Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #29

[sosocurious]

the forster mother stated (will look for it when I have a sec...cant back it up for certainty but I'm pretty sure) the trip to kendall was spontaneous.
so if forster grandpa new days before its not really spontaneous is it .
i cant back it up atm though. ill get back to it tonight.
there is so much contradiction everywhere. hard to decipher!

P: Can you give a bit of background, what was he doing?
M: We’d gone up to visit Mum and Dad, well Mum because Dad had passed away, I keep calling it Mum and Dad’s, we’d gone to visit, it was a surprise visit.
D: We left early.

M: We left early the night before, surprised them [the kids], surprised Nanna.
P: Can you tell us what William was doing at his Nanna’s place?

P: And it was a surprise visit to Nanna’s?
M: Yeah we’d actually planned to go on the Friday, but we ended up the Thursday, leaving earlier, and it was a surprise for Mum and it was a surprise for the kids to go before, because they love going to Nanna’s, yeah it was a complete surprise.

P: So the kids had no idea either?
M: None, none, they were over the moon, we told them in the car once we picked them up.
D: They were excited.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/2...full-transcript-from-william-tyrrells-parents

Sounds as though it was planned for Friday and Thursday departure was spontaneous.

 

[Bohemian]

the forster mother stated (will look for it when I have a sec...cant back it up for certainty but I'm pretty sure) the trip to kendall was spontaneous.
so if forster grandpa new days before its not really spontaneous is it .
i cant back it up atm though. ill get back to it tonight.
there is so much contradiction everywhere. hard to decipher!

We’ll leave it until then. We have grappled with seeming inconsistencies, over and over again. I tend to believe what I hear from first person interviews, rather than what I read that is without a named source in the print media. Well, I try hard to, anyway.

 

[Hbayne]

the forster mother stated (will look for it when I have a sec...cant back it up for certainty but I'm pretty sure) the trip to kendall was spontaneous.
so if forster grandpa new days before its not really spontaneous is it .
i cant back it up atm though. ill get back to it tonight.
there is so much contradiction everywhere. hard to decipher!

Foster *
No foster grandpa

 

[sosocurious]

Also one of the cars (the grey sedan, I presume) matched PB’s:

‘They [AJ & PB] both lived in the Kendall area and had been driving vehicles that matched the description of two cars - a grey sedan and a white station wagon - that had been seen driving near the Tyrell house around the time he was snatched.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...bducting-missing-toddler-William-Tyrrell.html
28 Feb 2016


On the cars from DCI Jubelin’s most recent presser:

(20:50) R:

'What about, are the cars still of interest?'

(20:55) GJ:

'We're still looking at the cars. From the last time we put the appeals out for the cars, we received a lot of information and that's a line of inquiry that we're following up. As I said, it is unusual for an active investigation to go into how we're approaching it but, because of the uniqueness of the investigation and the public' interest, we prioritise our lines of inquiry.

So we'll have a person of interest and we'll focus on that person of interest, we'll focus on the cars and we've got lines of inquiry going all over the place. We've got our dedicated Strike Force but we've also got access to all other investigators across the state if we need them.

AJ’s car has been eliminated:

(21:31) R:

'There was a car seized, at one point, matching the description of the graphics that were put out there. Can you say that [unintelligible] been ruled out?’

(21:42) GJ:

'I can only say it's been eliminated.'

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/e...-disappearance-of-William-Tyrrell-(continued)
12 September 2017

Did we ever learn if that 3rd car of BS's was returned?

 

[Bohemian]

Did we ever learn if that 3rd car of BS's was returned?

Not that I recall. Only that the seized white station wagon (AJ’s) has been eliminated. I recall an onthread discussion about the status of the cars we held previously though. The only other car that has been mentioned in MSM was PB’s, said (by him?) to be in Queensland (with his son?) at the time of William’s disappearance IIRC. Subsequently wrecked/unrecoverable (also IIRC). Please soso can you find the links if available? My brain is tired.

 

[sosocurious]

Not that I recall. Only that the seized white station wagon (AJ’s) has been eliminated. I recall an onthread discussion about the status of the cars we held previously though. The only other car that has been mentioned in MSM was PB’s, said (by him?) to be in Queensland (with his son?) at the time of William’s disappearance IIRC. Subsequently wrecked/unrecoverable (also IIRC). Please soso can you find the links if available? My brain is tired.

Puggles post 742 thread 20

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new...d22318a662628a
Pharaphrase
Bickford said he went out that day somewhere. My friends would have verified that to police. I can't remember exactly where, it was the westport club - I think.
Bickford claims that the police had told him and his wife that he was no longer a POI - this hasn't been confirmed by police though.
He said at the time of Williams disappearance he was driving a white commodore and that his son owned a grey Holden Astra sedan (grey or silver sedan was seen parked in Benaroon Dr, the day William went missing) . Tony Bickford claims his son was in Brisbane with his (sons) car at the time William went missing. That car has since been scrapped.

 

[k-mac]

Foster *
No foster grandpa

yes sorry typo
I was rushing!
meant grandma.

thanks so much sosocurious that is the convo I was referring to.
that clears that up.
she meant going a day earlier

 

[Bohemian]

Puggles post 742 thread 20

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new...d22318a662628a
Pharaphrase
Bickford said he went out that day somewhere. My friends would have verified that to police. I can't remember exactly where, it was the westport club - I think.
Bickford claims that the police had told him and his wife that he was no longer a POI - this hasn't been confirmed by police though.
He said at the time of Williams disappearance he was driving a white commodore and that his son owned a grey Holden Astra sedan (grey or silver sedan was seen parked in Benaroon Dr, the day William went missing) . Tony Bickford claims his son was in Brisbane with his (sons) car at the time William went missing. That car has since been scrapped.

Thanks soso. Good to know where the car is. Moving on. Link is no longer working and I don’t think we can sleuth what’s said about family members of POI mentioned in MSM. Not sure. Have alerted Mod to advise.

 

[Unit45]

From the reading i did last night over earlier threads, not all but some.

Something just keeps bringing me back to BS.

I wonder if he wasnt alone, even though he was supposed to be elsewhere.

Maybe others under the scope as mentioned.

 

[Bohemian]

From the reading i did last night over earlier threads, not all but some.

Something just keeps bringing me back to BS.

I wonder if he wasnt alone, even though he was supposed to be elsewhere.

Maybe others under the scope as mentioned.

Yes, I think many of us suspect BS and AJ may have been together that day. What they were doing is yet to be revealed. Perhaps after the upcoming proceedings in NSW and Victoria are complete, we may find out more. Or not, as the case may be.

 

[frogwell]

‘Listen’:

(11:53) R:

'Are the majority of those suspects sex offenders?'

(11:58) GJ:

'I think we need to keep an open mind in regards to this. There's an assumption right from the start, that a three year old child's been abducted that may, or may not, be the sexual predator. We're keeping an open mind to that. I can't break down specifically how many persons of interest are on the basis of suspicion attached to their sexual interests in children but I do want to stress this is a unique investigation. I'm very mindful that we've looked at all possibilities and I keep an open mind to it.

I hear stories from overseas of situations where children have disappeared for decades and the turned up in circumstances. I also hear stories of incidents have occurred that are by accident and been covered up and then revealed. So, we are keeping an open mind to it and our focus is not just on sex offenders or, let's break it down; paedophiles. We're not just looking at that aspect of it.

And we're also mindful that our research tells us that the child, at the age of three, doesn't necessarily fit into the parameters of childless couples where young babies have been abducted. It's that unique nature of this investigation that's making this particularly trying.'‘

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/e...e-of-William-Tyrrell-7-News-12-September-2017

DCI Jubelin knows. We don’t. For William’s sake, listen and let DCI Jubelin do his job. Don’t let us be another ‘peripheral distraction’.

I listened carefully and felt more satisfied with the last presser.

BUBM

 

[frogwell]

Exactly what is that? Please state who his statement is in reference to. This thread is not an ongoing flame war. It is about a child’s life.

There are several posts today that have been put up that I have an opinion or link for. Posts that are either inaccurate as far as MSM has reported or as in regards to the last post, the sentence and the rest of GJ's presser has really interesting points. The one I bolded being one of them. I have heaps of theories and am fluid, but the 1st point in all of this is, was WT abducted?

http://www.news.com.au/national/wil...d/news-story/74d2ce5959dda6009acbe91b6294fac2

Mother Karlie Tyrrell has been unable to talk publicly about the apparent abduction of her child for years because of child protection laws that prohibit identifying a child in foster care.

Above is one of heaps of examples, using the adjective "apparent". The abduction is a theory at this stage as well, with the information the police have. MOO

 

[Bohemian]

I don't know what you are on about. There are several posts today that have been put up that I have an opinion or link for. Things that are either inaccurate as far as MSM has reported or as in regards to the last post, the sentence and the rest of GJ's presser has really interesting points. The one I bolded being one of them. I have heaps of theories and am as fluid as you, but the 1st point in all of this is, was WT abducted?

http://www.news.com.au/national/wil...d/news-story/74d2ce5959dda6009acbe91b6294fac2

Mother Karlie Tyrrell has been unable to talk publicly about the apparent abduction of her child for years because of child protection laws that prohibit identifying a child in foster care.

Above is one of heaps of examples, using the adjective "apparent". The abduction is a theory at this stage as well, with the information the police have. MOO

One word? We don’t know the circumstances of William’s disappearance so how would Karlie? Who knows what she is/was thinking? Besides that is not a direct quote from her.

We know WS’ TOS regarding victims and William’s foster parents and biological parents are victims.

Other people’s behaviour is no excuse for our own. I suggest, as I have a number of times to other posters on this thread that, if they think a post requires moderation to contact a Moderator.

And, I am personally no longer in the mood to indulge plausible deniability.

 

[frogwell]

William Tyrrell: Paedophiles 'met' the day toddler vanished, both deny ...
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/.../a41002be975f8c25811381d3eac78b75
Feb 24, 2016 - The Daily Telegraph understands Bickford was driving a grey sedan at the time of William's disappearance, and Jones was driving a white station wagon. ...

link doesn't work

 

[frogwell]

William Tyrrell: Police seek information on two cars | audio, video | Port ...
www.portnews.com.au/.../william-tyrrell-police-seek-information-on-two-cars-audio-vid...
Sep 7, 2015 - Detectives investigating the suspected abduction of toddler, William Tyrrell, are seeking the public's help to identify several vehicles either parked near or ... from the State Crime Command Homicide Squad and the Mid North Coast Local Area Command, is continuing to investigate his apparent abduction.

I can keep going

 

[Unit45]

Both links dont work.

Is there other information elsewhere to suggest two Paedophiles met on that day?

Though that still proves nothing.

 

[sosocurious]

William Tyrrell: Paedophiles 'met' the day toddler vanished, both deny ...
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/.../a41002be975f8c25811381d3eac78b75
Feb 24, 2016 - The Daily Telegraph understands Bickford was driving a grey sedan at the time of William's disappearance, and Jones was driving a white station wagon. ...

link doesn't work

from google.

William Tyrrell: Paedophile Paul Bickford denies being involved in ...
www.heraldsun.com.au/.../william...paul-bickford.../928849a6a6135237b777ca8d545f6...
Feb 25, 2016 - At the time William went missing Tony Jones was driving an old white station wagon — later towed for forensic examination. Bickford said at the time he owned a white Holden Commodore and his son had a grey Holden Astra sedan but he said his son was in Brisbane with the car. The Astra has since been ...


Bickford claims he owned a white Commodore and his son had a grey sedan which was in Brisbane.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/3092754...ing-boy-william-tyrrell-is-causing-him-grief/

 

[frogwell]

Both links dont work.

Is there other information elsewhere to suggest two Paedophiles met on that day?

Though that still proves nothing.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-William-Tyrrell-met-day-went-missing.html

You could try this link

 

[Bohemian]

@frogwell So, if not an abduction; what happened to William?

 

[Unit45]

If you look at the recent case in the USA where there was two adults holding a whole group of younger people.

For someone to hide a small boy its entirely possible.