Australia Australia - William Tyrrell Disappeared While Playing in Yard - Kendall (NSW) #78

[drsleuth]

Former prime William Tyrrell prime suspect says he knows who did it

A man once targeted as the prime suspect in the William Tyrrell case has accused the disgraced ex-Tyrrell task force head of ruining the investigation, saying it could have been solved.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Mr Savage also remembered the local whose behaviour was branded 'highly suspicious' by the podcast - but the concerns were dismissed by the pensioner.

'Yeah that old bloke who was living rough through the bush on the other side [of the property where William vanished],' Mr Savage told Daily Mail Australia on Wednesday.

 

[SouthAussie]

Former prime William Tyrrell prime suspect says he knows who did it

A man once targeted as the prime suspect in the William Tyrrell case has accused the disgraced ex-Tyrrell task force head of ruining the investigation, saying it could have been solved.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Mr Savage also remembered the local whose behaviour was branded 'highly suspicious' by the podcast - but the concerns were dismissed by the pensioner.

'Yeah that old bloke who was living rough through the bush on the other side [of the property where William vanished],' Mr Savage told Daily Mail Australia on Wednesday.

The man was investigated and questioned. That is how Jubes found the man had a 'shrine' of Jubes and William. Lots of photos (I think from articles) tacked up on his wall. He is the man who had dead animals hanging in his trees. They found no proof about William.

imo

 

[drsleuth]

The man was investigated and questioned. That is how Jubes found the man had a 'shrine' of Jubes and William. Lots of photos (I think from articles) tacked up on his wall. He is the man who had dead animals hanging in his trees. They found no proof about William.

imo

I wonder when he was first questioned & what his alibi was??

I also wonder if he has a friend called Lyn the person PS stopped to chat with who had a caravan?

 

[SouthAussie]

I wonder when he was first questioned & what his alibi was??

I also wonder if he has a friend called Lyn the person PS stopped to chat with who had a caravan?

Jubes started looking at him in 'the new year of 2016'. (I don't know if Rupp looked at him at all).

In "I Catch Killers" Jubes explains how the man's name kept coming up with the locals. And he worried Jubes. He said that the man's house looked like the bush had grown right over it. Bodies of dead animals strung up with string. His worry deepened when they saw the 'shrine' at the end of the man's bed ... a photo of William and quotes from Jubes taken from newspapers. The quotes said they would never give up on trying to find William.

Jubes suspected the man was an attention seeker. He was lonely and didn't want Jubes to leave his house. But they put him under surveillance.

Jubes asked an officer (Greg) to look at where they could place surveillance cameras on the man. And that is when Greg met Paul Savage and PS seemed overly interested in the case. Jubes said they had only just released to the media about the two cars that FM saw on Benaroon Drive and PS immediately started talking to Greg about the cars and how he had seen them sometime before William went missing (not that day).

(All from pages 269-270 of I Catch Killers by Gary Jubelin, kindle version)

 

[Wexford]

Former prime William Tyrrell prime suspect says he knows who did it

A man once targeted as the prime suspect in the William Tyrrell case has accused the disgraced ex-Tyrrell task force head of ruining the investigation, saying it could have been solved.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Mr Savage also remembered the local whose behaviour was branded 'highly suspicious' by the podcast - but the concerns were dismissed by the pensioner.

'Yeah that old bloke who was living rough through the bush on the other side [of the property where William vanished],' Mr Savage told Daily Mail Australia on Wednesday.

So Savage knows who did it, but it's not the bloke who was living rough?
And doesn't know why he was targetted instead?
Hmmm ok.

 

[drsleuth]

Jubes started looking at him in 'the new year of 2016'. (I don't know if Rupp looked at him at all).

In "I Catch Killers" Jubes explains how the man's name kept coming up with the locals. And he worried Jubes. He said that the man's house looked like the bush had grown right over it. Bodies of dead animals strung up with string. His worry deepened when they saw the 'shrine' at the end of the man's bed ... a photo of William and quotes from Jubes taken from newspapers. The quotes said they would never give up on trying to find William.

Jubes suspected the man was an attention seeker. He was lonely and didn't want Jubes to leave his house. But they put him under surveillance.

Jubes asked an officer (Greg) to look at where they could place surveillance cameras on the man. And that is when Greg met Paul Savage and PS seemed overly interested in the case. Jubes said they had only just released to the media about the two cars that FM saw on Benaroon Drive and PS immediately started talking to Greg about the cars and how he had seen them sometime before William went missing (not that day).

(All from pages 269-270 of I Catch Killers by Gary Jubelin)

Yes, but surely he was looked into before than.

Especially by Det Laura Beecroft ( she did so much work on this case ) which included :

She came on the case in Sep 2015

• Re Canvass of all off Kendall
• Re Interview everybody to check anything missed
• This included all people in township of Kendall and vehicles, including non - residents. Every house & business. Their status as renters / home owners / share houses etc. Not only people in Kendall that day but occupation of people past 12 months.
• She had an amazing spreadsheet that was extremely detailed ( annex A )
• Wanted to when & how all these people became aware of WT missing
• Took months to complete
• Developed POI packages - for more targeted inquires from a low threshold ( risk )
• Did a timeline Document ( # 262 )

Few interesting bits from x examination of Det Beecroft

McGory ( for PS ) - PS statement march 2015 & Interview 16/8/2017 , 20/9/17 video
walkthru

Swift ( For Bio dad ) : MFC left house @ 08:55

To me, it doesn't look like statements were taken of neighbours until months later???
Swift : MFC left house @ 08:55

 

[JBowie]

So Savage knows who did it, but it's not the bloke who was living rough?
And doesn't know why he was targetted instead?
Hmmm ok.

IMO, going by the reports of the litany of stupid things he said and did around Kendall, Savage is a nut case. Also IMO, Jubelin wasted too much time on him.

 

[drsleuth]

I commanded the Homicide Squad when William Tyrrell went missing

One of the nation's longest-serving homicide chiefs has rubbished allegations there was 'a pattern' of ignoring 'credible tips' on the whereabouts of missing toddler William Tyrrell.

www.dailymail.co.uk

One of the nation's longest-serving homicide chiefs has defended his former detectives against allegations there was 'a pattern' of ignoring 'credible tips' on the whereabouts of missing toddler William Tyrrell.

Former NSW deputy police commissioner Mick Willing said extensive resources - and countless man hours - had been dedicated to finding the three-year-old since he vanished during a visit to his foster grandmother's house in 2014.

 

[SouthAussie]

I commanded the Homicide Squad when William Tyrrell went missing

One of the nation's longest-serving homicide chiefs has rubbished allegations there was 'a pattern' of ignoring 'credible tips' on the whereabouts of missing toddler William Tyrrell.

www.dailymail.co.uk

One of the nation's longest-serving homicide chiefs has defended his former detectives against allegations there was 'a pattern' of ignoring 'credible tips' on the whereabouts of missing toddler William Tyrrell.

Former NSW deputy police commissioner Mick Willing said extensive resources - and countless man hours - had been dedicated to finding the three-year-old since he vanished during a visit to his foster grandmother's house in 2014.

Mick Willing shouldn't have said anything, he has only drawn more to attention to the podcast.

imo

 

[drsleuth]

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/one-minute-a-top-cop-the-next-minute-not-mick-willing-reveals-mental-health-struggles/news-story/b25e7c2738c435960df84e4e090abe20?amp

So how does NSWPF work!! Willing never got the job for Commissioner, so he was just than out of the force?? That doesn't make sense to me.

Did he go willingly or is there more to it?

The article says he was unceremoniously dumped from the force he served for 31 years & has been fighting his own demons since his very public sacking two-and-a-half years ago.

 

[JBowie]

Did he go willingly or is there more to it?

(no pun intended?)

Reportedly (in the DT) Webb believed that Wiling was responsible for leaking this story about Mal Lanyon, another contender for the role of Commissioner, although Willing denied it.

https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/Hansard/Pages/HansardResult.aspx#/docid/HANSARD-1820781676-86833/link/2255

 

[drsleuth]

(no pun intended?)

Reportedly (in the DT) Webb believed that Wiling was responsible for leaking this story about Mal Lanyon, another contender for the role of Commissioner, although Willing denied it.

https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/Hansard/Pages/HansardResult.aspx#/docid/HANSARD-1820781676-86833/link/2255

Thanks JBowie

Such a dirty , grubbie game, where sadly the victims & family suffer thru all this political crap & the race to the top, not caring whose lives they damage in the process, as long as it's all covered up.

The Siege inquest showed me just how dirty all these top cops play at not having to answer for their decisions, or lack of more like it, & hiding behind the top lawyers in the country to not have to give evidence etc

 

[SouthAussie]

Thanks JBowie

Such a dirty , grubbie game, where sadly the victims & family suffer thru all this political crap & the race to the top, not caring whose lives they damage in the process, as long as it's all covered up.

The Siege inquest showed me just how dirty all these top cops play at not having to answer for their decisions, or lack of more like it, & hiding behind the top lawyers in the country to not have to give evidence etc

Ironic. I guess Willing now knows how Jubes felt. What comes around, goes around.

 

[sleepinoz]

I have always thought that Mick Willing was one of the "good cops". He wasn't in charge of the Homicide Squad when Jubes was sidelined, it was Scott Cook that did the dirty at the time.

IMO

 

[SouthAussie]

I have always thought that Mick Willing was one of the "good cops". He wasn't in charge of the Homicide Squad when Jubes was sidelined, it was Scott Cook that did the dirty at the time.

IMO

Yes, I guess Mick Willing wasn't in charge of homicide when Scott Cook did the dirty. He had been moved to Head of Counter-Terrorism. I guess I am thinking he could have gone to bat for Jubes (as his former boss) but maybe he did, because Deputy Commissioner David Hudson told Jubes that he wouldn't be charged following the internal investigation.

Boss wanted to drop Tyrrell probe: Jubelin

Former William Tyrrell investigator Gary Jubelin has told a Sydney court his boss instructed him to drop the...

www.canberratimes.com.au

New NSW police squads adapt to changing patterns of crime

The state's biggest band of investigators – the 1000 detectives based in squads within the State Crime Command – have just gone through rigorous change as senior police look to streamline operations.

www.smh.com.au

 

[FromGermany1]

IMO, going by the reports of the litany of stupid things he said and did around Kendall, Savage is a nut case. Also IMO, Jubelin wasted too much time on him.

PS always seemed like a curious sly to me and a stalker also (FGM + the post employee). I bet, he knows the most of all, which were living on Benaroon Dr. I don't believe, he did something himself except watching people (using the info).

 

[sleepinoz]

Episode 2 is out:

Searching for Karlie | 2

Podcast Episode · Witness: William Tyrrell · S2 E2 · 50m

podcasts.apple.com

 

[SouthAussie]

PS always seemed like a curious sly to me and a stalker also (FGM + the post employee). I bet, he knows the most of all, which were living on Benaroon Dr. I don't believe, he did something himself except watching people (using the info).

Yes, I don't consider him harmless. Sly and a stalker seems right.
Threatening enough for an AVO against him to be granted.
Seems like a vindictive person.
And has not been made to answer for his eerie mutterings on the secret recordings.

imo

 

[katydid23]

Thanks JBowie

Such a dirty , grubbie game, where sadly the victims & family suffer thru all this political crap & the race to the top, not caring whose lives they damage in the process, as long as it's all covered up.

The Siege inquest showed me just how dirty all these top cops play at not having to answer for their decisions, or lack of more like it, & hiding behind the top lawyers in the country to not have to give evidence etc

And it seems to me that once a new 'leader' comes on to the scene, they have their own favourite suspect, and so the focus shifts to the new suspect, and the previous ones are then ignored?

 

[sleepinoz]

Here we are with Candice and PS again.

Astonishing claim about William Tyrrell's foster grandmother

The man once considered the prime suspect in William Tyrrell's disappearance has described how the boy's foster grandmother harassed him.

www.dailymail.co.uk