Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #34

[frogwell]

Hi everyone. Long time lurker posting for the first time.



There is a house surrounded by forest not far from this house that gets my hinky meter going. I can't see a driveway. Has anyone looked into this before?

If you use streetview, you will find a vehichle entrance where there is a drain on the side of the road. It's covered in bush material and not very discernable.

 

[Hbayne]

Spedding will be stacking his Dacks right now

 

[frogwell]

When I saw the pics, my thought was: Media precautionary took them ....

same. Which got me thinking recently about who from the town has been interviewed repeatedly or had their opinion sought by the media and then having a closer look at them ...... again

 

[JLZ]

For interest, Kendall State Forest is 3.5km^2. Measured on Sixmaps. Just considering whether there might have been a tip naming a specific property/region.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

It upsets me that NC is afforded the titles “distraught Nan” “William’s biological Grandma” etc while his Mother, Father & Grandmother have FOSTER slapped in front of theirs as if they were just strangers providing a service of care for him, they were the only real family he knew (I know he had infrequent visits with the bios still) you can see how dearly loved he was in all the photos & obviously still is. I believe this case gets the publicity & funding it does, solely because the people who were raising him have fought just as hard as the Morcombes did, but behind the all the red tape, out of the public eye.
I feel for the bio parents, I don’t doubt that they are hurting, but it is very obvious which set of parents put the children first, had their lives structured for them & their needs.
I hope whatever the outcome of this case, the people he saw as his Mother & Father are the first to know, the ones to make any funeral arrangements, or if by some miracle little William is still alive & found, I hope they are the ones who get to be there for him.
Sorry for the rant, all the new attention & hopes that this case may actually see an end has certainly delivered some mixed feelings for all of us I’m sure.

I want to know, if reading something, whether the bio or foster family is meant. Otherwise I'm loosing it.

 

[frogwell]

I have never heard opinions or caught the names of the owners of either house at the end of Benaroon Dr, at 51 and 52 who live right next to the bush track. I expect number 43 are feeling the close presence of the police day after day at present.

 

[sosocurious]

I have never heard opinions or caught the names of the owners of either house at the end of Benaroon Dr, at 51 and 52 who live right next to the bush track. I expect number 43 are feeling the close presence of the police day after day at present.

Reverse lookup for one at least.

 

[SouthAussie]

Not a lot about the search today, due to all articles referencing Natalie Collins, I think.

Just a bit I could find from this morning.


"Dozens of SES volunteers and members of the Rural Fire Service arrived at the Benaroon Drive site yesterday morning to assist in cutting down thick scrub covering the 3sq km search area.

Using chainsaws, line trimmers and secateurs, crews worked throughout the day to clear a path for officers from the Public Order and Riot Squad to search.

Shepherded by three team leaders, police officers moved together in a straight line, using rakes and shovels to hack through thick vegetation. The search line would be stopped if an officer found anything of interest or fell behind the configuration.

Lead investigator Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin’s team has now canvassed almost one-third of the total search area in two days and he said they would continue the “long, slow process” from 8am this morning, with the assistance of the SES."

The Australian
12:00AM June 15, 2018

 

[SouthAussie]

Interesting that in 2 days they covered almost 1/3 of the area - presumably today they covered even more - yet the search is said to be scheduled for about 3-4 weeks.

Maybe they have tackled the easier terrain first, and now will be moving on to the tougher stuff.

 

[SouthAussie]

Has this been posted before? It was published today.

Google this Mama Mia article ..... you will need to find it by Googling the title.

The fascinating backstory of the detective who won’t give up on William Tyrrell.
And if there's one thing we know for sure about Detective Inspector Jubelin, it's his inability to sit with injustice.
If this crime is going to be solved, Detective Inspector Jubelin is surely the one to do it.

https://www.***********.au/detective-gary-jubelin/

 

[tmar]

Hi everyone. Long time lurker posting for the first time.



There is a house surrounded by forest not far from this house that gets my hinky meter going. I can't see a driveway. Has anyone looked into this before?

Welcome Kiwi.
Hope to see many more of your posts.
You have begun posting here, at perhaps, an interesting time: will there be something important to be found?

 

[InFocus]

Long time lurker,

Going to be in the minority here, don't hate me, it's just an opinion.

For mine I think it's been way too easy to point the finger at BS, he's the fall guy.
For decades there have been people wrongly convicted across the world for crimes they didn't commit.

Does anyone seriously think that if you were due to do a job on a particular day, at a particular house that you'd instead come along and take a child? You'd be the prime suspect without police having to look far. Surely he can't be that dumb? Yes the guy has historical charges pending before the courts, that may be purely coindential in the overall scheme of things with the Tyrrell case. No sympathy from me that he's facing those charges if he's commited the offences.

If you personally were considering taking someone from a place where you were due to be at to complete a job, might as well walk to the police station. But then again, people do, do, stupid things, don't they!

Personally I have struggled to believe the 'official' version of events.

Why?

IMO there remains question marks (things said that stick out like a sore thumb) in the 000 call, official police interview released on April 17th 2015 and the 60 mins interview. Unfortunately, I don't think people want to go down that path and dissect those 3 published items. I've listened countless times to the above 3 items there are aspects that have never sat well with me. I enjoy true crime cases and looking at the evidence that's published.

Do I think a murder has taken place? No! Sadly I don't think William is alive, hope I'm wrong.

I would expand on my thoughts but I don't think people would have an open mind; reading on here people seemed convinced the answers lie within previously named POIs. In time, you guys might prove to be correct.

I like everyone, want this tragic, appauling case solved. I really hope this 4 week bush investigation helps the dectectives in bringing this case either before a criminal court or a coronial inquest.

 

[Angeline]

Arrest or inquest: William Tyrrell investigators want absolute certainty

“Everything we do is planned. There is strategy behind every time we talk to the media and every inquiry we do. It's not done in an ad hoc fashion.

 

[SouthAussie]

I would expand on my thoughts but I don't think people would have an open mind; reading on here people seemed convinced the answers lie within previously named POIs. In time, you guys might prove to be correct.

Welcome!

We are only allowed to discuss the POIs on this forum. It is part of the TOS. No speculating in a named fashion about anyone else.
And we have been warned off the cleared parents many, many times, as you may have noticed while lurking.

My 2nd choice of suspect has always been a person on Benaroon Drive.

 

[Bohemian]

Long time lurker,

Going to be in the minority here, don't hate me, it's just an opinion.

For mine I think it's been way too easy to point the finger at BS, he's the fall guy.
For decades there have been people wrongly convicted across the world for crimes they didn't commit.

Does anyone seriously think that if you were due to do a job on a particular day, at a particular house that you'd instead come along and take a child? You'd be the prime suspect without police having to look far. Surely he can't be that dumb? Yes the guy has historical charges pending before the courts, that may be purely coindential in the overall scheme of things with the Tyrrell case. No sympathy from me that he's facing those charges if he's commited the offences.

If you personally were considering taking someone from a place where you were due to be at to complete a job, might as well walk to the police station. But then again, people do, do, stupid things, don't they!

Personally I have struggled to believe the 'official' version of events.

Why?

IMO there remains question marks (things said that stick out like a sore thumb) in the 000 call, official police interview released on April 17th 2015 and the 60 mins interview. Unfortunately, I don't think people want to go down that path and dissect those 3 published items. I've listened countless times to the above 3 items there are aspects that have never sat well with me. I enjoy true crime cases and looking at the evidence that's published.

Do I think a murder has taken place? No! Sadly I don't think William is alive, hope I'm wrong.

I would expand on my thoughts but I don't think people would have an open mind; reading on here people seemed convinced the answers lie within previously named POIs. In time, you guys might prove to be correct.

I like everyone, want this tragic, appauling case solved. I really hope this 4 week bush investigation helps the dectectives in bringing this case either before a criminal court or a coronial inquest.

Welcome IF. I appreciate your thoughts. Some of us may disagree with you but I don’t think anyone will hate you for having an opinion. As for me, I vacillate between the person I suspect of being responsible for William’s abduction. In fact, until William’s case is solved, I suspect anyone who hasn’t been cleared by DCI Jubelin, ie; the FP and BP.

 

[Warshawski]

Does anyone know what this gadget is? Something to test soil?

In my old bushy days I think we referred to something lie this as a 'post hole digger'. It brings out soil, so could be used used for 'core samples' for testing - for any number of things that I don't want to imagine

 

[Angeline]

Long time lurker,

Going to be in the minority here, don't hate me, it's just an opinion.

For mine I think it's been way too easy to point the finger at BS, he's the fall guy.
For decades there have been people wrongly convicted across the world for crimes they didn't commit.

Does anyone seriously think that if you were due to do a job on a particular day, at a particular house that you'd instead come along and take a child? You'd be the prime suspect without police having to look far. Surely he can't be that dumb? Yes the guy has historical charges pending before the courts, that may be purely coindential in the overall scheme of things with the Tyrrell case. No sympathy from me that he's facing those charges if he's commited the offences.

If you personally were considering taking someone from a place where you were due to be at to complete a job, might as well walk to the police station. But then again, people do, do, stupid things, don't they!

Personally I have struggled to believe the 'official' version of events.

Why?

IMO there remains question marks (things said that stick out like a sore thumb) in the 000 call, official police interview released on April 17th 2015 and the 60 mins interview. Unfortunately, I don't think people want to go down that path and dissect those 3 published items. I've listened countless times to the above 3 items there are aspects that have never sat well with me. I enjoy true crime cases and looking at the evidence that's published.

Do I think a murder has taken place? No! Sadly I don't think William is alive, hope I'm wrong.

I would expand on my thoughts but I don't think people would have an open mind; reading on here people seemed convinced the answers lie within previously named POIs. In time, you guys might prove to be correct.

I like everyone, want this tragic, appauling case solved. I really hope this 4 week bush investigation helps the dectectives in bringing this case either before a criminal court or a coronial inquest.

Welcome, infocus.

I'm open to hearing all theories. Admittedly the FPs' stories are inconsistent but I personally think the police have been instructing them on what to say.

As for BS, from what I remember he wasn't due to be at the house that day. I believe the police saw on phone records that he called the grandmother that morning to check if she was home because apparently the spare part had arrived early.

 

[kiwi50]

For me it would depend on the evidence they have. For example if they had an individual(s) on tape admitting what they had done and forensic evidence supporting it I could convict especially with no death penalty in Australia.

Yes that could help if i was a juror, or if someone came forward and said he had admitted it to them.

 

[k-mac]

Long time lurker,

Going to be in the minority here, don't hate me, it's just an opinion.

For mine I think it's been way too easy to point the finger at BS, he's the fall guy.
For decades there have been people wrongly convicted across the world for crimes they didn't commit.

Does anyone seriously think that if you were due to do a job on a particular day, at a particular house that you'd instead come along and take a child? You'd be the prime suspect without police having to look far. Surely he can't be that dumb? Yes the guy has historical charges pending before the courts, that may be purely coindential in the overall scheme of things with the Tyrrell case. No sympathy from me that he's facing those charges if he's commited the offences.

If you personally were considering taking someone from a place where you were due to be at to complete a job, might as well walk to the police station. But then again, people do, do, stupid things, don't they!

Personally I have struggled to believe the 'official' version of events.

Why?

IMO there remains question marks (things said that stick out like a sore thumb) in the 000 call, official police interview released on April 17th 2015 and the 60 mins interview. Unfortunately, I don't think people want to go down that path and dissect those 3 published items. I've listened countless times to the above 3 items there are aspects that have never sat well with me. I enjoy true crime cases and looking at the evidence that's published.

Do I think a murder has taken place? No! Sadly I don't think William is alive, hope I'm wrong.

I would expand on my thoughts but I don't think people would have an open mind; reading on here people seemed convinced the answers lie within previously named POIs. In time, you guys might prove to be correct.

I like everyone, want this tragic, appauling case solved. I really hope this 4 week bush investigation helps the dectectives in bringing this case either before a criminal court or a coronial inquest.

welcome infocus
yes it is faus pax around here not to be on the throw spedding under the bus brigade. (calm down everyone! its affectionately meant lol)
I agree with you many more do than you realise.
its unfortunate that Williams thread is so restrictive.
you can pretty much say what you like about spedding and the bios. everything else will be moderated out.
ive always had the opinion that we should be able to ask whatever questions and if innocent will help dismiss innuendo and false truths.
if its in msm its ok to discuss here. that's where the bios have gotten little support around here. they have named and outed themselves. they were granted the same privacy as the fosters I think?

 

[Bohemian]

Yes that could help if i was a juror, or if someone came forward and said he had admitted it to them.

I think my gold standard would be strong circumstantial evidence with some good old forensics thrown in. I would have to be convinced beyond reasonable doubt. I haven’t been able to form that opinion on the information I have to date.