Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #37

[SouthAussie]

I don't think I could say where and what time I was at a certain place, some months after the event. Not necessarily saying BS wouldn't know, when was that interview where he gave his alibi?
School events might be easy to check, also I delete call logs on my phone regularly, missed calls, ones I don't wish to reply to, things of that nature.
I had a parking fine a few years back, in a town a have never been to, in a car I don't own, nor ever owned. It was bizarre and several months after the event. I was lucky to be able to trawl back through my social media to find I was actually at children's play group but I had no evidence to support it.
The onus was on me to prove I wasn't there and didn't own the car. It cost me lawyers fees.

BBM: Exactly, you must prove to the police that you weren't there, in order to establish your innocence to them. A point we have been trying our hardest to make.

With regard to Spedding's police interview(s). He underwent his 10-page recorded interview shortly after William went missing. Not months later.


Mr Spedding took part in a 10-page recorded interview with detectives soon after little William went missing on the day the tradesman was due to fix the toddler’s grandmother’s washing machine.
Tradesman Bill Spedding had a 10-page interview

 

[Goosewhisperer]

BBM: Exactly, you must prove to the police that you weren't there, in order to establish your innocence to them. A point we have been trying our hardest to make.

With regard to Spedding's police interview(s). He underwent his 10-page recorded interview shortly after William went missing. Not months later.


Mr Spedding took part in a 10-page recorded interview with detectives soon after little William went missing on the day the tradesman was due to fix the toddler’s grandmother’s washing machine.
Tradesman Bill Spedding had a 10-page interview

So, when was "soon after?" 10 pages seems a lot if it was only days after. The point I was trying to make, is, I had no proof I wasn't there, other than a SM post which was not proof, to RTA. No proof I didn't own that car nor drove it.
By the way, I am not "arguing against you"
I am merely looking at every possibility, including the ones you put up.

 

[SouthAussie]

So, when was "soon after?" 10 pages seems a lot if it was only days after. The point I was trying to make, is, I had no proof I wasn't there, other than a SM post which was not proof, to RTA. No proof I didn't own that car nor drove it.
By the way, I am not "arguing against you"
I am merely looking at every possibility, including the ones you put up.

I appreciate you looking at every possibility, because that is certainly what the Coroner will do, as well as the police, and a court of law.

Some of us truly are not arriving at some of the deductions we are making because we have anything personal against Spedding or are being swept along by MSM info.

We are interrogating the info - offered by the police and by ole Col and by others - and stacking it up in piles against each person's name, and making deductions based on that. For me, personally, Spedding is at the top of the list. But there are others that I have under consideration. None of them named in the media as POIs, so I am unable to really discuss them.

 

[papertrail]

Not so sure he was set up by anybody, more likely a disgruntled person took advantage of the situation, however, he is a POI because he was at the house just days prior to Sep 12th., not for any other reason I can fathom.

That is exactly right and we need to keep in mind a simple question, and that is 'on what premise did police initially look at Spedding?' Was it because someone made contact immediately after William's disappearance? What was the timing of that contact?

When was the first instance of Spedding's name being put out into the public arena by media? His name has never been put out there directly by police, so which media organization was the first, and did someone with vexatious intent make contact with that media organization?

Is that someone with (alleged) vexatious intent connected with Spedding's past perhaps around 1987 in Campbelltown and Ballarat region?

 

[papertrail]

BBM: Exactly, you must prove to the police that you weren't there, in order to establish your innocence to them. A point we have been trying our hardest to make.

With regard to Spedding's police interview(s). He underwent his 10-page recorded interview shortly after William went missing. Not months later.


Mr Spedding took part in a 10-page recorded interview with detectives soon after little William went missing on the day the tradesman was due to fix the toddler’s grandmother’s washing machine.
Tradesman Bill Spedding had a 10-page interview

You do not have to 'prove' your innocence to police. You have to provide a verifiable alibi. It is up to police to check whether your alibi is verifiable but if it is not or your alibi fails then that can be added to the evidence collected. the police will continue with their investigations. An alibi is a very small part of an investigation.

 

[SouthAussie]

You do not have to 'prove' your innocence to police. You have to provide a verifiable alibi. It is up to police to check whether your alibi is verifiable but if it is not or your alibi fails then that can be added to the evidence collected. the police will continue with their investigations. An alibi is a very small part of an investigation.

Thanks, I am not going to argue this point all over again. We spent the best part of one evening trying to get across that the police look at your inability of having done the crime through various methods, an alibi being one.
And the courts look at your capability of having done the crime, through guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

I think most people get the gist of exactly what we have been trying to say.

 

[papertrail]

No, I don't believe that he thought he would not be on the police radar. Hence the missing calls in his call log ....... and a possibly contrived alibi (as police found inconsistencies in what Spedding told them about his movements on that fateful day).

Which, to me, says that this was not a planned event, but an opportunistic abduction. The cover up was just not good enough for it to have been planned. imo


BBM:
Police seized his telephone records and those of William’s grandmother as they have checked his statement that he had a missed call from the grandmother that morning and tried to call back but could not get through.
A friend of Mr Spedding’s said yesterday that police had questioned Mr Spedding about “why the phone calls were no longer in the call log on his mobile phone.”
We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph


As they checked out everyone’s statements about where they were on that Friday, detectives allegedly found some inconsistencies in what Mr Spedding told them which led them to raid his former pawnbroking office in Laurieton and his home at Bonny Hills this week.
We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph

I do wonder if call logs can be deleted by a phone hacker and not leave a trace?

In fact I believe the foster mother had attempted to make contact with Spedding on the day of William's disappearance to tell him the day was not convenient. She has mentioned this in one of her television interviews. She said he had phoned and left a message and she called back later in the day.

We don't know that Spedding personally deleted call logs. I know some phones can be set to auto delete after a period of time. We don't know when police 1st checked his call log system. The raid on his Laurieton business premises and the residence in Bonny Hills was not done until January 2015 4 months after William's disappearance. Lots of people manually clear logs, including me.

Another point, is who else had access to Spedding's telephone/s?

 

[papertrail]

Thanks, I am not going to argue this point all over again. We spent the best part of one evening trying to get across that the police look at your inability of having done the crime through various methods, an alibi being one.
And the courts look at your capability of having done the crime, through guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

I think most people get the gist of exactly what we have been trying to say.

I did not view 'that evening's' discussions before the moderator deleted such.

Discussion is not argument imo.

 

[SouthAussie]

I did not view 'that evening's' discussions before the moderator deleted such.

FYI ... nothing has been deleted.

 

[Thebottomline]

I do wonder if call logs can be deleted by a phone hacker and not leave a trace?

In fact I believe the foster mother had attempted to make contact with Spedding on the day of William's disappearance to tell him the day was not convenient. She has mentioned this in one of her television interviews. She said he had phoned and left a message and she called back later in the day.

We don't know that Spedding personally deleted call logs. I know some phones can be set to auto delete after a period of time. We don't know when police 1st checked his call log system. The raid on his Laurieton business premises and the residence in Bonny Hills was not done until January 2015 4 months after William's disappearance. Lots of people manually clear logs, including me.

Another point, is who else had access to Spedding's telephone/s?

Didn’t BS call her later in the day and Fm said not to come ?
William Tyrrell investigation turns to grandparent support groups

 

[Thebottomline]

Can someone please tell me how to bold a sentence or paragraph in a linked article.

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

Can someone please tell me how to bold a sentence or paragraph in a linked article.

You see B I U above in the reply box? Highlight whatever you want to Bold and hit that B. Does that make sense? Hope so, lol.

 

[Thebottomline]

You see B I U above in the reply box? Highlight whatever you want to Bold and hit that B. Does that make sense? Hope so, lol.

Testing

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

Testing

Highlight Testing then hit that B above i.e. Testing

 

[Thebottomline]

Highlight Testing then hit that B above i.e. Testing

Sorry but how do I highlight,apologies for being ot

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

Sorry but how do I highlight,apologies for being ot

There, I done it for you lol. (You just highlight apologies then hit that B next to the I that is displayed in this box)

 

[Thebottomline]

There, I done it for you lol. (You just highlight apologies then hit that B next to the I that is displayed in this box)

Thankyou

 

[Whàngarei]

Imo things were ramping up. Dg kc tj jg.....were friendly right up until late dec 2017. Moo imo. What could have happened between then and mid Feb 2018? Moo imo.

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

Imo things were ramping up. Dg kc tj jg.....were friendly right up until late dec 2017. Moo imo. What could have happened between then and mid Feb 2018? Moo imo.

Hmm...your guess is as good as mine! (Yep, that's all I got sorry).

 

[Whàngarei]

My guess something to do with pb and tj , imo.