Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #36

[papertrail]

Just out of curiosity... why do a few members keep saying “if William was abducted” ?
What are the other theories?
Does anyone believe William could have wondered further than the latest search area & succumbed to exposure?

"if" is used by me because nothing is over until its over. And I also believe not one single person can be ruled out until it is over.

 

[deugirtni]

"if" is used by me because nothing is over until its over. And I also believe not one single person can be ruled out until it is over.

Unless of course, they have a 'written in stone alibi'.. but yes, I agree, and especially, I can't see how people who were actually present at the time, can be totally cleared, until they have solved the case, which they have not.

 

[papertrail]

does anyone know the name connected to the triangular snippet of land that was subject of the recent search in Batar Creek Road?

Could it be possible police were actually searching another area and Batar Creek Road site was used as a decoy? I think there is a possibility of this scenario.

Such a tiny piece of land at Batar Creek Road and how many police squad members were involved there and for how many days? To me it looked like 'over kill'. No pun intended.

 

[deugirtni]

We only have names of alleged POI's from the media. The police have NEVER mentioned any names at any time.

Other than BS, whom 'Willing' stated as being 'at the very highest, he is a person of interest' (from memory). We can likely safely assume that those others, PB, DN, and TJ, are also POIs, however if it is even true that LE are now saying they have '4 high priority suspects and 1 POI', we can't know that those 4 include the 3 we already know about. jmo.

 

[deugirtni]

does anyone know the name connected to the triangular snippet of land that was subject of the recent search in Batar Creek Road?

Could it be possible police were actually searching another area and Batar Creek Road site was used as a decoy? I think there is a possibility of this scenario.

Such a tiny piece of land at Batar Creek Road and how many police squad members were involved there and for how many days? To me it looked like 'over kill'. No pun intended.

You have raised a very interesting point. Is it possible that GJ made a big to-do about the search being diverted to that new search area which was outside of the parameters stated at the beginning of their new search, to distract the media and have them all flock to somewhere else, out of their hair, so that they could actually search something more precise which was IN the original search area, in privacy? Hmm

 

[JLZ]

You have raised a very interesting point. Is it possible that GJ made a big to-do about the search being diverted to that new search area which was outside of the parameters stated at the beginning of their new search, to distract the media and have them all flock to somewhere else, out of their hair, so that they could actually search something more precise which was IN the original search area, in privacy? Hmm

Personally I think GJ has MSM under control. If he didn't want a search reported, it wouldn't be.

 

[deugirtni]

Personally I think GJ has MSM under control. If he didn't want a search reported, it wouldn't be.

Still would be difficult to harness that many people when it's a media-fest, even if they weren't to write about it in MSM articles.

 

[JLZ]

Still would be difficult to harness that many people when it's a media-fest, even if they weren't to write about it in MSM articles.

If you're talking about individual observers reporting on alternative media, a 'decoy' event somewhere else isn't going to prevent them. Not sure I get you.

 

[purpleandgreen]

"if" is used by me because nothing is over until its over. And I also believe not one single person can be ruled out until it is over.

Well the bio and foster parents have been ruled out. Personally by Jubes. Several times.

 

[papertrail]

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this interview with Cowan <modsnip: snipped derogatory name change> is pretty spine chilling. Listen to Cowan's answers to see how he scoped out cctv cameras and was able to name locations nearly 2 years after Daniel's abduction. He also has a very very good memory for numbers.

Oh he was so helpful to the investigators at the end making sure they had his current mobile phone number

And at the time of the interview he gave his address as 82 Bonnydoon Rd in Uki NSW.

After this video suggest watching the 'sting' video. He was into the colour purple.

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[Deleted member 102539]

Do we know which "4 high priority suspects", in addition to the "one POI" (whom I believe was said to be 'high profile'), in fact actually *are*? Are they the same POIs from all along? Are we certain that one of those POIs *isn't* such a person?

(That is if MSM can even be believed, since I'm not sure if the report about the '4 suspects and 1 POI' actually came out of the mouths of LE (ie via quotes) or direct pressers?)

The persons of interest in missing William Tyrrell case | Daily Mail Online
This article and more to it haven't gone in the media, so I think, it maybe as up-to-date as always. I remember seeing a very current article with all 4 (well-known for a long time) suspects pictured in one image. Unfortunately, I don't find it at the moment. If LE wouldn't have those 4 in mind, the media wouldn't dare to show them explicitly, IMO. Think of something like "defamation"!

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Personally I think GJ has MSM under control. If he didn't want a search reported, it wouldn't be.

The same would apply to pictures of suspects, IMO.

 

[papertrail]

The same would apply to pictures of suspects, IMO.

suspects or persons of interest. a great difference in law

 

[papertrail]

The persons of interest in missing William Tyrrell case | Daily Mail Online
This article and more to it haven't gone in the media, so I think, it maybe as up-to-date as always. I remember seeing a very current article with all 4 (well-known for a long time) suspects pictured in one image. Unfortunately, I don't find it at the moment. If LE wouldn't have those 4 in mind, the media wouldn't dare to show them explicitly, IMO. Think of something like "defamation"!

I think you will find that image was taken from one of the media documentaries and picked up by main stream media - naming 4 persons of interest. Was it sunday night, a current affair or 60 minutes...can't remember.

 

[deugirtni]

If you're talking about individual observers reporting on alternative media, a 'decoy' event somewhere else isn't going to prevent them. Not sure I get you.

The more people that know about something, the harder it is to control. A band of reporters, even if not writing articles about something in particular, still would know, and would potentially tell how many people, who would tell how many people, and so on. Rumors et started, etc. Stuff that I'm sure GJ would prefer not to deal with in the first place, better to just do what he needs to do in peace, to get the job done, whatever it is... the less media knows about something that GJ would prefer to keep quiet, the better. jmo.

 

[papertrail]

Other than BS, whom 'Willing' stated as being 'at the very highest, he is a person of interest' (from memory). We can likely safely assume that those others, PB, DN, and TJ, are also POIs, however if it is even true that LE are now saying they have '4 high priority suspects and 1 POI', we can't know that those 4 include the 3 we already know about. jmo.

I don't believe DI Willing ever mentioned a name.

 

[papertrail]

You have raised a very interesting point. Is it possible that GJ made a big to-do about the search being diverted to that new search area which was outside of the parameters stated at the beginning of their new search, to distract the media and have them all flock to somewhere else, out of their hair, so that they could actually search something more precise which was IN the original search area, in privacy? Hmm

Or maybe totally out of the initial 3 sq km search area initially announced. DCI Jubelin up to 'ol tricks me thinks.

So many expert police search personnel - I count about 50 at any one time - involved in an area just 1200 square metres for how many days - 3? They would have time to look at every single leaf, every single stone...etc. Something doesn't ring right.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

the amazing GJ has looked down all those rabbit holes

... re target being "that" child from "that" family and no other Kendall-child on another day of any week. Hopefully he has!

 

[Hbayne]

Or maybe totally out of the initial 3 sq km search area initially announced. DCI Jubelin up to 'ol tricks me thinks.

So many expert police search personnel - I count about 50 at any one time - involved in an area just 1200 square metres for how many days - 3? They would have time to look at every single leaf, every single stone...etc. Something doesn't ring right.

Shows how thorough they are being

 

[JLZ]

The more people that know about something, the harder it is to control. A band of reporters, even if not writing articles about something in particular, still would know, and would potentially tell how many people, who would tell how many people, and so on. Rumors et started, etc. Stuff that I'm sure GJ would prefer not to deal with in the first place, better to just do what he needs to do in peace, to get the job done, whatever it is... the less media knows about something that GJ would prefer to keep quiet, the better. jmo.

No, I can't see it. Supposing the band of reporters leaky, how do they know in the first place? Either they've been told, ultimately by LE, or they've observed it for themselves. If they've been told, the decoy event is neither here nor there. And why would LE tell them, if it was supposed to be secret? If they've observed it, knowing about something else happening in the operation isn't going to prevent leakage--it might well make the knowledge of what they've observed more interesting, a potential coup on what's already a current story.