Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #52

[JWSleuth]

JWSleuth,
Wouldn't a getaway be the first thing a guilty person considers? Do you mean that he might have been so caught up in the action of whatever the offence was that he couldn't think what to do? (If so, I think that would have made it more likely he would just follow through on his plan to drive to Casino: all he had to do was get in the Pajero and go.)

You would think that would be the logical thing to do, but nothing seems logical in this case...

 

[JWSleuth]

Woman charged for allegedly bombarding Tyrell's foster father with calls

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=639393086820921

Absolutely disgusting cannot even imagine how this would have felt... good on police for charging.

 

[Warshawski]

We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph

Over an eight-hour period last Monday, Dubbo mother Lisa Watmore allegedly called William’s foster father 14 times, despite never having met him.

Between 1pm and 9pm, she allegedly made the calls from different pay phones around her hometown.
Police allege Watmore claimed she knew what happened to William, who went missing from the Mid North Coast in September, 2014, and accused his foster father of being involved.


Wonder how she got the FF phone number??

The Sunday Mail article posed that very question Dr.

Just as an aside, the person who briefly appeared here just after Jub trial, in defence of PS, used the name Lisa. IMO ..

 

[Thebottomline]

Im sure they will get to that in the future,and so they should as its just disgraceful,hurtful and darn right cruel to continue plastering names and pics

It’s been there since last inquest, even when the coroner or whoever said they will come down on this, it’s a joke as far as I’m concerned.

 

[alj65]

Lisa Watmore says she knows what happened to William, but instead of going to the police (and claiming the $1 million reward), she thought harassing the FF on the phone was a better idea. *rolls eyes*
I'm glad she got charged.

 

[Thebottomline]

Those fools from a certain Sm page created by a fool who identified the bio family should be taken to task .

 

[alj65]

Those fools from a certain Sm page created by a fool who identified the bio family should be taken to task .

I agree.

 

[Thebottomline]

Lisa Watmore says she knows what happened to William, but instead of going to the police (and claiming the $1 million reward), she thought harassing the FF on the phone was a better idea. *rolls eyes*
I'm glad she got charged.

Idiot

 

[katydid23]

The Sunday Mail article posed that very question Dr.

Just as an aside, the person who briefly appeared here just after Jub trial, in defence of PS, used the name Lisa. IMO ..

I was going to say that too. Interesting...

 

[Hilly]

I watched the MFC walk through interview a longer version that I had not seen before.
I didn’t realise there was that open area going into Millers yard right near where William was playing and how easy it would be for him to run into their yard. I thought there was bush up there separating the yards.
I could see William running into yard especially if that big tree was on the ground that day fun to hide/climb on being Daddy Tiger.
I noticed a green swing set in the yard near clothes line not far from bush.
Could William have seen the swings and ran over to them.
Was someone in the bush/cemetery hear William roaring playing see him run over to swings grabbed him go bush then maybe to a car parked nearby.
Sorry if this has been discussed before I was just surprised about the open area going into Millers and the swing set would be hard to resist for a child.

Video: Foster father describes moments before William's disappearance | Daily Mail Online

 

[stormbird]

I watched the MFC walk through interview a longer version that I had not seen before.
I didn’t realise there was that open area going into Millers yard right near where William was playing and how easy it would be for him to run into their yard. I thought there was bush up there separating the yards.
I could see William running into yard especially if that big tree was on the ground that day fun to hide/climb on being Daddy Tiger.
I noticed a green swing set in the yard near clothes line not far from bush.
Could William have seen the swings and ran over to them.
Was someone in the bush/cemetery hear William roaring playing see him run over to swings grabbed him go bush then maybe to a car parked nearby.
Sorry if this has been discussed before I was just surprised about the open area going into Millers and the swing set would be hard to resist for a child.

Video: Foster father describes moments before William's disappearance | Daily Mail Online

Hilly,
There's also a shorter video (5:12) showing a few different parts of MFC's walk-through, including the location from where he saw FFC call the police.
I agree with you: IMO the swing set - and there's also a cubby or a garden shed near it - would have been an obvious place for William to run, especially if he had been able to see it from the eastern verandah at FGM's. (At about 1:15 in the video below the detective says "You've checked that doll house over there?" and motions towards the cubby; the swing set is to the left of that; the house is No.52.)

I'm guessing that William would have been too short to see the swings from FGM's himself, considering the slope of the hillside, but it's possible that at times he would have been carried around by MFC or FFC and he might then have been high enough? Or maybe the children had visited the swings on previous visits to FGM's?

5:12 version of MFC's walk-through: "William Tyrrell's disappearance inquest shown police video", Herald Sun

 

[Wexford]

We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph

Over an eight-hour period last Monday, Dubbo mother Lisa Watmore allegedly called William’s foster father 14 times, despite never having met him.

Between 1pm and 9pm, she allegedly made the calls from different pay phones around her hometown.
Police allege Watmore claimed she knew what happened to William, who went missing from the Mid North Coast in September, 2014, and accused his foster father of being involved.


Wonder how she got the FF phone number??

Unfortunately, it's not hard to find. As the previous chap who was prosecuted also found it. I think they are known to each other at the very least via social media groups anyway.

 

[JWSleuth]

Police should be onto this though. Surely there’s someone that monitors Sm. Particularly family members accounts.

Omg.. a whole Sm page of hate... Crazy! Fine to have an opinion but this is just outright hate and speculation..

 

[bearbear]

Unfortunately, it's not hard to find. As the previous chap who was prosecuted also found it. I think they are known to each other at the very least via social media groups anyway.

yes, i saw that, her public sm page looks normal and happy, nice family, but then theres a link to that other page which seems out of character?
if she really thinks she knows something why hasnt she reported to police, or maybe she has and they ignored her?

 

[peekinandy]

Thanks for the awesome timeline @drsleuth

I agree, it's not hard to find info on people, even when not using FB, but what mattes is your integrity and discretion - there's no need to publicly oust people or harass them. There is obviously something wrong with this woman...! so glad she's been found

 

[Hilly]

Hilly,
There's also a shorter video (5:12) showing a few different parts of MFC's walk-through, including the location from where he saw FFC call the police.
I agree with you: IMO the swing set - and there's also a cubby or a garden shed near it - would have been an obvious place for William to run, especially if he had been able to see it from the eastern verandah at FGM's. (At about 1:15 in the video below the detective says "You've checked that doll house over there?" and motions towards the cubby; the swing set is to the left of that; the house is No.52.)

I'm guessing that William would have been too short to see the swings from FGM's himself, considering the slope of the hillside, but it's possible that at times he would have been carried around by MFC or FFC and he might then have been high enough? Or maybe the children had visited the swings on previous visits to FGM's?

5:12 version of MFC's walk-through: "William Tyrrell's disappearance inquest shown police video", Herald Sun

Thanks for that version. I hadn’t seen that aerial of the bush track to cemetery. I agree he wouldn’t be able to see swing set from FGM yard. I didn’t even think about the back veranda view. I thought he would have had to be in Millers yard up near where tree is playing/climbing/then saw swings.

 

[peekinandy]

Thanks for that version. I hadn’t seen that aerial of the bush track to cemetery. I agree he wouldn’t be able to see swing set from FGM yard. I didn’t even think about the back veranda view. I thought he would have had to be in Millers yard up near where tree is playing/climbing/then saw swings.

From what we have been told his scent never left the boundary. There has not been much mention of the back boundary - leading to the cemetery, nor the front driveway, from the LE investigators at all? Makes me wonder if either boundary has meant something more - that LE has kept to themselves... They will always need to keep some details secret, usually, won't they?

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[Hilly]

From what we have been told his scent never left the boundary. There has not been much mention of the back boundary - leading to the cemetery, nor the front driveway, from the LE investigators at all? Makes me wonder if either boundary has meant something more - that LE has kept to themselves... They will always need to keep some details secret, usually, won't they?

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I always go back to the dogs not finding any scent past yard but I figure if GJ (respect) thinks William could have drowned in pool or hit while PS was reversing or HS he mustn’t be totally convinced with dogs search.
I went back through the older threads #34 looks like to me they searched around 52 yard and the side boundary bush leading to cemetery back in June 2018. Pavers and firewood. I have missed a lot of info :/
Secrets yes. Like white spider.

 

[Tinker Taylor]

I always go back to the dogs not finding any scent past yard but I figure if GJ (respect) thinks William could have drowned in pool or hit while PS was reversing or HS he mustn’t be totally convinced with dogs search.
I went back through the older threads #34 looks like to me they searched around 52 yard and the side boundary bush leading to cemetery back in June 2018. Pavers and firewood. I have missed a lot of info :/
Secrets yes. Like white spider.

Maybe GJ thought there had been too many people over the ground before the dogs arrived (I believe they arrived 2hrs after he was reported missing). Thing is, if WT did go outside of FGM's yard, and was lost in the bush, the dog would have most likely picked up his scent at some stage. The searchers could not have destroyed the scent in such a large area in that amount of time. Maybe if it had rained or if the wind was very strong then the dog would have struggled, but from what I understand it was just a normal day, so I'd put my money on the dog. Now, we are back to him having been picked up, maybe carried off but most likely in a vehicle, from 's yard.

Sorry, I don't understand what white spider means.

 

[Thebottomline]

Maybe GJ thought there had been too many people over the ground before the dogs arrived (I believe they arrived 2hrs after he was reported missing). Thing is, if WT did go outside of FGM's yard, and was lost in the bush, the dog would have most likely picked up his scent at some stage. The searchers could not have destroyed the scent in such a large area in that amount of time. Maybe if it had rained or if the wind was very strong then the dog would have struggled, but from what I understand it was just a normal day, so I'd put my money on the dog. Now, we are back to him having been picked up, maybe carried off but most likely in a vehicle, from ***'s yard.

Sorry, I don't understand what white spider means.

What’s *** mean