Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #64

[JBowie]

It did get Bradley Robert pinned for the murder of Ciara Glennon and the vicious (dual) rape of KJG (name suppression) at Karrakatta Cemetery in 1995.

And in small towns, police have called for all males to give DNA samples for the purpose of elimination. That quickly whittles down the suspect list and puts enormous pressure on the guilty party/parties.

 

[DALRIADA]

Hmmm

 

[DALRIADA]

I feel the reason is that she doesn't actually know. I get a strong feeling that she was not on the back patio when William took off. I feel that she may have been inside attending to other things, leaving Nana temporarily in charge -- and Nana was reading the newspaper at the time and didn't notice either.

There's a strong motive for her, as a foster mother hoping to adopt, to not appear to have been grossly negligent whilst in charge of a 3 year old and therfore to reconstruct things to lessen that appearance without blaming her own mother in the process.

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YES!

 

[Marylouise911]

i agree with you, pois have come and gone but that feeling always stayed and i was alarmed when gary jubelin cleared them, then reassured myself it was just a strategy to make them trust him, but no, it wasnt, it feels weird being allowed to finally discuss it here though

I have been reading the older threads, particularly #30 - #45 (I’m still going but try and keep up with the latest as well) and I agree it must feel weird to even discuss timelines and inconsistencies now. I understand the MFC and FFC were “cleared” and “ruled out” at the time and were not able to be discussed but I’ve noticed whenever posters had genuine queries about the timeline or events of that morning (eg. people were asking about the drive the FFC took and what car it was in and when it could have happened back in 2019 and people were also asking about the drive to the airport fairly early in too), these comments were either ignored or shut down pretty quickly. I don’t see why trying to clarify what actually happened that morning was such a big issue. It definitely must feel weird for you bearbear as I know you were around then. Glad to see you have kept an open mind

 

[Violet77]

I have been reading the older threads, particularly #30 - #45 (I’m still going but try and keep up with the latest as well) and I agree it must feel weird to even discuss timelines and inconsistencies now. I understand the MFC and FFC were “cleared” and “ruled out” at the time and were not able to be discussed but I’ve noticed whenever posters had genuine queries about the timeline or events of that morning (eg. people were asking about the drive the FFC took and what car it was in and when it could have happened back in 2019 and people were also asking about the drive to the airport fairly early in too), these comments were either ignored or shut down pretty quickly. I don’t see why trying to clarify what actually happened that morning was such a big issue. It definitely must feel weird for you bearbear as I know you were around then. Glad to see you have kept an open mind

Wow, good effort reading through the old threads, all those twists & turns over the years!

 

[miss-criminologist]

Wow, good effort reading through the old threads, all those twists & turns over the years!

I started from #1 and got to #10. It's SO interesting going back. I really need to try to get through the rest but the constant new and interesting updates make it impossible to focus

 

[DALRIADA]

I have been reading the older threads, particularly #30 - #45 (I’m still going but try and keep up with the latest as well) and I agree it must feel weird to even discuss timelines and inconsistencies now. I understand the MFC and FFC were “cleared” and “ruled out” at the time and were not able to be discussed but I’ve noticed whenever posters had genuine queries about the timeline or events of that morning (eg. people were asking about the drive the FFC took and what car it was in and when it could have happened back in 2019 and people were also asking about the drive to the airport fairly early in too), these comments were either ignored or shut down pretty quickly.

You certainly noticed that correlation -
And what else does that say to you?

 

[Couldbe]

William Tyrrell's foster grandmother's neighbour still CERTAIN he saw boy on day he vanished | Daily Mail Online
In his description of the vehicles he said that he saw, this gentleman said the second vehicle, following close behind the landcruiser (that contained William up against the passenger window) was being driven by a male....at a reckless speed.

 

[FromGermany1]

Did she have feelings of inadequacy against her husband, the man who by her and all reports got along so famously with WT.

It would explain why no Intel was gathered by he voice taps that GJ apparently placed in their car. The ruse after all would be against her husband as well.

bbm
This perhaps. My intuition at least since a long time, if not from the start. IMO

 

[DALRIADA]

William Tyrrell's foster grandmother's neighbour still CERTAIN he saw boy on day he vanished | Daily Mail Online
In his description of the vehicles he said that he saw, this gentleman said the second vehicle, following close behind the landcruiser (that contained William up against the passenger window) was being driven by a male....at a reckless speed.

He said that, or was quoted to have stated that- INITIALLY!

 

[Marylouise911]

Wow, good effort reading through the old threads, all those twists & turns over the years!

Haha thanks, it hasn’t been easy reading I’ll say that! So many twists and turns! I have found it very interesting and in some ways it’s been helpful to see how the case is where it is today.

 

[Violet77]

I started from #1 and got to #10. It's SO interesting going back. I really need to try to get through the rest but the constant new and interesting updates make it impossible to focus

Oh it would be! All the theories that have been discussed! Best way to really understand the whole case as much as we can outside of the policeforce.

 

[Violet77]

Haha thanks, it hasn’t been easy reading I’ll say that! So many twists and turns! I have found it very interesting and in some ways it’s been helpful to see how the case is where it is today.

I bet, it would be a full time job but yes, definitely the best way to see how things have developed over the years

 

[JBowie]

He said that, or was quoted to have stated that- INITIALLY!

Here he is talking to police. If police had've put any weight on his story, they could have re-staged it and seen for themselves the likelihood of his observations being accurate.

(When asked why he did not alert police about the potential sighting until weeks later, Mr Chapman said he was waiting for police to come and interview him.

"The detective in charge made several announcements on TV that they were going to come and interview people within a 1-kilometre radius," he said.

"I was waiting for a knock on the door … it was several weeks later.

The inquest heard Mr Chapman was not formally interviewed by detectives for six months.)

Neighbour of William Tyrrell describes the day he disappeared

 

[Couldbe]

He said that, or was quoted to have stated that- INITIALLY!

Click on the link in blue, and you can then view the video...wherein he is actually describing himself (in his own words)!

 

[Jaded325594]

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I have been reading the older threads, particularly #30 - #45 (I’m still going but try and keep up with the latest as well) and I agree it must feel weird to even discuss timelines and inconsistencies now. I understand the MFC and FFC were “cleared” and “ruled out” at the time and were not able to be discussed but I’ve noticed whenever posters had genuine queries about the timeline or events of that morning (eg. people were asking about the drive the FFC took and what car it was in and when it could have happened back in 2019 and people were also asking about the drive to the airport fairly early in too), these comments were either ignored or shut down pretty quickly. I don’t see why trying to clarify what actually happened that morning was such a big issue. It definitely must feel weird for you bearbear as I know you were around then. Glad to see you have kept an open mind

My gut instinct from day 1 was that the parents were involved (before we knew they were foster carers). When the care arrangement became public, i was more convinced, but lost interest over the years with all of the endless POIs resulting in nothing. I might go back and read the early threads as well, would definitely be interesting.

They really have been a protected species by FACS, media, police and every single web/social media forum. I understand FACS and the inquest orders but the level of surpression and wiping the internet is extreme, when you consider similar cases involving foster kids. I think $$$ has definitely helped these people stay off the radar and quite possibly delayed an outcome for William!!

 

[Marylouise911]

You certainly noticed that correlation -
And what else does that say to you?

I don’t really want to say too much at this point but what I can say is that it makes absolute sense to me why the coroner has requested further investigation and why the FFC would be a POI. IMO

 

[sniffsniffcough]

Good find SA, clearly helmets with the bikes!

I don't think William is wearing a bike helmet in this photograph and the photograph was released by NSWPOL (logo in bottom left-side viewable in link). Obviously an adult was with William at the time! I wonder why NSWPOL chose this particular photo to release?

William Tyrrell: Inside privileged life of foster mother, why she hates Spiderman photo | Daily Mail Online

 

[Rumination1]

EVIDENCE- NOT SPECULATION !

CREDIBLE EYE-WITNESS TO KIDNAPPING OF WILLIAM TYRRELL (as many others here have argued!).

On the day in question, Kendall resident Mr Ronald Chapman (swears under oath?) at the recent inquest into the disappearance of William Tyrrell, that he most definitely saw the child in a speeding 4 wheel drive , with a blonde woman at the wheel followed by someone driving erratically in a blue/grey? vehicle who almost lost control of the speeding car whilst rounding the curb in the road.

This took place on LAUREL STREET KENDALL which is off Batar Creek Road, which runs into Benaroon Drive where the Foster family were staying with their relative. Laurel Street is a way to drive out of the subdivision leading to the Pacific Highway to Sydney- or North to Brisbane.

Mr Chapman swears that he is 100% sure that he saw William wearing the Spider-Man suit, standing UP in the rear of the 4 wheel drive. This question of vehicle / vehicles , makes and models must be speculative as Mr Chapman admits that he is a very bad identifier of actual makes and models of cars, however certainly knows a 4 wheel drive when he sees one . This incident occurred at the exact same time according to the witness, that William was said to have disappeared. Why has this evidence not been followed up and has Mr Chapman undergone HYPNOSIS in order to clarify details? He has been recognised as a credible witness, so why has this evidence been over-ridden in favour of the FPsDI? The Foster parents also owned a silverish grey four wheel drive and the FGM also owned a bluish grey Sedan (Mazda 3).

For those asking : Why the delay in reporting sighting?
Because he said he was informed that the police would be visiting ALL residents within a 1km radius of the home where William disappeared. He said he waited a few weeks for them to arrive. When they did not show up, he contacted them via an intermediary who was related to the local police area command. Then he waited AGAIN!
So the question here is : Was Mr Chapman dreaming or was this an actual sighting of a kidnapping in progress? HYPNOSIS may be the key here.

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SPECULATION

Unless of course, William had been seriously injured, falling from the balcony or tree, or smashing his bike on rocks after fleeing down the driveway out of control. Then had been placed into the rear of the FGMs car unrestrained, perhaps unconscious, and someone known to her followed on behind while they sped towards the nearest doctor or hospital? While driving perhaps he awoke, and stood up against the window, as Mr Chapman stated that he spotted the William with both hands up against the window pane. The speeding woman took no heed for his safety and Ron Chapman cursed under his breath that she was a / SILLY B**tch/ he said.

Arguably, under this scenario, William may have again slumped to the floor unconscious and they had to pull over; he didn't regain consciousness , and they then drove elsewhere to devise a cover story and bury poor William? Although this scenario would involve the FF vehicle as well, & he was proven to have left the area at around 9am...SO...

ALTERNATIVELY-Again speculation IMO-- William WAS Kidnapped by the blonde woman, and male companion who were possibly known to the extended bio family and who may have had concerns relayed from the biological mother, that William's bruising was of great concern and they wanted him out of there! As he seemed to be a very adventurous child the bruising was not necessarily assault, however in light of recent AVO restraints this week, that conclusion is debatable. I for one hope that the truth is with the second scenario and that William is still alive somewhere. There were arguably many many available friends and colleagues within William's extended bio family & friendship circle who might have been tempted to 'RESCUE' him, (and other unscrupulous individuals as well, for a cost $$$?)

Why aim to take WT only ? What about the sister???

 

[FromGermany1]

William Tyrrell's foster grandmother's police statement to inquest revealed | Daily Mail Online

For those who have not gleaned FGMothers imput at the inquest ..obviously it is a report of the statements only ...

From your link and remarkable for me:
She recalled how the foster carers had travelled up as she was in the process of selling her house as she needed something smaller.
She said William's foster parents were concerned 'that I was going to do the wrong thing, so they decided to come up to Kendall'.