Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #29

[sosocurious]

Wouldn't that depend on the individual child though? Also the 5 yr. old age progressed picture is probably different at this point in time too because WT would be going on for 7 years old this year wouldn't he? And if his birthday was later on in the year when he went missing? he would be going on for 8 years old this year?
I guess they would never really know the accuracy of the age progressed picture unless they end up finding the child at around the same time of what the progressed picture looks like, IMO.

:dunno: not an expert.
Born 26 June 2011.

Maybe another will be released when he is 7 years.
Lets hope all is solved and William is found before that though .... fingers crossed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_William_Tyrrell

 

[Bohemian]

:dunno: not an expert.
Born 26 June 2011.

Maybe another will be released when he is 7 years.
Lets hope all is solved and William is found before that though .... fingers crossed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_William_Tyrrell

Me either but Dr Susan Hayes is:

https://cas.uow.edu.au/members/UOW121414.html

Yes, let’s hope there is no need for another age-progressed image of William. Hopefully he will soon be back in the arms of all of those people who truly love him.

 

[SouthAussie]

If William is alive, I think it would be much as Whàngarei said ... William would look much different to his age-progressed photo. His hair would be dyed a different colour and in a different style, perhaps stress or food intake making his cheeks and face look different. People could probably pass him by on the street and not realise it was him.

It could take a very trained eye - or his parents - to even know it was him.

I wonder if William himself would even remember that he is William any more.

Whether William is alive or not, that may be why police have not released an age-progressed photo themselves.

Dr Susan Hayes - who did the Ch7 age-progression - is a forensic anthropologist who has worked with the police before.

 

[Bohemian]

If William is alive, I think it would be much as Whàngarei said ... William would look much different to his age-progressed photo. His hair would be dyed a different colour and in a different style, perhaps stress or food intake making his cheeks and face look different. People could probably pass him by on the street and not realise it was him.

It could take a very trained eye - or his parents - to even know it was him.

I wonder if William himself would even remember that he is William any more.

Whether William is alive or not, that may be why police have not released an age-progressed photo themselves.

Dr Susan Hayes - who did the Ch7 age-progression - is a forensic anthropologist who has worked with the police before.

What about facial recognition software?

 

[Bohemian]

(Very OT). Just a bit of levity:

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...-people-charged-over-47-missing-boxes-of-Lego

 

[SouthAussie]

What about facial recognition software?

I thought that age-progression is so the public may recognise him in every day life.

 

[Bohemian]

I thought that age-progression is so the public may recognise him in every day life.

Yes but, as we all know, facial recognition softeare is in use all over the world, in airports for example. I don’t know much about it but I think it works on measurement, rather than familiarity. Just thinking about other possible methods of identifying people.

 

[Wexford]

The story MS gave about that spiderman toy being in the car just sounds like a whole lot of bull**** in my opinion.

Hmm not the first time I have thought that about things that have come out of her mouth.

 

[SouthAussie]

Yes but, as we all know, facial recognition softeare is in use all over the world, in airports for example. I don’t know much about it but I think it works on measurement, rather than familiarity.

Australia will not be in a position to include facial recognition software with its passport scanners till 2020. Domestic travellers will not be subjected to the software.

Realistically, I don't believe William will be recognised by the public through any age-progressed photo, at this point in time. And we don't know if he has any distinct visible birthmarks, he doesn't have a fleck in his eye as Maddie McCann has. It may be very difficult to recognise him.

I think if he is discovered somewhere among the general population, it will be due to a very alert neighbour or family member wondering where this child came from, why isn't he in school, why isn't he allowed to play alone with other children. Things like that.

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[Bohemian]

Australia will not be in a position to include facial recognition software with its passport scanners till 2020. Domestic travellers will not be subjected to the software.

Realistically, I don't believe William will be recognised by the public through any age-progressed photo, at this point in time. And we don't know if he has any distinct visible birthmarks, he doesn't have a fleck in his eye as Maddie McCann has. It may be very difficult to recognise him.

I think if he is discovered somewhere among the general population, it will be due to a very alert neighbour or family member wondering where this child came from, why isn't he in school, why isn't he allowed to play alonne with other children. Things like that.

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Could you give me a link to that information please SA? I think I’d find it interesting.

Yes, there are lots of cons but there are pros too, I think.

 

[SouthAussie]

Could you give me a link to that information please SA? I think I’d find it interesting.

Yes, there are lots of cons but there are pros too, I think.

"Immigration wants to run an initial trial at Canberra Airport in late 2017 and finish the roll-out by mid 2019.

Using facial recognition technology, passengers known to Immigration will be able to self-process their border entry without a passport check."

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/nat...ssport-scans-at-airports-20170726-gxjd5v.html

 

[Bohemian]

"Immigration wants to run an initial trial at Canberra Airport in late 2017 and finish the roll-out by mid 2019.

Using facial recognition technology, passengers known to Immigration will be able to self-process their border entry without a passport check."

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/nat...ssport-scans-at-airports-20170726-gxjd5v.html

Thanks SA x

 

[k-mac]

The sobs of William's foster mum just broke my heart, in the ACA interview, when she was thinking about what may have happened to him. :cry:

I watched that recently and I had the opposite reaction.
listening to her sobbing one would assume she was crying hysterically I wasn't watching the first time I was listening I caught a glimpse of her face (which only shows the bottom half) and realised it was dry.
so I watched it again and was a bit disturbed to feel like it was a bit of a performance.
:thinking:
the information released and the direction the investigators are trying to push its no wonder this case hasn't been solved.

 

[SouthAussie]

I watched that recently and I had the opposite reaction.
listening to her sobbing one would assume she was crying hysterically I wasn't watching the first time I was listening I caught a glimpse of her face (which only shows the bottom half) and realised it was dry.
so I watched it again and was a bit disturbed to feel like it was a bit of a performance.
:thinking:
the information released and the direction the investigators are trying to push its no wonder this case hasn't been solved.

BBM


What direction is that, k-mac?

Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin said that the police taskforce investigating William’s disappearance was “keeping an open mind” to all possibilities, but the focus is still primarily on high-priority persons of interest.

“I keep an open mind to it. I hear stories from overseas, of situations where children have disappeared for decades then turned up in circumstances.

“I also hear stories of situations where instances have occurred by accident that have been covered up and then revealed. So, we are keeping an open mind to it, and our focus is not just sex offenders.”

https://tenplay.com.au/news/nationa...ormation-about-william-tyrrells-disappearance

 

[k-mac]

BBM


What direction is that, k-mac?

look for clarity I'm not implying forster family are involved.
just think its not right the direction the investigators are pushing to the public with the information they have released.
I think until its solved all connections to William should be scrutinized.
tunnel vision is investigative nemesis.

 

[Seabreeze1]

look for clarity I'm not implying forster family are involved.
just think its not right the direction the investigators are pushing to the public with the information they have released.
I think until its solved all connections to William should be scrutinized.
tunnel vision is investigative nemesis.

I agree.

 

[SouthAussie]

look for clarity I'm not implying forster family are involved.
just think its not right the direction the investigators are pushing to the public with the information they have released.
I think until its solved all connections to William should be scrutinized.
tunnel vision is investigative nemesis.

Yes, I see your point. Perhaps all connections are being scrutinized? I think that just because the detectives have stated that all parents have been cleared, it may not mean they are not being/haven't been heavily scrutinized imo.
For all we know, they may be being monitored right now, may have been monitored all along. "Covert and overt operations".

Sometimes that is said so that they are not harrassed. Sometimes it is said as a strategic thing. Sometimes it is said because it is the truth. We just don't know. We know so very little.


... combined with both covert and overt operations to find out what happened to William ...
https://www.camdencourier.com.au/story/4249489/tyrrell-reward-boosts-strike-force-response/

 

[Bohemian]

Yes, I see your point. Perhaps all connections are being scrutinized? I think that just because the detectives have stated that all parents have been cleared, it may not mean they are not being/haven't been heavily scrutinized imo.
For all we know, they may be being monitored right now, may have been monitored all along. "Covert and overt operations".

Sometimes that is said so that they are not harrassed. Sometimes it is said as a strategic thing. Sometimes it is said because it is the truth. We just don't know. We know so very little.


... combined with both covert and overt operations to find out what happened to William ...
https://www.camdencourier.com.au/story/4249489/tyrrell-reward-boosts-strike-force-response/

Any of the situations listed above may be true or false. As you say, we know so very little. But that’s OK, we don’t have to.

We just have to remember that, as it stands, William’s biological and foster parents have been cleared from the investigation and that Bill Spedding is the sole person of interest in relation to William’s disappearance.

 

[Wexford]

I watched that recently and I had the opposite reaction.
listening to her sobbing one would assume she was crying hysterically I wasn't watching the first time I was listening I caught a glimpse of her face (which only shows the bottom half) and realised it was dry.
so I watched it again and was a bit disturbed to feel like it was a bit of a performance.
:thinking:
the information released and the direction the investigators are trying to push its no wonder this case hasn't been solved.

BBM I agree with what you say K-Mac although I am cautious of ever making much of a judgement as I also remember very well what they said about Lindy Chamberlain too.

 

[Karinna]

Any of the situations listed above may be true or false. As you say, we know so very little. But that’s OK, we don’t have to.

We just have to remember that, as it stands, William’s biological and foster parents have been cleared from the investigation and that Bill Spedding is the sole person of interest in relation to William’s disappearance.

BBM, There have been hundreds of POI's in the Tyrrell case from what LE have stated, and BS was the suspect they looked at thoroughly because he had dealings with the FGM days before WT went missing because she called him to repair her washing machine.
And then GJ took him to task over the historical SA case from approx. 30 yrs. prior.
And we don't know how other POI's have panned out in this investigation because we are not privy to LE's information.