Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #38

[JLZ]

My point was ... Mr Savage does not appear to feel particularly threatened, as he has apparently not engaged a lawyer from early in the piece, as Spedding did.

Is that to me? I took your point the first time and I wasn't arguing about that. It was to register second thoughts in relation to what I posted earlier in reply to Soso.

 

[Angeline]

I wish the media could've shed some light on why Mr Savage was mentioned in the Directions Hearing. If he's applied to be a part of the inquest because he's a concerned neighbour, and even paying for a lawyer so that he can participate, then he's a hero IMO. Maybe he has a lot to say and has felt like he hasn't been heard? I don't know. I'm hoping it's for good reasons.

 

[SouthAussie]

Is that to me? I took your point the first time and I wasn't arguing about that. It was to register second thoughts in relation to what I posted earlier in reply to Soso.

No, sorry. It was to papertrail. I thought I quoted the relevant post in my reply.

 

[JLZ]

No, sorry. It was to papertrail. I thought I quoted the relevant post in my reply.

Oops. Maybe because I have one or two members on ignore. Though I usually peep anyway.

 

[purpleandgreen]

I was not aware until watching this that the command post for the recent search was set up outside Paul Savage's house? More sensationalism?

Interesting observation, Inspector.

 

[purpleandgreen]

For heavens sake. And the command was setup over the road from 48 where William disappeared from. Possibly because new residents at 48 and police couldn't block them in.

Whats all this banging on about Mr Savage for? Really and truly he was only a very helpful neighbour.

As far as we know at this stage.

 

[purpleandgreen]

May have but may not have. He did say recently he walked up to the track on a regular basis so he may have seen something there. He also said he checked that area 1st on day.

He seems to have had a fair bit to say, doesn't he? Hope it's useful to Jubes and his team.

 

[purpleandgreen]

I really don't understand the innuendo regarding the socalled loner. There are many people that seek solitude and peace and would be quite disturbed by this terrible event and the continual publicity and presence of tv and media crews and investigators. Give people a bit of latitude please. Walk a minute in their shoes.

And in the shoes of the investigators and of William's families.

 

[purpleandgreen]

I'm a little confused that if Mr. Savage was called to appear, why all of the other neighbours weren't called as well. Surely everyone involved right in the very beginning might have information to add to the overall picture of that morning and how it unfolded.

Perhaps that's why there's 'innuendo', although IMO it's more sleuthing, discussing, delving. After all that's what WS is all about. And this thread is about finding out what happened to William.

 

[sleepinoz]

I wonder if Mr Savage was the source of this "new information", while they were set up outside his home, and altered the search to Batar Creek Rd

On Wednesday, the police chief who's been leading the hunt for William revealed how new information led investigators to one discrete area - as the search party closes in on an 800 square metre block of bushland.

Detectives investigating William Tyrrell's disappearance 'have identified FIVE suspects including a person of interest who lives near the new search area'

 

[Blues Clues]

Peter O'Brien cautioning the media may work in our favour. If they are kept on their toes, the reporting of the inquiry should be less erroneous than the reporting in the early stages of William's disappearance. Feeling hopeful.

 

[Wexford]

For heavens sake. And the command was setup over the road from 48 where William disappeared from. Possibly because new residents at 48 and police couldn't block them in.

Whats all this banging on about Mr Savage for? Really and truly he was only a very helpful neighbour.

Because the media are. Which is why I ask if it is just more sensationalism? But I also bear in mind that the media have been privy to a lot of information in this case that they are not allowed to report. Who can forget Caroline Overington's concerns about what the media were not allowed to tell the public about his case.
If the media are 'banging on' about Mr Savage, therefore we can discuss it and certainly question why they chose to do so when I am quite sure there are others they could be discussing too.

 

[Wexford]

Yeah but I think I'm slightly faceblind.

Yes and vice versa but as PS says he was in the street and BS insists he was elsewhere and as far as we know the alibi's unconfirmed, it's perhaps more likely that a claimed spotting of BS would be the one challenged. Rightly or wrongly.

"Really"--what?

I agree JLZ. How would you describe either one if you saw them in passing. And how would a small child perhaps describe either one in passing too? I think maybe something like 'old man, not fat or thin, white hair, no beard or moustache'?

 

[Thebottomline]

I agree JLZ. How would you describe either one if you saw them in passing. And how would a small child perhaps describe either one in passing too? I think maybe something like 'old man, not fat or thin, white hair, no beard or moustache'?

Maybe one passed on info to the other ?

 

[SouthAussie]

I agree JLZ. How would you describe either one if you saw them in passing. And how would a small child perhaps describe either one in passing too? I think maybe something like 'old man, not fat or thin, white hair, no beard or moustache'?

"He had a big white car (van)"?

 

[Freddo Frog]

Off topic but Ron Iddles ( one of Aus leading detectives) has a series coming out on crime channel on Foxtel on 31st of Jan.He is rated by some in the media as Australia’s best ever detective .He is quite a formidable man. Would love to hear his take on Williams investigation.

I have read his biography, he seems to be a great man and cop.

 

[papertrail]

Because the media are. Which is why I ask if it is just more sensationalism? But I also bear in mind that the media have been privy to a lot of information in this case that they are not allowed to report. Who can forget Caroline Overington's concerns about what the media were not allowed to tell the public about his case.
If the media are 'banging on' about Mr Savage, therefore we can discuss it and certainly question why they chose to do so when I am quite sure there are others they could be discussing too.

The media probably had advice Mr Savage was listed on the Directions Hearing. Too much of a coincidence he was outed in media just prior.

 

[papertrail]

Well, Mr Savage didn't have his legal representation teed up and available yet. He obviously is not as concerned about the investigation and proceedings as Spedding is and has been.

And Spedding is known to be at the 48 house 3 days beforehand and was due to return that is the initial reason he came up as a POI

 

[sosocurious]

And Spedding is known to be at the 48 house 3 days beforehand and was due to return that is the initial reason he came up as a POI

Is that why he initially came up as a poi?
From memory I think it was Col that said something like that being the reason.

That right Col said he was there on Monday the 8th. Spedding corrected that in his u tube release, claiming it was the Tuesday the 9th.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...iam-tyrell-investigation-20150121-12v4n3.html

Didn't he come to police attention because of inconsistencies in his alibi on the day William disappeared?

 

[papertrail]

Is that why he initially came up as a poi?
From memory I think it was Col that said something like that being the reason.

That right Col said he was there on Monday the 8th. Spedding corrected that in his u tube release, claiming it was the Tuesday the 9th.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...iam-tyrell-investigation-20150121-12v4n3.html

Didn't he come to police attention because of inconsistencies in his alibi on the day William disappeared?

The 1st thing police would have done is checked what went on at 48 beforehand. Checked outgoing and incoming calls and would have seen the Spedding link. Then checked him out. Then there was the woman whose children had been fostered by the Speddings and her story. That is why he was honed on and then alleged historic offenses came to light and the story goes on. That is why Spedding has high powered legals on side.

Currently there is no public proof of inconsistencies in his alibi/s. No statement by police just media beatup and discussions here.