Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #27

[SouthAussie]

These articles may also interest you iailwa if you were previously unaware but a warning, they are not easy reading (quite horrific in some cases):
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...r/news-story/e00d1be44cabb66b6dad0629b48e355c
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...y/news-story/9ca4201c0bbd0e6a7cd836b562a54a23

I'm not sure if your Australian link contains this, as I cannot open it and don't have any content of the article to google it. But I just want to add that the Daily Telegraph article states that Spedding's lawyer says he was cleared (of some of the historical charges) at the time, which is inaccurate .....

“Police have been informed the offences … were not pursued formally by police at the time of disclosure due to concerns as to the welfare of the victims, given their tender age,” a fact sheet said.
http://www.news.com.au/national/cri...g/news-story/2a8a51819720492213582b8d70dc61da

 

[sosocurious]

I'm not sure if your Australian link contains this, as I cannot open it and don't have any content of the article to google it. But I just want to add that the Daily Telegraph article states that Spedding's lawyer says he was cleared (of some of the historical charges) at the time, which is inaccurate .....

“Police have been informed the offences … were not pursued formally by police at the time of disclosure due to concerns as to the welfare of the victims, given their tender age,” a fact sheet said.
http://www.news.com.au/national/cri...g/news-story/2a8a51819720492213582b8d70dc61da

The mentioned article SA.

Bill Spedding had lived with child abuser
The Australian12:00AM June 18, 2015
DAN BOX
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...r/news-story/e00d1be44cabb66b6dad0629b48e355c

Prosecutor Rosa Sharma said Hillsley could not have committed the alleged offences as he had been sent to prison a few months earlier, after having his parole revoked.
“At the time (one of the sisters) disclosed what had occurred to her and said that it was Bill who had inflicted these injuries (Hillsley) was in jail,’’ Ms Sharma said.


Mr Spedding said the recent charges against his father had been dealt with in the past and said there was not enough evidence to charge him in 1987 or now.

"It will be proven in the facts and as the case comes to light it will all make sense …"

http://www.smh.com.au/national/will...n-bill-spedding-says-son-20150429-1mvs9b.html
William Tyrrell's abductor remains free as police focus on Bill Spedding, says son

Charges pending in Victoria. Trial approaching in NSW.

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[frogwell]

There is way more to those allegations to consider iailwa, believe it or not, and I suggest you start reading from June 2015 in these threads, just prior to BS being granted bail on appeal, and the many threads there after. Many arguments have ensued. As GJ said in the article or maybe it was the other guy, the truth is stranger than fiction.

Sorry to quote myself, what I mean to say is, atrocious crimes happened to these children, no doubt about it. From what I have read so far, I don't know who committed those crimes.

 

[Wexford]

I'm not sure if your Australian link contains this, as I cannot open it and don't have any content of the article to google it. But I just want to add that the Daily Telegraph article states that Spedding's lawyer says he was cleared (of some of the historical charges) at the time, which is inaccurate .....

“Police have been informed the offences … were not pursued formally by police at the time of disclosure due to concerns as to the welfare of the victims, given their tender age,” a fact sheet said.
http://www.news.com.au/national/cri...g/news-story/2a8a51819720492213582b8d70dc61da

Sorry SA, this was the headline:"Bill Spedding had lived with child abuser"

 

[Karinna]

Federal Court of Australia
10. He was released on parole on 19 December 1986. On 29 January 1987, following a report expressing grave concern about the respondent's inappropriate and potentially dangerous behaviour towards young girls, his parole was revoked and he was returned to prison to serve the remainder of his sentence. The respondent had been found in his place of employment on 21 January 1987 with a young girl locked in the toilet in the building. He was interviewed by the probation and parole officer. He stated that nothing had occurred and that everyone was over-reacting. He was interviewed the next day by a medical officer who was of the opinion that the respondent had some unresolved behavioural problems and that he was still focussing his sexual attention on girls of tender years, including his nieces with whom he had some regular contact at his parental home. He had been warned by his father not to take these children into a bedroom prior to the incident in the toilet.

11. While continuing his psychiatric outpatient treatment, he revealed to his doctor that he had taken clothing belonging to his niece which had been stored in a garage under his home unit block. He was later interviewed by the probation and parole officer and questioned about his intent. He stated "It is purely sexual, yes. I would probably have intercourse this time. I was angry at the family for thinking I was doing the wrong thing so I thought I would show them and actually do it".
http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/s...html?stem=0&synonyms=0&query=Jeffrey Hillsley

 

[iailwa]

I'm curious about the abandoned house in Batar Creek rd, near Stoney creek rd. Apparently there were noises heard here. But there were also noises heard at another abandoned home within 1/2 km from William's. I presume this latter one is the one that an elderly lady moved from - into a nursing home? I think i saw it pinned before and it's not far from #35 Benaroon, via dirt. Anyway, this other one on stoney creek rd - there's a house that appears inhabited just across the road. It could have been they who heard noises & reported them? So there's 2 reports of noise from 2 abandoned houses... If you know the area well, you'd presume these would be good hiding spots in the immediacy, especially if you wanted the victim alive, to share with your mate. Move from one to the other? Or just go to one? It's seems more convenient than waiting somewhere in the bush. I can only find reference to the stoney creek rd one here on WS, and it seems to come from a reliable source of local knowledge... any opinions?

 

[iailwa]

Federal Court of Australia
10. He was released on parole on 19 December 1986. On 29 January 1987, following a report expressing grave concern about the respondent's inappropriate and potentially dangerous behaviour towards young girls, his parole was revoked and he was returned to prison to serve the remainder of his sentence. The respondent had been found in his place of employment on 21 January 1987 with a young girl locked in the toilet in the building. He was interviewed by the probation and parole officer. He stated that nothing had occurred and that everyone was over-reacting. He was interviewed the next day by a medical officer who was of the opinion that the respondent had some unresolved behavioural problems and that he was still focussing his sexual attention on girls of tender years, including his nieces with whom he had some regular contact at his parental home. He had been warned by his father not to take these children into a bedroom prior to the incident in the toilet.

11. While continuing his psychiatric outpatient treatment, he revealed to his doctor that he had taken clothing belonging to his niece which had been stored in a garage under his home unit block. He was later interviewed by the probation and parole officer and questioned about his intent. He stated "It is purely sexual, yes. I would probably have intercourse this time. I was angry at the family for thinking I was doing the wrong thing so I thought I would show them and actually do it".
http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/s...html?stem=0&synonyms=0&query=Jeffrey Hillsley

I've been reading #14 and this topic came up a lot. I haven't had a chance to search but i wonder whether this sicko is still locked up?? I will have a look...

 

[iailwa]

I've been reading #14 and this topic came up a lot. I haven't had a chance to search but i wonder whether this sicko is still locked up?? I will have a look...

quoting my own Far out this man is scum!

Hillsley, 53, pleaded guilty to murder, four counts of aggravated sexual assault and kidnapping and will be eligible for parole on New Year's Eve, 2028, aged 77.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/pedophile-made-good-his-threat/2005/07/04/1120329388566.html

oops i don't think i can make this link work.

 

[Hbayne]

quoting my own Far out this man is scum!

Hillsley, 53, pleaded guilty to murder, four counts of aggravated sexual assault and kidnapping and will be eligible for parole on New Year's Eve, 2028, aged 77.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/pedophile-made-good-his-threat/2005/07/04/1120329388566.html

oops i don't think i can make this link work.

Yep a total *******. BS seems to keep very interesting company. Birds of a feather and all that .........

 

[Bohemian]

Listen to someone who knows:

Matthew Leveson's dad cautions pushing 'voyeuristic' petition on William Tyrrell's families
9news.com.au
By Mark Saunokonoko
12:01pm Sep 26, 2017

‘The father of dead Sydney man Matthew Leveson believes a petition demanding an immediate inquest into lost boy William Tyrrell is wrong.’

‘On Monday nine.com.au reported that the woman who successfully resisted a Supreme Court injunction that tried to block details about William’s disappearance was on the brink of delivering a petition to the NSW state coroner.

That petition, which has gathered almost 13,000 signatures, demanded a transparent inquest and gave reasons why "there is something very wrong with this case".

But Mark Leveson believes the public, however well intentioned, have no right trying to force an inquest upon William’s biological and foster families.

"It’s well and good the public being interested, and in some cases voyeuristic, in wanting to know what is going on," Leveson told nine.com.au.

"I’m not saying that an inquest is good or bad. I’m saying the decision should be up to Tyrrell’s parents not the public.

"It’s their son and their foster son and they should have all the say of what transpires."’

‘The William Tyrrell petition, organised by NSW woman Allana Smith and advocacy group Walking Warriors Australia, alludes to the case of murdered Queensland boy Daniel Morcombe.

Importantly, it was the families of Matthew and Daniel - not the public - who had personally pushed for those inquests, Leveson told nine.com.au.

"I have no doubt that sentiments and motivations [of the petition organisers] are quite honorable and to be admired but they need to think of the family," Leveson said.’

‘Allana Smith told nine.com.au on Monday that the NSW state coroner should launch a coronial inquest, despite the ongoing three-year investigation by NSW Police.

"It has been three years since William Tyrrell disappeared, and two years since the matter was referred to the NSW state coroner," Smith said.

"It is time."

The lead investigator into William's disappearance told nine.com.au on Monday that inquests are mandatory for missing persons' cases however they aren't generally held until police investigations had been concluded.

"Strike Force Rosann is following numerous lines of inquiry and at this stage an inquest would be premature," Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin said.

Walking Warriors Australia intends to deliver its petition to the NSW coroner in early October.’

Read more at:

http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...eveson-father-william-tyrrell-missing-inquest

 

[ozazure]

I think it might be too premature for an inquest. I remember with Bung's case, there was next to nothing in the media and then an article comes along that says they were reducing the taskforce assigned to her which was 12 full-time detectives. As far as my tracking of this case goes, we have no idea what resources are on it. The Morcombes knew what was and wasn't being done for Daniel to some extent and so could push the issue. As far as we know, both the bio and foster families may be very satisfied that everything is being done for William. An inquest could chuck a real spanner in the works.

 

[deugirtni]

Yep a total *******. BS seems to keep very interesting company. Birds of a feather and all that .........

How do you figure BS keeps Hillsley as interesting company? Birds of a feather and all that? Just wondering?

 

[Hbayne]

How do you figure BS keeps Hillsley as interesting company? Birds of a feather and all that? Just wondering?

Are you kidding me ?

 

[Hbayne]

Are you kidding me ?

Should I say kept

 

[deugirtni]

Originally Posted by deugirtni
How do you figure BS keeps Hillsley as interesting company? Birds of a feather and all that? Just wondering?

Are you kidding me ?

Not at all. As far as I was aware, BS had merely had the misfortune of marrying a woman whose sibling was this monster. How do you figure that is keeping interesting company? Do you take responsibility for the actions of all of your spouse's relatives or consider that you are birds of a feather by marriage?

 

[Hbayne]

Originally Posted by deugirtni
How do you figure BS keeps Hillsley as interesting company? Birds of a feather and all that? Just wondering?





Not at all. As far as I was aware, BS had merely had the misfortune of marrying a woman whose sibling was this monster. How do you figure that is keeping interesting company? Do you take responsibility for the actions of all of your spouse's relatives or consider that you are birds of a feather by marriage?

Poor MISFORTUNATE guy. I don't think so. Opportunist would be the the word I would use. IMOO of course .

 

[Karinna]

Originally Posted by deugirtni
How do you figure BS keeps Hillsley as interesting company? Birds of a feather and all that? Just wondering?





Not at all. As far as I was aware, BS had merely had the misfortune of marrying a woman whose sibling was this monster. How do you figure that is keeping interesting company? Do you take responsibility for the actions of all of your spouse's relatives or consider that you are birds of a feather by marriage?

I agree it does happen to people in families. Paedo's, murderers and god knows what else. I think it would be a question of when BS married his ex wife, and when did her deranged brother start committing his crimes, and how much contact there was with JH in that family between himself and his sister? Why was he allowed to live there and get warned about those children? Who would even let a monster like that live in their home?

 

[Karinna]

I think it might be too premature for an inquest. I remember with Bung's case, there was next to nothing in the media and then an article comes along that says they were reducing the taskforce assigned to her which was 12 full-time detectives. As far as my tracking of this case goes, we have no idea what resources are on it. The Morcombes knew what was and wasn't being done for Daniel to some extent and so could push the issue. As far as we know, both the bio and foster families may be very satisfied that everything is being done for William. An inquest could chuck a real spanner in the works.

Is there a set time frame for a CI do you know? I suppose it depends on any given case i would think?

 

[Karinna]

Aren't Coronial Inquests are good thing in bringing more light to a case and nailing a perp. when a case has nowhere else to go?

 

[Hbayne]

Originally Posted by deugirtni
How do you figure BS keeps Hillsley as interesting company? Birds of a feather and all that? Just wondering?





Not at all. As far as I was aware, BS had merely had the misfortune of marrying a woman whose sibling was this monster. How do you figure that is keeping interesting company? Do you take responsibility for the actions of all of your spouse's relatives or consider that you are birds of a feather by marriage?

Nope but if I was MS I sure would question the coincidence of the men in her husbands life over the years that he has connections with. A little light bulb would certainly be flickering.