Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #48

[JLZ]

Tiahliegh Palmer’s name was published when she went missing and before she was found murdered and she was in foster care.
The only difference I can see is maybe is to protect William’s sister otherwise I can’t see a difference.

Not for six days apparently and the Premier wasn't happy about the delay. Different state.
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/na...earolds-funeral-in-logan-20151114-gkywcq.html

 

[Karinna]

Something to think about is Feb 2014.
FGM's hubby died in Feb 2014.
Savage was arrested and charged for breaching the AVO against him for stalking the postie also, in Feb 2014.

I can't help but wonder if the delivery of sympathy cards, and perhaps flowers, to FGM at that time had postie in the area of Savage's house at that time. Hence, the breach of the AVO came about - with Savage waiting around for her daily delivery. And perhaps FGM (and/or FPs) getting somewhat involved - asking Savage to leave postie alone, being a recorded witness for the police.

As Shadow said, if 'Lindsey' had been alone for a short period that morning would it have been her that was taken instead? Did which child it was matter, or did it just matter that hurt was inflicted on that family?

BBM, Where is this info. from? Never heard that before? Or is it just IYO?

 

[SouthAussie]

Tiahliegh Palmer’s name was published when she went missing and before she was found murdered and she was in foster care.
The only difference I can see is maybe is to protect William’s sister otherwise I can’t see a difference.

William's name was published on the night he went missing (variation spelling of the surname) and his photo published the following day. We put up the links for this not far back in the threads ... during one of our convos about Mr Chapman's sighting.

But Tiahleigh's FPs names were not withheld. As you say, likely due to the fact that they had no other foster child in their care.

 

[sosocurious]

BBM, Where is this info. from? Never heard that before? Or is it just IYO?

The woman was granted a personal violence order in April 2013, which prevented him from approaching or contacting her, forcing he and his late wife Heather to collect their mail from the local post office instead of having it delivered.

Despite the order, Savage then approached her while she delivered mail to a neighbour’s address in February 2014. She called police, who arrested and charged Savage with breaching the order.

 

[Karinna]

The woman was granted a personal violence order in April 2013, which prevented him from approaching or contacting her, forcing he and his late wife Heather to collect their mail from the local post office instead of having it delivered.

Despite the order, Savage then approached her while she delivered mail to a neighbour’s address in February 2014. She called police, who arrested and charged Savage with breaching the order.

Thanks. I guess it depends how many neighbours there were near PS? Only FGM?
And did he approach her in a vehicle or on foot?
ETA, To my knowledge post persons don't deliver flowers either, that's usually done by a Florist.

 

[they'll get you]

BBM, Where is this info. from? Never heard that before? Or is it just IYO?

SA said she was wondering if....
It makes sense to me, no facts but a possible scenario.

 

[SouthAussie]

SA said she was wondering if....
It makes sense to me, no facts but a possible scenario.

Thanks tgy. I guess some don't read the signatures that quite a few of us have.
And you are correct, I didn't say 'when'.

 

[sosocurious]

Thanks. I guess it depends how many neighbours there were near PS? Only FGM?
And did he approach her in a vehicle or on foot?
ETA, To my knowledge post persons don't deliver flowers either, that's usually done by a Florist.

I heard it said somewhere things are done differently in the country.
Does it matter what neigbour/s were there? Other neighbours could still have been witnesses to whatever occurred. The hypothesis is it was around this time. It is not an assertion.

 

[Karinna]

I heard it said somewhere things are done differently in the country.
Does it matter what neigbour/s were there? Other neighbours could still have been witnesses to whatever occurred. The hypothesis is it was around this time. It is not an assertion.

Sorry i'm not understanding, what was around what time?

 

[kiwi50]

It seems that it was the person in the 'creepy house' that FGM alluded to. His home was searched 3 times in the first 24 hours, so it seems that police took her suspicions on board initially.

A close neighbour committing this crime makes the most sense of all. imo
And ranks highly when using the KISS principle - and the Occam's Razor philosophy.

My Occam’s Razor theory, if we went back to day one, was that William drowned somehow or was missed in the bush search, especially when we were told originally that thr children were playing hide and seek.
I have moved on from that now but I always think of the wee girl in NZ who fell down a manhole very close to where she was last seen, it took days to find her, and at one point they were looking for a suspicious asian woman.

If we never get answers to what happened to William, I think I’ll always have a tiny doubt, that foul play was involved.
Occams Razor just isnt working for me now.

 

[sosocurious]

Thanks. I guess it depends how many neighbours there were near PS? Only FGM?
And did he approach her in a vehicle or on foot?
ETA, To my knowledge post persons don't deliver flowers either, that's usually done by a Florist.

The woman was granted a personal violence order in April 2013, which prevented him from approaching or contacting her, forcing he and his late wife Heather to collect their mail from the local post office instead of having it delivered.

Despite the order, Savage then approached her while she delivered mail to a neighbour’s address in February 2014. She called police, who arrested and charged Savage with breaching the order.

Sorry I forgot to link
Revealed: Man Questioned Over William Tyrrell Breached Restraining Order

It’s believed he has previously been questioned by the strike force about his history with police, including the alleged stalking, but he was not questioned about the incidents in open court.

Curious about what the history might be. How many times did the police visit PS in relation to this matter I wonder?

 

[SouthAussie]

My Occam’s Razor theory, if we went back to day one, was that William drowned somehow or was missed in the bush search, especially when we were told originally that thr children were playing hide and seek.
I have moved on from that now but I always think of the wee girl in NZ who fell down a manhole very close to where she was last seen, it took days to find her, and at one point they were looking for a suspicious asian woman.

If we never get answers to what happened to William, I think I’ll always have a tiny doubt, that foul play was involved.
Occams Razor just isnt working for me now.

And the thing is, if William is ever found relatively close by in the bush or in a dam, I wonder if it can ever be conclusively determined if he wandered there himself or if he was taken there. So much time has now passed.

 

[Karinna]

Sorry I forgot to link
Revealed: Man Questioned Over William Tyrrell Breached Restraining Order

It’s believed he has previously been questioned by the strike force about his history with police, including the alleged stalking, but he was not questioned about the incidents in open court.

Curious about what the history might be. How many times did the police visit PS in relation to this matter I wonder?

Thanks for the link. Yes i get that PS had an order not to approach the female postal worker.
But my previous post was in regard to a theory purported here that the reason that maybe PS did something to WT was because he might have blamed FGM in some way for the AVO and being in cahoots with the female postal worker against him?
That was why i asked was FGM the actual neighbour the postal worker delivered mail to when PS approached her violating the AVO?

 

[Karinna]

My Occam’s Razor theory, if we went back to day one, was that William drowned somehow or was missed in the bush search, especially when we were told originally that thr children were playing hide and seek.
I have moved on from that now but I always think of the wee girl in NZ who fell down a manhole very close to where she was last seen, it took days to find her, and at one point they were looking for a suspicious asian woman.

If we never get answers to what happened to William, I think I’ll always have a tiny doubt, that foul play was involved.
Occams Razor just isnt working for me now.

I have always had that tiny bit of doubt about WT being missed in the searches and if there were any places he could of fallen into and not been noticed?
And i know it has been stated he wasn't a child that tendered to wander but MFC said this
(quote)
'I was thinking so many things at once,' the father explained to the officer.

'I need to cover as much ground as I can in the shortest possible time.'

The officer asked William's foster father if knowing that he was not being watched by 'mummy and daddy' would stop him from walking away from the property.

'Na, he'd give it a shot,' he said.

William Tyrrell's foster mother's harrowing triple-zero call when he vanished is replayed in court | Daily Mail Online

 

[purpleandgreen]

Thanks. I guess it depends how many neighbours there were near PS? Only FGM?
And did he approach her in a vehicle or on foot?
ETA, To my knowledge post persons don't deliver flowers either, that's usually done by a Florist.

Who was on foot? PS?

Posties do deliver cards.

 

[sosocurious]

Who was on foot? PS?

Posties do deliver cards.

OT
It is interesting the things posties deliver.

A postman delivering a package to a home in Victoria has been caught on camera urinating in a pot plant when no one answered the door.
https://7news.com.au/news/vic/caugh...rinates-into-pot-plant-at-front-door-c-171476

 

[purpleandgreen]

Thanks for the link. Yes i get that PS had an order not to approach the female postal worker.
Buy my previous post was in regard to a theory purported here that the reason that maybe PS did something to WT was because he might have blamed FGM in some way for the AVO and being in cahoots with the female postal worker against him?
That was why i asked was FGM the actual neighbour the postal worker delivered mail to when PS approached her violating the AVO?

With all due respect I think that’s irrelevant. It doesn’t matter who the mail was being delivered to, it just puts the postie in the street and at the mercy of Ps. IMO.

However, it’s quite reasonable to suggest that the postie confided in FGM. And that’s what it is , a suggestion, or wondering. Not fact. Wonder. Supposition. Hypothetical. Exploring possibilities. IMO.

 

[Karinna]

Who was on foot? PS?

Posties do deliver cards.

Yes, when he approached the post lady to violate the AVO. I actually asked if he was in a vehicle or on foot when he approached her?
And yes, of course postie's deliver cards, but flowers? Kendall has a flower delivery that delivers those things in Kendall.

Flowers Kendall Florist NSW flowers and gifts delivered

 

[Karinna]

With all due respect I think that’s irrelevant. It doesn’t matter who the mail was being delivered to, it just puts the postie in the street and at the mercy of Ps. IMO.

However, it’s quite reasonable to suggest that the postie confided in FGM. And that’s what it is , a suggestion, or wondering. Not fact. Wonder. Supposition. Hypothetical. Exploring possibilities. IMO.

My reply was to someone else's post. And it was relevant to me to explain to the poster in what context the meaning of my previous post.

 

[purpleandgreen]

Yes, when he approached the post lady to violate the AVO. I actually asked if he was in a vehicle or on foot when he approached her?
And yes, of course postie's deliver cards, but flowers? Kendall has a flower delivery that delivers those things in Kendall.

Flowers Kendall Florist NSW flowers and gifts delivered

And so? That still puts postie and PS in the street. Florist is irrelevant, unless there is new information. IMO.