Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #42

[Thebottomline]

Yes Bios have been cleared IMO..but extended family/associates are not...once again it comes

"Police have not drawn the positive conclusion that a known relative or associate was not involved in William's disappearance," Mr Craddock said.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.sm...he-vanished-inquest-told-20190324-p51739.html

Mr Craddock also told the court there was "no doubt" that the toddler's biological parents were in Sydney on the day he went missing, but that "he didn't disappear because he was in foster care".

Evidence will show William Tyrrell 'was likely taken', inquest told

"Investigators have not positively identified that no relatives were involved in William's disappearance."

I wonder if they are called to inquest

 

[frogwell]

And that Fcarers had initiated adoption process 14 days before William disappeared.

It's interesting the difference in reporting on each podcast about this event. One reports that a casual enquiry was made about adoption, the other reports that a formal inquiry.

 

[Thebottomline]

It's interesting the difference in reporting on each podcast about this event. One reports that a casual enquiry was made about adoption, the other reports that a formal process was begun.

No doubt it will come out at inquest if it’s relevent to the investigation

 

[frogwell]

No doubt it will come out at inquest if it’s relevent to the investigation

Well that's my problem with it see? I have every doubt that all relevant information that needs to be examined will occur at this inquest to further this investigation. imo

 

[CuriousCritter]

I wonder if they are called to inquest

Certainly possible they may

 

[Bohemian]

No doubt it will come out at inquest if it’s relevent to the investigation

I suppose the only way it could be relevant is if alleged knowledge or reporting of adoption proceedings by William’s BM were a catalyst for his disappearance/suspected death.

 

[CuriousCritter]

It's interesting the difference in reporting on each podcast about this event. One reports that a casual enquiry was made about adoption, the other reports that a formal process was begun.

It's interesting the difference in reporting on each podcast about this event. One reports that a casual enquiry was made about adoption, the other reports that a formal process was begun.

What one do you believe, having attended the inquest?

 

[interested64]

It's not real clear when BM heard about the possible adoption

I didn't agree [with adoption plans], I had heard about that ... they [case workers] said it wasn't happening, we were still trying to get the children back, we were at court," she told Deputy State Coroner Harriet Grahame.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.sm...l-mother-takes-the-stand-20190328-p518ii.html

Now this does bother me,when did she find out about it? and in that answer maybe he was taken because he was in foster care? and if the bf were told it wasnt happening when was that..or was facs playing games that fc were not aware of? curious

 

[interested64]

She stated at inquest she had no knowledge and obtained the information from the file after William's disappearance. From memory I am sure that was verified by caseworker. Thread 39 or 40.

How devastating would that be to find out an adoption process relative to both of your children in OOHC was covertly underway from 29 August 2014 14 days before William's disappearance ...whilst at the sametime you were fighting the system to have the children returned to your custody.

And then one of these beloved children vanishes...gone!

I cannot think of words....

I agree so very heart breaking but i feel the ff isnt to blame for this and who ever is in charge of this stuff needs a slap imo

 

[CuriousCritter]

Now this does bother me,when did she find out about it? and in that answer maybe he was taken because he was in foster care? and if the bf were told it wasnt happening when was that..or was facs playing games that fc were not aware of? curious

Adoption sure does give a motive for abduction...but I guess until we know the real facts whether it was known about by bios or whether it was known about before or after William's disappearance, then the answer remains unknown

 

[purpleandgreen]

Well that's my problem with it see? I have every doubt that all relevant information that needs to be examined will occur at this inquest to further this investigation. imo

You need to have faith, froggy. Don’t give up before it even starts.

But we also need to be prepared to hear some things that we don’t want to; that go against our hopes & theories, so to speak. IMO

 

[Thebottomline]

Well that's my problem with it see? I have every doubt that all relevant information that needs to be examined will occur at this inquest to further this investigation. imo

I guess we have to have faith in the coroner

 

[purpleandgreen]

What one do you believe, having attended the inquest?

And perhaps the doc could also help out here too. IMO.

 

[frogwell]

What one do you believe, having attended the inquest?

I believe the caseworker, FaCS and the BM should be probed more deeply.

 

[CuriousCritter]

And perhaps the doc could also help out here too. IMO.

Yes I'm sure Doc could contribute to having attended the inquest also. I was just replying and asking what Frog thought

 

[interested64]

We have waited so long for this inquest. It’s going to be a huge anti climax if it ends with no answers, which I feel it may well do.
If there is not enough evidence to arrest anyone I cant see the case being solved.
Those who have something to hide are unlikely to suddenly tell the truth.

I think this is what the fc are afraid of and no one will keep looking after it

 

[CuriousCritter]

I believe the caseworker, FaCS and the BM should be probed more deeply.

I 100% agree with you

 

[papertrail]

Or if your on a mobile phone you have to turn it sideways to get the number.

Lol 1st time I have tried that.... magic happened. Thankyou!

Wish magic would happen with my dead laptop now a borrowed laptop has gone out in sympathy. #@*? Grrrr

 

[Thebottomline]

I believe the caseworker, FaCS and the BM should be probed more deeply.

The question posed to the caseworker about the photograph of William was odd to me. I keep going back to the photo of William ( grainy one ) on strike
forces wall . that photo has always bothered me

 

[papertrail]

I 100% agree with you

I have a feeling caseworker might have mentioned adoption to bio mother to ascertain her reaction given the caseworker would know she was fighting the system. She reacted...she testified... 'I didnt agree with adoption plans etc' as above ... then he said something like...it's ok nothing is happening....but something was happening to put her at ease and adoption process commenced just days after bio mum's last access visit with William.

I am curious as to when initial adoption discussion occurred between OOHC carers and caseworker.

The following should be kept in mind as it is a different scenario than what was written by Sillybilly tonight. The bio parents have been cleared by police.

Police have not ruled out that William Tyrrell could have been abducted by a relative or associate, the inquest into the missing boy has heard.
William Tyrrell’s inquest: Family tears in court as inquest starts in Sydney

This 'associate' ...Could that be the young man a former boyfriend of biomum whose mother made statements in the media early December 2018 that her son Jacob Nichols considered he was the bio father of William. Furthermore that he had hidden William somewhere on an Aboriginal Community

Could this guy be the POI of interest thaf will appear at inquest? Surely police have carried out DNA comparison to verify but if this guy believed he was William's father and heard about adoption plans well.....hmmmm.

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Timing of media story is very interesting .... as 1st Coronial directions hearing was in the wind and when subpoenas would be issued for inquest appearances.

In saying above I do not consider either bio parents had any input or knowledge whatsoever regarding William's disappearance.

I cannot post media link due to strict suppression orders issued by the Coroner. All articles mention biomother's name and publication is forbidden.