AZ AZ - Adrienne Salinas, 19, Tempe , 15 June 2013 - #1

[Janeumayer]

And if she called the boyfriend that night and said she was on her way over, why didn't HE report her missing when she didn't show up??? Why did it take her family to do it because she didn't call her father on Fathers Day??? Something ain't right about this. IMO

Because most boyfriends at that age suck. They are still kids and do not think about anything but how annoying girls can be at that age. MOO

I was one of those girls :wink:

 

[Seajay]

Sorry to say this but I think the most likely scenario is that she was taken, possibly raped, and killed. Given the emotional state she was in, upset and confused, and drunk, and given that she must have been walking around for an hour or longer in the middle of the night, and she probably wasn't on guard ... sadly it's the most likely conclusion imo.

That's my line of thinking. I was thinking back to when I was her age. Having a fight with your boyfriend, being drunk, angry, in an accident and out alone at night, I would have been focused on who to blame for the mess I was in and not paying rapt attention to my surroundings. Being out alone that time of night is not smart but at that age, we think we wear armor and nothing can hurt us. We take risks and make bad choices at times like that. IMO.

 

[ozgirl70]

Has her phone been found?

There seems to be too much time between the accident, the call for a cab, and the text to the bf. What was Adrienne doing for all that time?

I think it's possible somebody else called the cab and sent the text.

JMO though. And since the bf is apparently not a suspect, I don't have one.

:moo:

 

[CuriousGuy]

Because most boyfriends at that age suck. They are still kids and do not think about anything but how annoying girls can be at that age. MOO

I was one of those girls :wink:

Touche'

 

[TxLady2]

I'm sure there is more to the story, I have never heard of hitting a curb so hard it popped your tires (plural, as in more than one)?

I thought it was the median, not just one curb. If she hit a median head on, say at an intersection, it could blow both tires out. Sometimes you can hit a solid object hard enough that it bends the rim, causing the tires to pull loose from the rims, and lose the air in them immediately. Had this to happen to me once coming home from work late one night and got distracted and hit the curb. But it was just one tire, not two.

 

[Public_Hysteria]

I'm still leaning towards either random foul play, or she is on the run and the girl that was found has something to do with why.

Snipped for space.

I think these are definitely the most likely two scenarios. I'm leaning more towards a random attack though - as others have pointed out, she was possibly under the influence, she was upset and fighting with her boyfriend, and had just had a car accident... even if she were sober, the other two factors combined would be enough for her to not be in the right state of mind to completely take in her surroundings. Unfortunately, she would have been a fairly easy target for someone with bad intentions. And if her disappearance is somehow related to the dead girl that was found a short while away, it makes the situation far more complicated. I wish we had more to go on with this one.

I'm hoping LE have far more information than has been released at this point, because this one could possibly be very difficult to solve. I hope she's on the run because she saw something that scared her, at this point I believe it's the best possible scenario (going by the info that has been released so far).

 

[mamacita]

video at this link, father says there was no damage to the body of the vehicle, just that the tires were flat and one rim was bent pretty badly.

the reporter also said that police said "someone called the taxi company from her phone" note that they didn't say SHE called the taxi company!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/20/adrienne-salinas-missing-arizona_n_3471678.html

 

[mamacita]

Pooley said that a passerby tried to render assistance after witnessing the accident, in which the car struck a median, but the car sped away. He said police cannot say with any certainty who was driving.

http://www.azcentral.com/community/...sing-tempe-student-search-continues-abrk.html

 

[Knox]

mamcita, thank you for posting the above. I've been busy while following this case, so haven't been able to focus completely on the details.

I wonder now if Adrienne was alone in the car? Some of the details above could indicate, someone yanked the wheel which caused the accident. Speeding away when someone stopped to offer help, could be to avoid contact because whatever was going on in that car was bad.

I once saw a couple fighting in a car while driving, it was a very scary thing to witness. Could this be what happened to Adrienne that night? But the call for a cab doesn't really fit into that scenario, plus there would have to be someone else with an additional car. Maybe not such a good theory?

 

[Elainera]

Would the cab company be able to confirm if she made the call or if it was a male voice, for example?

I find it quite suspicious that her car sped away when the witness tried to offer assistence.

 

[Tonto]

If they can't confirm she was driving at the time of the accident, or that she called the cab, then it muddies the timeline significantly. Have they ID'd or commented more on the girl found dead in the street at an intersection a few miles south of where Adrienne was? She was purportedly found during the general time that Adrienne was out and about. Has anyone reported another twenty year old girl missing in that general area?

I still feel like these two cases are related somehow. The timing, locale, and circumstances would make it incredibly tough to be coincidental. I suppose it could be though, but it would be odd.

 

[WideOpen]

I hope they have taken dogs out.

I was a passenger in a truck accident once. We had both been drinking heavily. To avoid a DUI arrest we both got out and walked about 1 1/2 miles to the persons house. I carried a large metal tool box from the back of the truck with a broken pelvis and a punctured lung. I had no clue I was injured. I was not feeling the pain. He passed out (in a dead coma) when we got to his home and I remember trying to sleep but somehow had the sense to wake his roommate and have him take me to the hospital. I was in the hospital a week.

My point is, after drinking heavily and having an accident its hard to say if there are injuries. I keep thinking maybe she crawled into a hiding spot to sleep or rest for a few and succumb to her injuries.

jmo

 

[Knox]

Are any of Adrienne's friends or family talking about this on facebook or elsewhere? If so, clue please. Suprising that the news has trickled to nothing these past few days.

Here is the latest I could find on the murdered girl-

Police are hoping a Monday autopsy will help them identify the “very brutally murdered” young woman whose naked body was found Saturday morning in a Tempe neighborhood.

“We are starting from pretty much nothing” and need help from the community in solving the case, Pooley said. “We have gotten a lot of tips. None of them have panned out to be anything.”

The nature of the crime has also shocked the community.

“She’s a young female, and the way she was displayed in the neighborhood, it shocks the conscience,” Pooley said. “We don’t know if it is a crime of passion or if there is a message being sent.”

He said the victim suffered “very severe trauma,” but he added that it would compromise the investigation to describe the woman’s injuries in greater detail.

Police believe the woman was slain elsewhere and dumped Saturday in the 1900 block of East Minton Drive, a quiet, middle-class neighborhood, for unknown reasons.
http://www.azcentral.com/community/...e-autospy-body-of-woman-found-naked-abrk.html

Doesn't sound like they have a clue who she is, heartbreaking to think no one has reported her missing.

ETA-More here
http://www.azcentral.com/community/...et-police-circulating-photos-dental-work.html

 

[LivingJuicy]

http://www.azcentral.com/community/...sing-tempe-student-search-continues-abrk.html

Mamacita, you still with me that she wasn't driving? :rockon:

 

[mamacita]

Mamacita, you still with me that she wasn't driving? :rockon:

yes! for the most part. i mean, it COULD have been her.. if it was, she probably just panicked and left and didn't want to get in trouble. but the fact that it can't be verified makes me wonder if LE has the same feeling we do.

 

[Tonto]

Here is the latest I could find on the murdered girl-
Doesn't sound like they have a clue who she is, heartbreaking to think no one has reported her missing.

ETA-More here
http://www.azcentral.com/community/...et-police-circulating-photos-dental-work.html

After reading this article, I am beginning to sense that there could be an even darker relationship between these two cases. I mentioned it in passing a few pages ago, but we could very well have a serial killer on the loose. He could have kidnapped this unidentified girl awhile ago and from virtually anywhere (which is probably why no one in the area seems to be missing anyone, and why police haven't connected the dots yet). When he dumped this girl at the same general time and in the same general location as where and when Adrienne was out having her issues, he could have then driven by and saw her out walking. She fits the general profile of the dead girl, and this could have triggered him.

JUst speculation, but these cases are bugging me. The stars would have had to align perfectly for them not to be related.

 

[chinacat67]

After reading this article, I am beginning to sense that there could be an even darker relationship between these two cases. I mentioned it in passing a few pages ago, but we could very well have a serial killer on the loose. He could have kidnapped this unidentified girl awhile ago and from virtually anywhere (which is probably why no one in the area seems to be missing anyone, and why police haven't connected the dots yet). When he dumped this girl at the same general time and in the same general location as where and when Adrienne was out having her issues, he could have then driven by and saw her out walking. She fits the general profile of the dead girl, and this could have triggered him.

JUst speculation, but these cases are bugging me. The stars would have had to align perfectly for them not to be related.

But the unidentified girl has braces per reports and it doesn't appear AS does in any of the photos on her FB or in the media.

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[chinacat67]

But the unidentified girl has braces per reports and it doesn't appear AS does in any of the photos on her FB or in the media.

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Sorry-I misunderstood but see on second read see what you are seeing and totally agree! Very frightening prospect!

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[Tonto]

Sorry-I misunderstood but see on second read see what you are seeing and totally agree! Very frightening prospect!

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Yeah, I hope LE are considering the possibility. I also hope they got DNA off of the initial victim. If she was naked, it's likely a sex-related crime. Since it was a) described as brutal, and b) LE would not list many details, then it could very well be a ritualistic type killing.

Also, I should add that since it is in AZ that the dead girl could be from Mexico. Not likely since she appears to have all of the comforts of an American teen (braces, etc.) but entirely possible. Also, the fact that she has braces leads me to believe that she has a stable family that cares about her regardless of where she is from. Someone somewhere has reported her missing at some point, and she hasn't been missing long with orthodontics (at most a year or so?).

 

[margarita25]

Are any of Adrienne's friends or family talking about this on facebook or elsewhere? If so, clue please. Suprising that the news has trickled to nothing these past few days.

Here is the latest I could find on the murdered girl-
Doesn't sound like they have a clue who she is, heartbreaking to think no one has reported her missing.

ETA-More here
http://www.azcentral.com/community/...et-police-circulating-photos-dental-work.html

I have started a thread here for this young lady; here is the link:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9591085#post9591085