Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #57

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I don’t think LE would name foster parents as poi’s based purely on an avo against them at this point . Surely they’d have to have something more solid to state this. Look what happened with BS
 
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If the police are taking out an AVO - has to be likely violence occurred and likely it will continue - AVO are not made up
Correct, but could be taken out if violence is feared. If police think foster carers had something to do with WT disappearance there is definitely enough there to justify a fear of violence against the other child.
 
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The move to seek an AVO against the young boy’s foster parents follows an alleged assault on a child related to the missing boy, The Australian reports.

The allegations were brought to the attention of police within the last fortnight as part of ongoing inquiries in William’s mysterious disappearance from his grandmother’s Kendall home in September 2014.

Investigators are considering common assault charges after a child was allegedly identified with bruising.

The AVO case is scheduled to be heard in Hornsby Local Court on November 23.
 
  • #884
There has always been a division among the detectives about who could be the perp in this case.

Don't ask me where I read that ... it could have been Jubes' book, it could have been MSM ... but I think it was stated to be the reason that Jubes and Lambert had their blow up.

This is nothing new.
What is new is that there is a case for an AVO that has arisen in the last two weeks.

The new information that Laidlaw has stated has arisen happened several months ago.

imo
 
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Correct, but could be taken out if violence is feared. If police think foster carers had something to do with WT disappearance there is definitely enough there to justify a fear of violence against the other child.

Family Services would just remove the child. imo

If a child is deemed to be at risk, the child is removed.

Spedding's grandchildren were removed because they were deemed to be at risk from the allegations of child abuse and the extreme media presence, I believe.
 
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"There will be hundreds of police officers and other people engaged, there are a number of locations and a very high-intensity search planned, so that is the amount of people that we will require," he said.
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Detective Chief Superintendent Darren Bennet.

"This activity is in response to evidence we have obtained in the course of the investigation, not speculative in any way, we are acting on behalf of the coroner and in conjunction with the colonial orders.

"We would be providing daily commentary about what is taking place as you would understand, there is a large amount of work to be undertaken, we will be working specialist areas and people from outside the police force."

He said the operation is "not speculative in any way" adding, "I don't know who took William. We are hoping to find out throughout this investigation".

"It's highly likely that if we found something, it would be a body. We are looking for the remains of William Tyrrell, no doubt about that," he said.
Three specific locations of interest in search for William Tyrrell
 
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Do you know where this "Moore" is that she referred to? I can't find a street named Moore in the Kendall area.
me either no clue is no reference anywhere of a Moore
 
  • #889
I am so shocked atm I don't know what to think I feel like being sick in one way I pray the f family are not involved because I really believed they weren't but then I don't want to think some sicko did horrible things to this beautiful boy either way I feel so much sadness for poor William something horrible happened to him. I hope he is found and we have answers to what happened to this sweet innocent boy. Hopefully he will have justice and laid to rest. MOO
 
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What is Common Assault?

An assault is an act that causes another person to apprehend immediate and unlawful violence. While most assaults involve unwanted physical contact an assault does not necessarily require actual physical contact. All it requires it that the victim apprehends physical contact. So if, for example, a person raises his or her fist to another person, an assault could be found to have occurred, despite the other person not actually being hit. At law this is known as the distinction between “battery” (causing physical contact) and “assault” (causing the apprehension of physical contact).

Common Assault NSW - Charges, Penalties and Sentencing

Investigators are considering common assault charges after a child was allegedly identified with bruising.
AVO sought against William Tyrrell's foster parents for alleged child assault

I don't know what to think. Threats don't cause bruising.
 
  • #890
And The Australian news state this

"NSW Homicide Squad detectives have sought an apprehended violence order against the foster parents of William Tyrrell following an alleged assault on a child related to the missing boy"

ya can’t get clearer than that.
 
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"There will be hundreds of police officers and other people engaged, there are a number of locations and a very high-intensity search planned, so that is the amount of people that we will require," he said.
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Detective Chief Superintendent Darren Bennet.

"This activity is in response to evidence we have obtained in the course of the investigation, not speculative in any way, we are acting on behalf of the coroner and in conjunction with the colonial orders.

"We would be providing daily commentary about what is taking place as you would understand, there is a large amount of work to be undertaken, we will be working specialist areas and people from outside the police force."

Supt Bennett refused to comment about whether there was a person of interest but said it was "highly likely" that if they found something, it would be a body.

He said the operation is "not speculative in any way" adding, "I don't know who took William. We are hoping to find out throughout this investigation".

"It's highly likely that if we found something, it would be a body. We are looking for the remains of William Tyrrell, no doubt about that," he said.
Three specific locations of interest in search for William Tyrrell
BBM What does “not speculative in any way” mean? Does it mean the search is based on factual and verifiable information?
 
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Family Services would just remove the child. imo

If a child is deemed to be at risk, the child is removed.

Spedding's grandchildren were removed because they were deemed to be at risk from the allegations of child abuse and the extreme media presence, I believe.

That is correct SouthAussie.
Family Service would remove the child if any close members of the are facing court charges, as BS was and for some years had been forgotten that charges were impending.
Sadly even if AVO is not granted, Lindsay would be removed from Foster Parents after Court Session.
It is very possible within 24 hours even next few days she would be removed from Foster Parents before the Court Session. Forcing Child Services hand as it was made public before Court Date.
 
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If the foster parents are removed from the foster system, would their names then not be hidden?
 
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BBM What does “not speculative in any way” mean? Does it mean the search is based on factual and verifiable information?

I think it means that the searches are being done under Coronial orders.
The Coroner wants something(s) else checked out to her satisfaction.
 
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