Australia Australia - William Tyrrell Disappeared While Playing in Yard - Kendall (NSW) #79

[drsleuth]

I think Dan Box is quite accomplished in his own rights

He has authored 5 Books, Carry Me Home, Bowraville, I catch Killers, Badness & The Man Who Wasn't There

His Podcasts are Bowraville , Bloodguilt & now Witness : William Tyrrell

For his Bowraville book he was the Winner of the Ned Kelly Award for True Crime.

For the Bowraville podcast he won a Walkley award

Dan Box, Eric George and Stephen Fitzpatrick - The Walkley Foundation

www.walkleys.com

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News Corp Australia appoints Dan Box as editorial director of audio​

by Mediaweek
Posted on 1 March 2023

“I’m really excited to be back at News and working with some of the best journos in the country”


News Corp Australia has announced the appointment of journalist Dan Box as editorial director of audio for NewsCast, the company’s on-demand audio arm.

In this new role, Box will work alongside the company’s newsrooms to develop true crime audio programming as the business continues to build on Crime X, its audio-only true crime subscription offer available through Apple Podcasts.

This includes commissioning and creating audio programming to complement the award-winning podcasts produced by News Corp Australia’s mastheads.

Box will also executive produce the company’s I Catch Killerspodcast and work closely with host Gary Jubelin to drive the franchise’s growth, including developing future audio investigative serials with Jubelin.

Seems they have a professional relationship over many years.

News Corp Australia appoints Dan Box as editorial director of audio

News Corp Australia has announced the appointment of journalist Dan Box as editorial director of audio for NewsCast.

www.mediaweek.com.au

 

[iiiii's]

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News Corp Australia appoints Dan Box as editorial director of audio​

by Mediaweek
Posted on 1 March 2023


Box will also executive produce the company’s I Catch Killerspodcast and work closely with host Gary Jubelin to drive the franchise’s growth, including developing future audio investigative serials with Jubelin.

Seems they have a professional relationship over many years.

News Corp Australia appoints Dan Box as editorial director of audio

News Corp Australia has announced the appointment of journalist Dan Box as editorial director of audio for NewsCast.

www.mediaweek.com.au

Respctfully snipped and bolded by me.

 

[LolaAngelina]

Respctfully snipped and bolded by me.

You just reposted the original post and bolded a section? I don’t see your point?

 

[SouthAussie]

I think Dan Box is quite accomplished in his own rights

For his Bowraville book he was the Winner of the Ned Kelly Award for True Crime.

For the Bowraville podcast he won a Walkley award

Dan Box and Greg Bearup also won the award for Feature Writer of the Year for this article about William's disappearance, back in 2015.

How could toddler William Tyrrell simply vanish into thin air? also this link Australian Crime News

Australian scoops News awards

 

[iiiii's]

Dan Box and Greg Bearup also won the award for Feature Writer of the Year for this article about William's disappearance, back in 2015.

How could toddler William Tyrrell simply vanish into thin air? also this link Australian Crime News

Australian scoops News awards

Yes, that was a great article at the beginning of the investigation. I haven't seen Dan Box covering this story up until recently though, I didn't spot him nor Caroline Overington at the inquest and I was in the media room for a week at one stage. I wonder if besides getting access to court documents if they have other journos come in and transcribe. I saw a lot of transcribing of proceedings going on at the time.

 

[SouthAussie]

Yes, that was a great article at the beginning of the investigation. I haven't seen Dan Box covering this story up until recently though, I didn't spot him nor Caroline Overington at the inquest and I was in the media room for a week at one stage. I wonder if besides getting access to court documents if they have other journos come in and transcribe. I saw a lot of transcribing of proceedings going on at the time.

Because he moved to the UK for a few years to work for the BBC and the Sunday Times.
I remember it, because I was sad to see him leave this case at the time.

 

[iiiii's]

https://www.news.com.au/national/cr...d/news-story/8ff09c596126cbe773b59191c1fe7a2e

When told one of the strike force detectives, Sean Ogilvy, had given evidence in a court saying she declined to give police a witness statement, the woman said, “I was never asked.

“I did not decline. I was never asked. I was never ever asked to provide that statement.”

I guess we'll never know as it really comes down to he said, she said.

 

[Lemony]

https://www.news.com.au/national/cr...d/news-story/8ff09c596126cbe773b59191c1fe7a2e

When told one of the strike force detectives, Sean Ogilvy, had given evidence in a court saying she declined to give police a witness statement, the woman said, “I was never asked.

“I did not decline. I was never asked. I was never ever asked to provide that statement.”

I guess we'll never know as it really comes down to he said, she said.

It would be documented in Ogilvy's interview notes, or in his police diary if she was asked for a statement at a later time.
If she did actually decline, police should be able to produce evidence of that. IMO

 

[SouthAussie]

We don't know the context in which Ogilvy said that ... but I think it is probable that he was questioned on why he didn't get statements from FM's friends, and his answer was they declined to give them.

I can't imagine the police getting written statements from people who actually know and support the FM - said good things about her and the family - when the police were trying so hard to portray her in a negative light.

Another friend (in the podcast) was so afraid the police would cut and snip her words in her verbal interview that she fought to get a transcript of the interview.

imo

 

[Marg944]

dbm

 

[SouthAussie]

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The friend said she no longer trusted the police, and she was the friend who had wanted to be a police officer at one point.
She said that because she got the impression, during her interview, that the police had their story and they were trying to make it fit.

imo

 

[iiiii's]

We don't know the context in which Ogilvy said that ... but I think it is probable that he was questioned on why he didn't get statements from FM's friends, and his answer was they declined to give them.

I can't imagine the police getting written statements from people who actually know and support the FM - said good things about her and the family - when the police were trying so hard to portray her in a negative light.

Another friend (in the podcast) was so afraid the police would cut and snip her words in her verbal interview that she fought to get a transcript of the interview.

imo

That's correct, when submitting evidence to prosecute someone, the police usually submit evidence that supports the charges. Character references etc. are usually submitted by the defence. There are number of reasons for the discrepancy about the statement, either she declined to give one and then has lied , there has been some type of mistake (which the defence did not pick up on or challenge), or she gave a statement and the police couldn't use it for their case, so they both lied or he has lied about her declining and never asked. Too late now to fix it, the time to do so was in court when his credibility could have been challenged. The context for that information being given in court is purely speculative as well. I think I summed it up accurately about your last sentence when I described the friend's attitude as paranoid. MOO

 

[SouthAussie]

That's correct, when submitting evidence to prosecute someone, the police usually submit evidence that supports the charges. Character references etc. are usually submitted by the defence. There are number of reasons for the discrepancy about the statement, either she declined to give one and then has lied , there has been some type of mistake (which the defence did not pick up on or challenge), or she gave a statement and the police couldn't use it for their case, so they both lied or he has lied about her declining and never asked. Too late now to fix it, the time to do so was in court when his credibility could have been challenged. The context for that information being given in court is purely speculative as well. I think I summed it up accurately about your last sentence when I described the friend's attitude as paranoid. MOO

That's what I meant about not knowing about the context. It could have been the defence that asked Ogilvy the question. In other words, the defence might have asked why the police did not get any corroboration from friends ... in the context that the police were trying to determine a "pattern".

To me that makes more sense than someone is lying to Dan Box, when she just didn't have to speak with him if she didn't want to.

imo

Magistrate McIntyre said there was no finding of a pattern of violence
Thread 78, post 660

 

[Wexford]

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The friend said she no longer trusted the police, and she was the friend who had wanted to be a police officer at one point.
She said that because she got the impression, during her interview, that the police had their story and they were trying to make it fit.

imo

BBM: some might say that she had every right to be concerned as she probably saw what occurred with previous POI's as well who, some might say, were also looking like they would be 'thrown under the bus'.

 

[LolaAngelina]

That's correct, when submitting evidence to prosecute someone, the police usually submit evidence that supports the charges. Character references etc. are usually submitted by the defence. There are number of reasons for the discrepancy about the statement, either she declined to give one and then has lied , there has been some type of mistake (which the defence did not pick up on or challenge), or she gave a statement and the police couldn't use it for their case, so they both lied or he has lied about her declining and never asked. Too late now to fix it, the time to do so was in court when his credibility could have been challenged. The context for that information being given in court is purely speculative as well. I think I summed it up accurately about your last sentence when I described the friend's attitude as paranoid. MOO

BBM - You are speaking in general terms? They have not submitted evidence to charge FM, nor is there any charges in regards to WT.

 

[iiiii's]

BBM - You are speaking in general terms? They have not submitted evidence to charge FM, nor is there any charges in regards to WT.

They submitted evidence in court proceedings resulting in the FM being convicted or intimidation and assault of a child. A part of the brief of evidence or submissions from the defence would have centred around police interviews, statements and references with and from her friends.

 

[LolaAngelina]

They submitted evidence in court proceedings resulting in the FM being convicted or intimidation and assault of a child. A part of the brief of evidence or submissions from the defence would have centred around police interviews, statements and references with and from her friends.

That’s not what the friend was talking about. She was clearly referring to Williams case.

 

[sleepinoz]

Just because someone adamantly declares something, doesn't mean I will just accept what they are saying.

RSBM - I believe this to be true to what is said in MSM, on Podcasts and especially by the current Strike force.
I don't accept much of it.

 

[iiiii's]

That’s not what the friend was talking about. She was clearly referring to Williams case.

Then, in which court did Ogilvie claim that this person declined to make a statement? The investigation and interviews In my opinion are intertwined. One court case occurring as a subsequence of another investigation. Moo

 

[SouthAussie]

Then, in which court did Ogilvie claim that this person declined to make a statement? The investigation and interviews In my opinion are intertwined. One court case occurring as a subsequence of another investigation. Moo

I think the NSWCC. Hearing in 2021. She says she had spoken with the police about William's disappearance but she was never asked to make a statement.

She did provide a written reference in the Oct 2021 charging of the FM about the other matter.

https://www.news.com.au/national/crime/ridiculous-explosive-william-tyrrell-claim-exposed/news-story/8ff09c596126cbe773b59191c1fe7a2e