Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #52

[Wexford]

i guess a local drug dealer could supply viagra, but cant imagine how ps would even know how to contact them, or the dark web?
you can buy some drugs legally online with a prescription but not sure if viagra is included, i just thought if his dr prescribed it he would have bought it from the pharmacy and no need to be outside waiting for the delivery? its so sordid this has even been reported, i cant see the relevance to william, unless its to infer he was getting it ready for the abduction, which is disturbing and ridiculous!

Only that he was packing his suitcase to supposedly go and stay at his brother's for a couple of weeks. I am questioning that this is where he really was going especially as he didn't go at that day at all after William went missing, yet his brother was just out of hospital and needing care and apparently waiting for him to pick him up. Is he lying about where he was going and why?

 

[Tinker Taylor]

Brain fade here. Have skimmed to many pages today.

The mail contractors, who deliver out of town, aren't the same people that serve behind the counter at the post office.

 

[Tinker Taylor]

double

 

[JLZ]

But in MSM it states that it wasn't until October that police informed PS that the police had planted the suit to obtain his reaction. If GJ is insisting that PS is lying, how would he know whether or not PS even saw anything, nor what exactly he saw, etc., unless he outted that to PS?

I can't access the article in The Australian but I trust Soso to have an exact source. She says that in his August statement PS denied having seen the suit on the first day. I don't see why asking PS (in August, or in July) whether the suit was there when he passed that way the day before would betray that the suit was planted. It was important that they knew how long the suit had been there and the natural assumption would be that it had been there some time.

 

[sosocurious]

But in MSM it states that it wasn't until October that police informed PS that the police had planted the suit to obtain his reaction. If GJ is insisting that PS is lying, how would he know whether or not PS even saw anything, nor what exactly he saw, etc., unless he outted that to PS?

Assertion based on what the operatives in the bush had told him, maybe. The point being PS lied in the official police interview on the 16 August. When he was told just 2 weeks later on the 5th October, that there were photo's of him stopping near the suit and he was left to think about things. He started muttering about white top....all recorded by the surveillance in the home. The next day he phoned Jubes personally to correct his version, which is also recorded. I am wondering how long before the recording on the 5th were reviewed.

 

[Thebottomline]

The mail contractors, who deliver out of town, aren't the same people that serve behind the counter at the post office.

My local postie delivers parcels here that are sent through Aus post. Other parcels come via independent delivery companies. Depends who the sender uses. Anyway as was stated by others here, PS wouldn’t have had mail delivered by postie anyway as she was threatened enough to have an AVO taken out against him

 

[stormyseas]

i guess a local drug dealer could supply viagra, but cant imagine how ps would even know how to contact them, or the dark web?
you can buy some drugs legally online with a prescription but not sure if viagra is included, i just thought if his dr prescribed it he would have bought it from the pharmacy and no need to be outside waiting for the delivery? its so sordid this has even been reported, i cant see the relevance to william, unless its to infer he was getting it ready for the abduction, which is disturbing and ridiculous!

BBM It is an extremely disturbing thought.. but child sex offenders have been known to engage in such behaviours. In no way am I implying that PS fits into this category. IMO

 

[JLZ]

My local postie delivers parcels here that are sent through Aus post. Other parcels come via independent delivery companies. Depends who the sender uses. Anyway as was stated by others here, PS wouldn’t have had mail delivered by postie anyway as she was threatened enough to have an AVO taken out against him

I wonder if independent contractors ever contract with more than one courier company, Australia Post plus others, especially in small areas where delivery may be sporadic.

Edit, semi-related: When I have mail held by Australia Post, it doesn't include parcels, it seems that's a different system. Just wondering if one postie or another had to deliver any parcels to PS's residence.

 

[SLouTh]

What source does the Daily Telegraph give for the new information? I'm still not seeing anyone else pick up the story.

This statement was in the article they printed on the weekend….. on 12 Feb .. paywalled article... same article that mentions the Viagra.....

Full disclosure here: we have hired Jubelin as a journalist, based on his vast experience in investigation, his history of fascinating cases and his storytelling panache.

 

[Chrissy74]

Drsleuth who attended the inquest, has told us that PS's son was *not* living with his parents at the time.


Australia - Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #51

Ok thanku

 

[JLZ]

This statement was in the article they printed on the weekend….. on 12 Feb .. paywalled article... same article that mentions the Viagra.....

Full disclosure here: we have hired Jubelin as a journalist, based on his vast experience in investigation, his history of fascinating cases and his storytelling panache.

Very interesting. Storytelling panache indeed. Sometimes it's all about what you keep back. I'm thinking of the way he kept Dan Box keen in following the Bowraville case, only for him to discover something crucial at the end which GJ knew all along. Box says it was his own fault for not investigating that aspect. I wouldn't have been so forgiving, myself.

Thank you.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

This is probably been discussed and hashed over, PS had met William on at least 2 occasions prior to Sept. 12. 2014? This is new for me, I didn't know he knew William. Would William run down to greet him?


Kendall resident Paul Savage had seen William Tyrrell on two occasions before his disappearance in 2014 and observed he had a close relationship with his foster parents, the coronial inquest into the three-year-old's disappearance has heard.
The inquest heard in 2013 Mr Savage visited a Christmas party hosted by a resident of Benaroon Drive.
Mr Savage said he observed the 'little fellow' (William) had a close relationship with his foster parents as he 'followed them around the party'. He said he had also seen William on one other occasion.
Neighbour asked what he saw on day William Tyrrell vanished


Is this the reason for the request by coroner for videos taken of search party? While Inspector Aldridge is speaking on camera, they pan left and PS can be seen heading up the road with other volunteer searchers, he turns to look at camera briefly.
Child missing at Kendall

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[Chrissy74]

The mail contractors, who deliver out of town, aren't the same people that serve behind the counter at the post office.

I’ve often thought about contractors in the area that morning and not necessarily postal.. 43 Benaroon was a vacant lot I believe which had tree removal and undergrowth works done..

 

[1968]

BBM It is an extremely disturbing thought.. but child sex offenders have been known to engage in such behaviours. In no way am I implying that PS fits into this category. IMO

Indeed an example is the creep who took little Kamille McKinney.
Even if we play devils advocate and assume the viagra was purchased for PS private use and not to molest small children - who would he be using it for? Wasn’t poor Heather quite unwell?
Actually answered own question. She was well enough to go to Bingo.

 

[stormyseas]

We often wondered if Spedding pulled up to the house on that lower driveway.

I still wonder if PS knew BS..

 

[Chrissy74]

You are not privy to his medical notes, so you don't know and neither does anyone else, IMO.
Believe whatever you want it doesn't matter to me.

I don’t feel like the good semaritan poking and prodding in someone else’s business.. giving and receiving information and ideas that’s what it is..

 

[Ms Kite]

I find it very interesting that the recently released news items show that police considered granting PS a section 61 certificate in the Coroner’s Court. This strongly suggests they believed he may have witnessed what happened to William. If that’s the case, then why wouldn’t he tell them what he knows? Or does it imply that police believed he was involved but wasn’t the main player? So many questions.. IMO

Perhaps the Section 61 offer never came to pass?

 

[1968]

Heaps of new details coming out, mainly about PS.
It seems like more revelations have come to light from Jubes’ case than from the darn coronial inquest!

 

[sleepinoz]

Perhaps the Section 61 offer never came to pass?

I doubt it did - (Paraphrased) - the article says it was a consideration that may be given that was noted on the investigation plan.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjBjdurn9jnAhW1guYKHU9ABFgQFjAHegQICxAH&url=https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/police-courts/cops-secret-immunity-offer-to-solve-william-tyrrell-case/news-story/a0699df42f3d2cd7728151525c44f92c&usg=AOvVaw2_KlP5se3HD4IrjClJYSms

 

[JLZ]

Perhaps the Section 61 offer never came to pass?

That's what I took from 'considered granting'--that it didn't happen--though it isn't actually said that it didn't. But, from reading the Section, it seems that in the first place the witness has to object to giving evidence on the grounds of self-incrimination. So it's not like the coroner speculates that the witness might be more forthcoming with a certificate and therefore offers one on her own initiative. Anyone who knows about this jump in, because I'm not in any way an expert.

CORONERS ACT 2009 - SECT 61 Privilege in respect of self-incrimination