Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #28

[they'll get you]

Tony Jones was out collecting scrap that day so I’m sure the cops checked out any dirt particles and plant matter on his car.


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[Karinna]

Wasn't that after Alanna Pearl Smith?

What's she got to do with it? It was a Supreme Court decision to reveal both WT and his sister were in foster care when he went missing, so a legal matter and doesn't justify the media circus surrounding that decision. That was all Ms. Smith was trying to do, not revealing all the ins & outs of the BP's lives, IMO.

 

[butterstick]

Wasn't that after Alanna Pearl Smith?

Thing is, if the media just needed someone to mention the bio mum as an excused to print her photo and a photo of her children..... then they could easily do so for foster..... since no doubt the names of these people are whirling around constantly in interviews and investigations.

The media can chose to expose what they want. Williams brothers have not been given the same protections.

 

[SouthAussie]

What's she got to do with it? It was a Supreme Court decision to reveal both WT and his sister were in foster care when he went missing, so a legal matter and doesn't justify the media circus surrounding that decision. That was all Ms. Smith was trying to do, not revealing all the ins & outs of the BP's lives, IMO.

Well, that sure backfired on her, didn't it? She should have kept her nose out of it. She opened the door, the Case Law was published, as it always is.

Just about everyone knew the foster status anyway. And it has not achieved anything.

 

[SouthAussie]

Thing is, if the media just needed someone to mention the bio mum as an excused to print her photo and a photo of her children..... then they could easily do so for foster..... since no doubt the names of these people are whirling around constantly in interviews and investigations.

The media can chose to expose what they want. Williams brothers have not been given the same protections.

I do get what you are saying ... but the door was opened, and the media swooped in. The door should never have been opened imo. At least they are pixelating the faces of William's brothers. As they should.

Same with Natalie Collins. She does not need to be revealing the sordid back story.

 

[Karinna]

Well, that sure backfired on her, didn't it? She should have kept her nose out of it. She opened the door, the Case Law was published, as it always is.

Just about everyone knew the foster status anyway. And it has not achieved anything.

I'm sorry but i don't agree. I think in cases like this if a child in state care comes to grief there should be full transparency on both sides of the coin.
The most important thing is finding the child, not hurting the feelings of adults. All IMO.

 

[SouthAussie]

I'm sorry but i don't agree. I think in cases like this if a child in state care comes to grief there should be full transparency on both sides of the coin.
The most important thing is finding the child, not hurting the feelings of adults. All IMO.

Then you can't be complaining about the exposure. I don't think you can have it both ways.

It is FaCS and the courts that you need to convince to reveal the foster parents names. Then that sets a prescedent to reveal every foster parents name. It is a big can of worms with more consequences than only little William.

 

[butterstick]

Pixelating a childs face is pretty useless when everyone around them know who the mum is now due to mass media publication. That's why the foster parents have been allowed to stay completely anonymous.

In any case I wish they all could keep their privacy. When there is a crime, innocent people suffer because the media swamps them. That's a hard reality for many people in these situations.

But that doesn't stop me feeling surprised no one is stepping forward to champion William more, regardless of all these concerns. SInce what is more important?

A whole heap of context on movements, indentities and details have been completely blacked out in this case. It's seems not iimpossible to me that someone out there could of helped if more information was out there, but now it's all too long ago.

 

[they'll get you]

That is the most far out, absurd theory I have heard, so far.

I have many reasons for saying that, but I am not going to discuss the foster parents. They have been cleared and we have been told many times to leave them alone.

We have also been informed by an experienced person - just pages back - that they had less than a 1% chance of losing custody of William ... or his sister.

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IMHO it’s the FF who hasn’t given up hope.
They did what they could at the time with their faces covered & stayed within the law.
THEY were the ones who got the media on board for their little one lost.

NC shrugs her shoulders and recons William is dead, done, gone, finished and everyone else is too wrapped up in their own screwed up lives.
Dear bios, would it really hurt for one weekend to get a hold of the media and anyone else who cares to have a walk for William again?
If you care then others will too. People have short memories.

CREATE ENTHUSIASM, SHOW SOME CARE?

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[SouthAussie]

IMHO it’s the FF who hasn’t given up hope.
They did what they could at the time with their faces covered & stayed within the law.
THEY were the ones who got the media on board for their little one lost.

NC shrugs her shoulders and recons William is dead, done, gone, finished and everyone else is too wrapped up in their own screwed up lives.
Dear bios, would it really hurt for one weekend to get a hold of the media and anyone else who cares to have a walk for William again?
If you care then others will too. People have short memories.

CREATE ENTHUSIASM, SHOW SOME CARE?

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Exacatamundo. They are in the public eye now. Generate some interest. Keep up the public awareness. Be a Morcombe family.

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[SouthAussie]

Don't forget little WIlliam's little brothers in all this.

I haven't forgotten any of the little children, at all. I wish they were all protected from this.

That is why I feel the way I do about Alanna Pearl Smith and Natalie Collins. They didn't think this through all the way. Someone did not consider the media's full rights and their methods of sensationalising to increase readership and make more money.

 

[they'll get you]

The media would not dare post a photo of foster mother with child, as they did to bio mum. That's how it is.

The reporters and their employers would have had huge fines and possibly jailed. They knew it and ran scared.




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[Karinna]

Then you can't be complaining about the exposure. I don't think you can have it both ways.

It is FaCS and the courts that you need to convince to reveal the foster parents names. Then that sets a prescedent to reveal every foster parents name. It is a big can of worms with more consequences than only little William.

Well it certainly has been biased in WT's case. Not saying every Foster parent should be revealed, only in some of these cases where a child has come to harm, or is gone whereabouts unknown. I imagine most children in care are fine until we hear that something bad has happened to them, that's all.

 

[they'll get you]

OT Just harmless, victims, falsely accused . . .

‘A man wanted over alleged child sex offences has been shot dead after stabbing a senior police detective in the beer garden of the Maroubra Junction Hotel in Sydney's south-east.’

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-...bing-police-officer-near-maroubra-pub/9365506

Yeah, right. Evil.

I hope the cop is OK.


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[they'll get you]

What's she got to do with it? It was a Supreme Court decision to reveal both WT and his sister were in foster care when he went missing, so a legal matter and doesn't justify the media circus surrounding that decision. That was all Ms. Smith was trying to do, not revealing all the ins & outs of the BP's lives, IMO.

Why do I taste vinegar?


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[Karinna]

Exacatamundo. They are in the public eye now. Generate some interest. Keep up the public awareness. Be a Morcombe family.

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The FP's in this case are nothing like the Morecombe's IMO. They had a very big media presence and were very proactive with it all, until Justice for their son was finally served.

 

[SouthAussie]

Well it certainly has been biased in WT's case. Not saying every Foster parent should be revealed, only in some of these cases where a child has come to harm, or is gone whereabouts unknown. I imagine most children in care are fine until we hear that something bad has happened to them, that's all.

I know that is not what you are saying. But it would set a prescedent. That is what I mean by you can't have it both ways. You either do it, or you don't do it. Sometimes choices have to be made. You expose people to the media, but you can't expose the foster parents, no matter what ... because they have another foster child in their care.

As it is, a prescedent is now set to reveal that a child is a foster child - should anyone want to reveal that in the future - and it will have to be adjudicated and wrap up more of our courts time and money. Jam them up a bit more than they already are. And for what? It achieved nothing.

People really need to start thinking further than the nose in front of their face. And that is what Alanna Pearl Smith should have done imo.

 

[Bohemian]

I hope the cop is OK.


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All three. Time will tell. Hopefully, they will be getting the help they need. Bless them x

 

[they'll get you]

Exacatamundo. They are in the public eye now. Generate some interest. Keep up the public awareness. Be a Morcombe family.

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[SouthAussie]

The FP's in this case are nothing like the Morecombe's IMO. They had a very big media presence and were very proactive with it all, until Justice for their son was finally served.

Are you deliberately not comprehending what I am saying? The bios now have a media presence. William is their biological son/grandson. They could be proactive, if they chose to do so.