AZ AZ - Adrienne Salinas, 19, Tempe , 15 June 2013 - #1

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  • #461
Sorry if this has been answered, I'm trying to play catch up with this case. Didn't she call for the cab from her apartment? Why would she not feel safe enough to wait there, if she felt safe enough to live there? And how is it any safer to walk dark streets in the wee hours of the morning to get from her apartment to a convenience store?

This story makes absolutely ZERO sense.

Maybe wanted to check her car again on her way to the AMPM?

Maybe bc the party was full of underage kids she didn't want the cabbie to show up waiting there and risk him rattle telling on the party?

Idk.
 
  • #462
I am hesitant to post the actual address of the apartment complex, but it is between where her car was found and the AM/PM she planned to meet the cab at. All of the locations in the case are equally as strange to me.

In regards to George, I doubt he was at the party. My initial reaction is that he and Adrienne seem to be from far too different of crowds and I don't feel like he could had just walked through the door (the apartments are not large and I truly feel he would had been noticed) I also believe that some sort of connection would had been clarified if this was the case. The timelines in the cases do line up so that it is plausible that George was in Adrienne's area during the time. It would only take 10-15 minutes to get from Baseline/Rural to Hardy/University. I find that such an odd coincidence, especially if Begay's body was found shortly after being left. A lot would have to line up to tie the two cases together, but I really feel it shouldn't be counted out. With the statement that Begay's death was brutal and the way the body was disposed of, I find it hard to believe that George would be experiencing fear or remorse. My knowledge regarding Begay is only what I've seen in the news.

MissDemeanor, is this the runaway you turned up? If so, this girl is only 16, Annovedwin was identified as being 23. I do see some resemblance, however. Strange in correlation with the fact that I find very little regarding an "Annovedwin Begay-Barakzai" on the web, aside from her case. One of her public posts on her facebook, however, states that she was spending time with a brother. Maybe I'm reading into it too much, but we could take this piece of info to her thread.

Very interesting that Adrienne had a collapsed lung. Wouldn't she had to have sustained some sort of trauma, especially at such a young age? I am very curious about the cause- maybe abuse? Perhaps the relationship with her boyfriend was more tumultuous than I originally believed. That information could provide a lead.

But perhaps do you think he was waiting outside the party in his car at the parking lot? Maybe watching the party and partygoers going to and from the party?
 
  • #463
How common is it for a cabbie to call someone he is picking up? Why did he have her phone number in the first place? He talked to her at 5:06 and she said she would be there in a minute. He got there at 5:07 and she was never seen again and her phone was dead a mere one minute after their convo.

????????????

I never like to say everything is set in stone but imo the number of persons in the group, contact phone number, pickup location, and drop off location is requested by the dispatcher and forwarded to the driver. The driver will call and keep in contact with the patron-should things change on either end. Things dont always run smoothly and better to have direct communication.


jmo
 
  • #464
Just not feeling the cab driver being involved at this point. Don't forget - they have him on video at the AMPM at the times of those quick back and forth calls.
 
  • #465
Oh dear, this will confuse the timeline again!



Not at 5:05 as we all thought!

It makes more sense though. She called her bf 11 times just after 4 and when he didn't answer, she called a cab. I always wondered why she would wait almost an hour to call a cab.

Just not feeling the cab driver being involved at this point. Don't forget - they have him on video at the AMPM at the times of those quick back and forth calls.

Do they? Has that been released? Are we positive there was video surveillance with the cab driver on it?

She was a minute away at 5:06........
 
  • #466
  • #467
Tried to link an article, but the link isn't allowed.

Basically, the article from today states that Tempe police have confirmed that DNA has been taken from cab driver and his home has been searched. Obviously LE is keeping all options open. Good to know.
 
  • #468
Tried to link an article, but the link isn't allowed.

Basically, the article from today states that DNA has been taken from cab driver and his home has been searched. Obviously LE is keeping all options open. Good to know.

I provided the quote and link yesterday that LE had searched cabbie's house and took DNA and that cabbie is NOT a Person of interest NOR is he a suspect.
 
  • #469
Tried to link an article, but the link isn't allowed.

Basically, the article from today states that Tempe police have confirmed that DNA has been taken from cab driver and his home has been searched. Obviously LE is keeping all options open. Good to know.

This is incorrect.

"Simon said they have searched his son's home, and Friday police took a DNA sample. Tempe police have not named the cab driver as a person of interest or suspect."

http://www.kpho.com/story/22709539/cab-company-owner-retraces-calls-with-missing-teen

^^^
 
  • #470
From this link:

"Rick Salinas found Adrienne’s car at about 2 p.m. on June 15, with two flat tires, only two blocks from her Tempe apartment. He reported her missing that afternoon.

Police described the case as follows:

Adrienne’s boyfriend drove her to his home in Scottsdale, where they continued to argue. He drove her home to Tempe, but they continued to argue and she jumped out of his car a couple blocks away from her apartment.

Adrienne told her roommates at 3 a.m. that she was going to drive back to her boyfriend’s apartment and packed a change of clothes in a large purse.

"

sooo the boyfriend didn't really "take her home"
Odd comings and goings here.
She hopped out of his car prior to getting to her apartment & didn't call the cab to pick her up there either?
She called the boyfriend (or someone did) 11 times and he didn't answer?

Is this still the story ?

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  • #471
Please refer to Begay Barakzai's thread as I have written there that I believe she was abducted after going to Tempe for college from the Navajo reservation.

I believe That George Made her go by a different last name and wear abaya to conceal her identity!
 
  • #472
This is incorrect.



^^^

What I stated is absolutely NOT INCORRECT!

And how is what I quoted ANY different from what you just said, except in your article, the dad is being quoted, and in my article the police are quoted.

The article that I attempted to link stated exactly what I said. If they have just searched and obtained DNA then they have a reason to do so.
 
  • #473
My car key isn't on the same ring as my house keys; they kept catching on my knee when I was driving, plus I didn't want to keep taking keys on and off if I was going somewhere and not taking the car.

My point is she had no reason to bring her car key with her bc her car had been wrecked and both tires were flat.

She had no use for the car key once she had gotten back from moving her car after wrecking it.

I think she called the cab after the wreck Just After moving her car around 4:27 am. thinking she was just going to go straight from where she moved her wrecked car to her bf in Scottsdale, she tells cabbie to just meet her at the AMPM.

But then she decided after calling to walk back home instead and change her clothes and drop off her car key. This would take maybe 15 minutes tops.

By the time she had gotten home and changed it was nearly 5 am and the cabbie had already been waiting at the AMPM since 4:47am (20 minutes after her call for the cab).

She feels bad that she is late to meet the cabbie, so she doesn't want to annoy him with asking him to find her complex and decides to have someone sober from/around the party to drop her to meet the cab at AMPM?
 
  • #474
I would think if the cab driver refused to give DNA and cooperate with police and instead sought legal counsel and stopped talking ... This would indicate more of a likelihood of the cab driver being a suspect.

Jmo

I guess they were also checking his home/cab for her DNA too?
To make sure she hadn't been in his home or cab.
I wonder if she had an "ex" boyfriend. It sure sounds like she was avoiding someone that night or trying to. (another girl maybe ?)
5am and headed off to the boyfriend who isn't responding to messages... At that point why not stay home -
at 19 I doubt I would have either .
19 was a LONG time ago for me.
I do know I would not have taken a cab. (I have never been in a cab )
We didn't have many in our area.

I am not thinking cabbie or the boyfriend...

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  • #475
I'm very big on making sure that pol do not assume guilt upon a person who is cooperating with LE and that LE has clearly stated is not a suspect or person of interest.

To even entertain he is connected at this point just seems unfair.

Sorry. Just want us to make sure we strike out the suspects we have considered when we have been given clear indication by LE that they are innocent.

Not doing so just further complicates the facts and our theories based on said sound facts.
 
  • #476
I guess they were also checking his home/cab for her DNA too?
To make sure she hadn't been in his home or cab.
I wonder if she had an "ex" boyfriend. It sure sounds like she was avoiding someone that night or trying to. (another girl maybe ?)
5am and headed off to the boyfriend who isn't responding to messages... At that point why not stay home -
at 19 I doubt I would have either .
19 was a LONG time ago for me.
I do know I would not have taken a cab. (I have never been in a cab )
We didn't have many in our area.

I am not thinking cabbie or the boyfriend...

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I agree with you completely.

LE has basically ruled out the cabbie, the boyfriend, and Adrienne's father as suspects or POI.

If she had been drinking then a cab was probably the best option for her.

Also I'm sure IMO that she was shook up after the wreck and would just want a sober cab driver to get her to Scottsdale to her BF safe.
 
  • #477
Anyone thinking "girls" are involved? Not necessarily her room mates. The whole wallet in the apartment... AS came back but the roomies didn't see her...
I know there are plenty of reasons she might not have taken a wallet... it just seems to me like something happened at the party.
Maybe I watched "Mean Girls" too many times!

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  • #478
Additionally, She probably didn't want anyone from the party that had been drinking to drive her to AMPM to meet the cabbie, thus decided to walk from her apartment.

Imo
 
  • #479
How can you have a suspect if you don't even have a body? It would seem ludicrous to me for police to state that a person is even a person of interest if they have no body and no evidence of a crime.

So even if they suspected that someone might have had something to do with her disappearance I don't think they would or perhaps COULD indicate they suspected them.

So far there is only an abandoned vehicle, phone calls to a boyfriend, call for a taxi but no showed and a text to boyfriend saying she was coming over.

There is no evidence yet of any kind of foul play.

She could still be alive somewhere....
 
  • #480
How can you have a suspect if you don't even have a body? It would seem ludicrous to me for police to state that a person is even a person of interest if they have no body and no evidence of a crime.

So even if they suspected that someone might have had something to do with her disappearance I don't think they would or perhaps COULD indicate they suspected them.

So far there is only an abandoned vehicle, phone calls to a boyfriend, call for a taxi but no showed and a text to boyfriend saying she was coming over.

There is no evidence yet of any kind of foul play.

She could still be alive somewhere....

Very true.

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