Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #29

[Unit45]

Boh, i got about 10 more looking at this now. A few different countries hopefully they can help.

 

[Karinna]

Have the authorities ever done an age progressed picture of WT? I think in 3 going on 4 years WT would have changed in his appearance. What is he this year? 7 years old?

 

[Violet77]

Have the authorities ever done an age progressed picture of WT? I think in 3 going on 4 years WT would have changed in his appearance. What is he this year? 7 years old?

There was two made using different photos

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[Unit45]

They did this on a similar case over in the usa which i have been following,
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?26-CT-Bianca-Lebron-10-Bridgeport-7-Nov-2001
Bianca Elaine Lebron
Vital Statistics at Time of Disappearance


Missing Since: November 7, 2001 from Bridgeport, Connecticut
Classification: Non-Family Abduction
Date Of Birth: June 26, 1991
Age: 10 years old
Height and Weight: 4'11; 115 pounds
Distinguishing Characteristics: Brown hair; hazel eyes. Lebron has a birthmark on her forehead. Some agencies may spell her last name "LeBron."
Details of Disappearance here
(w/ sketch & pic of possible van)

 

[Violet77]

I don't have a theory really, just interested to hear what everyone else thinks about them.
I think it is strange that they withheld the info for so long if they really did believe that they held some connection to where little William ended up.
However, a white station wagon has been spotted in the same area long after William vanished, so maybe it was all strategic.I would think that the speeding 4WD would be more interesting to police, but they seemed to really focus on the two parked in the street.

 

[Unit45]

I know this case is form 2014, but though i had seen it here i didnt really look at it. So i only really know some brief details.

Since yesterday a couple of people have given me some of the information, but i will have to go back and read through what the forum has found and discussed. Sometimes your first intuition is the one to be trusted.

 

[SouthAussie]

I don't have a theory really, just interested to hear what everyone else thinks about them.
I think it is strange that they withheld the info for so long if they really did believe that they held some connection to where little William ended up.
However, a white station wagon has been spotted in the same area long after William vanished, so maybe it was all strategic.I would think that the speeding 4WD would be more interesting to police, but they seemed to really focus on the two parked in the street.

My own personal theory is that they had nothing to do with it. I think they were likely visitors to the creepy house across the road. I think it was all another part of a pressure tactic. Anthony Jones knows Spedding, and is known to have abused a young child/ren, as Spedding is alleged to have done.
I think they hauled his car away 'in case' it was one of the cars seen on the street. I think they were angling for Jones to spill what he knows, if he knew anything - which I don't think he does.

It will also show a good criminal defence lawyer, and judge, that they were looking at other people, besides Spedding.

Jones, who lived near Bill Spedding ....
http://www.news.com.au/national/cri...y/news-story/a793c87d9162d7b7ddacc7ebb3da0028

THE only man named by police as a person of interest in William Tyrell’s disappearance lived across the road from the family of convicted paedophile Anthony Jones in their shared home town of Wellington.
Tradesman Bill Spedding also had business dealings with Jones’s daughter, selling her a washing machine in the western NSW town.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...r/news-story/b04682d185b7f442aa472267d9f0a389

The speeding 4WD (imo) could be a person from the area. We don't know how many people use that dirt track at the end of the road, to access the forest, for various reasons ... a party place, meeting up with people, bird watching, 4WD hooning, whatever.

I know others have different opinions though, and I hope they can weigh in here and give you those.

 

[Karinna]

There was two made using different photos

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Thankyou for posting that up. So in this William is age progressed to age 5 by that.
I guess just in case people are still looking for an alive William. If he is still alive which is dubious, but i guess it's possible somehow, even though statistics don't show that in missing/abducted very young child cases.

 

[Karinna]

I'm not sure i think a vehicle was involved in WT being missing simply for the fact that the FM stated it was all so quiet and she heard nothing.
She only remembered about the two vehicles parked across the street that night and then reported about it.
I would think a car sound in that very quiet isolated area/street where FGM lived at the time would of been noticed IMO.

 

[Bohemian]

Thanks for your thoughts on the cars’ significance — or not, as the case may be.

 

[Unit45]

I'm not sure i think a vehicle was involved in WT being missing simply for the fact that the FM stated it was all so quiet and she heard nothing.
She only remembered about the two vehicles parked across the street that night and then reported about it.
I would think a car sound in that very quiet isolated area/street where FGM lived at the time would of been noticed IMO.

In that respect it could be possible he left with someone he knew. By foot to another location close by..

 

[Lou Lou]

In that respect it could be possible he left with someone he knew. By foot to another location close by..

I think the police dogs would have probably picked up his scent if this was the case?

 

[Bohemian]

In that respect it could be possible he left with someone he knew. By foot to another location close by..

Carried? Therefore no trail for ground-tracking dogs to follow.

 

[Unit45]

Maybe so on both counts, but how long after did the dogs do their work?

 

[Bohemian]

Maybe so on both counts, but how long after did the dogs do their work?

Hours maybe? May have had to come from Sydney. SA or soso will have links.

 

[Lou Lou]

Carried? Therefore no scent trail for ground-tracking dogs to follow.

Maybe a "science minded person" could clarify...but I'm thinkin' we drop dna with every movement..? Minuscule droplets of skin, hair etc?
Would the dogs still be able to sense if a scent was carried away?

Interesting hypothesis...William wanders away...hiding from sister..."Hi lil fulla, come in, want a drink, come get this and give to Nan for me..."

 

[kiwi50]

BS is my only suspect based on our limited information, but I’d sure like to know more about the creepy house over the road. There is something very odd about it .

 

[Unit45]

Maybe a "science minded person" could clarify...but I'm thinkin' we drop dna with every movement..? Minuscule droplets of skin, hair etc?
Would the dogs still be able to sense if a scent was carried away?

Interesting hypothesis...William wanders away...hiding from sister..."Hi lil fulla, come in, want a drink, come get this and give to Nan for me..."

Exactly right there, but we dont really know how it happened

Would there not be William' s DNA on the property anyway?

If the dogs are trained to be searching for flesh decomposing?

What are the police dogs trained for, scents?

 

[Karinna]

Maybe a "science minded person" could clarify...but I'm thinkin' we drop dna with every movement..? Minuscule droplets of skin, hair etc?
Would the dogs still be able to sense if a scent was carried away?

Interesting hypothesis...William wanders away...hiding from sister..."Hi lil fulla, come in, want a drink, come get this and give to Nan for me..."

I found this article in reference to your question
(quote)

Introduction

Searching for a person lost in the bush involves gathering information (lost person data, witness reports, clues, weather forecasts, etc.) and then acquiring and applying appropriate resources (ground searchers, helicopters, dogs, etc.) to specific areas within the search boundaries. Trained search and rescue dogs with suitably equipped and experienced handlers can be a valuable supplement to other search resources. Effective deployment however requires an understanding of how search dogs work, their strengths and their limitations.
How air-scenting dogs work

All humans constantly emit microscopic particles bearing human scent. By the millions, these particles become airborne and can be carried by the wind for considerable distances. Airborne scent is concentrated near its source, follows the air currents, and becomes more dilute the further it travels. An air scenting SAR dog is especially trained to locate the scent of any human in a specific area and close in on the source of the scent, and can do so from hundreds of metres away, in heavy bush or in the dark. SAR dogs are not restricted to following the missing person's track and can search long after the track is obliterated, zeroing in on where the person is now, regardless of how they got there.
http://www.vsrda.org/about-vsrda/using-air-scent-dogs

 

[Karinna]

Exactly right there, but we dont really know how it happened

Would there not be William' s DNA on the property anyway?

BBM, Yes if WT was there for a while the dog/s should of been able to pick up his scent to wherever they could detect it, as to where he had been around the home and maybe further, if they were Air scenting dogs.