AZ AZ - Adrienne Salinas, 19, Tempe , 15 June 2013 - #1

[margarita25]

Police have searched the house of the cabbie and also took an DNA sample. For what??? To match to what?

http://kpho.membercenter.worldnow.c...cab-company-called-by-missing-teen-speaks-out

I believe this is standard for anyone who could be involved, so that later on if her body or other evidence is found and there is DNA, they have people to compare that DNA against in order to rule them out. It's like when Jessica Ridgeway disappeared, LE took DNA from all RSOs in the area before she was found (edit: actually, in hindsight, they had her backpack already which ended up having evidence bc her clothes were in there ).

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Footage of the boyfriend is on the vid here:
http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/20130624missing-tempe-woman-reward.html

To me, he seems to be telling the truth.

The reporter says his name, Francisco -something-

I am soooo behind...

So please forgive me if this has been addressed...

but..... Why did it take until 2:00 p.m. The following day for someone (Adrienne's dad) to find the car... When 9-1-1 was called at sometime around 4:00 .a.m. By an outsider at scene of accident?

TIA...:seeya:

 

[SandSage]

The building she lives in is smack dab in the middle of the downtown Tempe "strip" that extends from Priest to McLintock on Apache road and the reason for this is because it is right next to the Light rail. The light rail is used to commute from Mesa-Tempe-Phoenix and subsequently services both the main and downtown ASU campuses as well as going directly to gateway CC (her school). Due to this and the fact that AZ has a relatively low cost of living it culminates into a kind of paradoxical area filled with students in affordable housing as well as drunks/druggies/etc so as you can imagine it makes for a kind of stratified and obtuse melting pot. When it was stated by 2hip that it is creepy more than unsafe that is entirely the case because you NEVER hear of this type of crime occurring in Tempe especially kidnappingr/disappearance/murder. She would 100% absolutely have to be abducted or left in car because the area is densely populated and not only is this a college town that area SPECIFICALLY is known Friday/saturday parties going into the late hours (even to 4am). This is a significant fact in my reasoning of this incident as the area though in some ways undesirable is generally an extremely safe town especially considering the 24/7 activitity. The kidnapping or running away would have to be executed really quickly and quietly considering the area which is why its hard to believe that a) it actually occurred the way we are being led to believe and b) there is absolutely no trace of her. Its absolutely absurd in fact because i went by the general area last night around 3am and there were at least 5 people on each block or at the worst a couple cars around. No witnesses or reports of screams or ANYTHING? Sorry that is just preposterous to suggest. Yeah the area is poorly lit and tthere's a quite few many bad alleys or dark spots but its nothing of an area you'd expect a kidnapping or disappearance to happen. This is what leads me to the belief that we were meant to falsely believe she was headed towards AMPM when in fact she was probably at the apartment or already in the clutches of whomever responsible. This was planned... at least it had to have been somewhat thought up.

There was a post on her page about missing the light rail not long ago... I wonder if the light rail is a possibility. Heck, at this point ANYTHING is a possibility. I wonder if anyone has looked into the security cameras at the platforms in her area. Longshot.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Hope this helps you guys with your mapping:

Her car that she walked to her apt from after moving it was on Brown and Roosevelt.

Her apartment complex is on the corner of Hardy and Brown.

Also I will give a link to verify this as police have been searching around her complex for clues.

I personally believe she was abducted walking through her complex to the AMPM.

The AmPM is on UNI and Hardy about 1 block south of her complex (really is a longer block, but still close to the AMPM.)

http://www.google.com/search?q=tempe+az+AMPM+locations&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari#mldd=1


"Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:52 PM
Tempe police and Maricopa County sheriff’s deputies on Saturday morning were conducting an extensive search where a missing 19-year-old college student may have disappeared two weeks ago.
The Sheriff’s Office had set up a command post near Hardy Drive and Brown Street and more than 30 deputies and police officers were searching the area in the case of Adrienne Salinas. They were stopping pedestrians and asking them if they had seen any strange activity they see around June 15 when Salinas disappeared.
“People might not have seen anything suspicious, but that’s just as important to our investigation,” Sgt. Michael Pooley said. “We have very limited information to continue our investigation. That’s what’s frustrating.”
Deputies and officers were also searching Tempe Town Lake, digging through bushes and searching abandoned buildings as they looked for clues.
Last week, Tempe police said they were consulting with the FBI to make sure they are doing everything possible find Salinas.
Salinas’ family and friends washed cars and collected donations Saturday morning at the Circle K at Hardy Drive and University Drive, a block away from where she is thought to have gone missing.
“[Her disappearance] has turned my world upside down,” said Rick Salinas, Adrienne’s father. “We’re raising funds for donations, mainly for a reward for anyone who knows about her whereabouts.”
The group has raised about $8,000 since Salinas disappeared and donations can be made at any Wells Fargo in Arizona, he said.
Brandi Heimburg, 20, graduated with Salinas at Arcadia High School and stood on a corner near the car wash, collecting donations and passing out flyers.
“It’s just really surprising,” Heimburg said of Salinas’ disappearance. “I’m going to be more aware when I’m walking. You just don’t expect it to happen to you.”
Salinas attended a party in Tempe with her boyfriend the night of June 14 and had been drinking. She and her boyfriend got into an argument at the party. The boyfriend drove her to his home in Scottsdale, but they continued to argue so he drove her home.
The last time anyone reported seeing Salinas was early in the morning of June 15. Her roommates told police that she packed an overnight bag and said she was driving back to her boyfriend’s home.
But the boyfriend told police that Salinas never arrived. A witness reported seeing Salinas’ car hit a median near her apartment. Rick Salinas found the car two blocks away on Saturday with two flat tires and reported his daughter missing to police.
Later the morning of June 15, Adrienne Salinas repeatedly called the boyfriend, but was unable to reach him, shortly after 4 a.m. She eventually sent him a text message at 4:43 a.m., saying “I’m coming over.’’
The boyfriend told police that she never arrived. Police say said there has been no trace of her since 5:05 a.m. that morning, when she called a cab, but a cabdriver was unable to find her. Her cell phone turned off at 5:07 a.m.
Anyone who has seen Salinas or knows anything about her disappearance is asked to call Tempe police at (480) 350-8311. She is 5 feet 6 inches tall, weighing about 110 pounds, with black hair.
Republic reporter Jim Walsh contributed to this story."

http://www.azcentral.com/community/...oman-search-adrienne-salinas-arizona-brk.html

 

[SandSage]

I personally believe she was abducted walking through her complex to the AMPM.

The AmPM is on 1st and Hardy.

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The AM/PM appears to be on Hardy and University (opposite direction of 1st and Hardy)?

ETA: There are a couple of Instagram photos showing AM/PM drink cups... it appears she frequented the place.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

To give you guys an idea of how safe I felt in the area Adrienne vanished: I use to do midnight skateboard rides up and down those back streets from 18-21 years old.

Not one time did I feel unsafe or like I was being watched. And I was a slow and typically drunk/stoned skateboarder lol.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Yes sorry! I will modify my post! (brain fart thank you for catching me on it omg!) THANK YOU!

The AMPM is on UNI and Hardy!!!!!!

 

[SandSage]

Yes sorry! I will modify my post! (brain fart thank you for catching me on it omg!) THANK YOU!

The AMPM is on UNI and Hardy!!!!!!

Are you KIDDING?! Thank YOU for working all the locations out! I lived at 12th and Ash and 9th and Maple. I only vaguely remember the area AS lived in because 99% of the time I was loaded when I was there. Case in point. If you wanted a house party, that's where you headed. We walked EVERYWHERE and never felt unsafe. With the temperatures as high as they have been (even on Father's Day), the joggers, walkers, early risers were almost definitely out and about... she HAD to be with someone she felt safe with because someone would have noticed her struggling. There were undoubtedly people awake and on the streets. I still get a sick feeling when I see that boarded up house; not saying she is there, but might have been at some point. Speculation. It's all I've got.

 

[goblinsolo]

the sunday right after this was reported, my initial thoughts and what i think now, HAS NOT changed. being in the area, riding thru again and again, my mind doesn't swim with confusion and fear of the unknown monster, it keeps pointing to one thing. i've had a neighbor raped/murdered in tempe in the 1990s, right down the street from my place a guy was killed and thrown in a dumpster. near this missing girls' locations as known from media, i've wandered many times and seen a fair share of creeps, drunks, and people up to zero good. Things happen, we can't be naive to the weird dangerous random stranger, BUT.... this case, its leaning to one event of that night. the fiesta...

1. the people at this college party, its very very easy to imagine it as a regular get together, but i would venture to say that we are not just talking about innocent 19yr old college kids. the mixture in tempe is anything from small time drug dealer, wannabe gangsters, to real deal hard individuals, to hipsters, and naive women as well. anyone with even an inkling into profiling, can take quick looks at the fb/insty and past histories and draw your own conclusions. i have mine, and this isn't the 'hills', from cocaine, under aged drinking, etc it was probably going on there IMO. what does that mean? it means, that shady people, are known to them, involved in their lifestyle and at any moment it can go very sour and dangerous.

2. the 9/11 caller said THEY THEM, and told that dispatcher that their was potentially 2 people in this car. to me, this might be the biggest hole in the case that needs to be filled.

3. surveillance shows the cabbie going to conv. store and not picking up anyone. it fits the timeline...

4. something happened in that 5-507 min window; and it could be so many different scenarios that it is pure theory to even figure it out, IF we do not know the following.
a. WHEN SHE CRASHED, and abandoned car, was she in that car alone?

5. the police/fbi waited TOO LONG to mobilize and scour the hood. i was out on my bike and foot, on sunday the day after. i've been out there 3 more times; why did it take 2 wks? They didn't even send in dogs til yesterday? you won't find a leaf in that neighborhood sticking around for over 2 days. hell, some people don't even live in that part of tempe for 2 wks. For a 19yr old girl, who just got in a small accident, who POSSIBLY was drinking/or even doing drugs, who was exhausted most likely from fighting w her guy friend, who had surgery in february, AND then abandons car, locks it up perfecto, takes a day bag she packed prior, and then dissapears?

Aside from ALL that could go wrong, the window and lack of physical evidence (that we have been told, by police/media,) doesn't show anything violent happening at her car that was locked other than an accident. So, we are left w a 7 min window, perhaps less, where she called cab, and her phone went muerto. My gut says, this was someone known to her or at the very least, close to her in the prior hrs.


This is not a bad part of town, BUT that people act like its just some typical college area with 100s of security cams and a community that actually cares, it isn't. 'snitches get stiches' and you can bet some at her party adhere to that particular gang lingo. w/o a doubt.

this girl has a story that will be told. What is unfortunate, is that those who know parts of it, won't talk about it. A prior forum member spoke towards the party goers and how they are being shady and not disclosing info, I don't know where that info came from, but it strikes me as strange JUST as much, as the roommate being completely aloof, ignorant, and down right dishonest in her interview. Yet, she knew all the details of case, somehow. the accident, the tires popped. where this girl was going, that she called a cab? this was EARLY in the case, like sun/mon after the saturday. SHE didn't go looking for her dear roommate. the guy w the 11 calls and txt, DIDNT GO LOOKING, the dad did. thats it. and he saw the car, abandoned. w tires popped. not roommate...no one but dad.

Was the roommate with her? was someone else? go back to 9/11 calls.... possibly two in that car during accident. thats hard EVIDENCE, thats not just a guess by me or a forum member thinking it might be possible. its the caller who saw the accident. its very important to this case..

at end of day, the FBI and cops are on to this; i sat next to 7 of tempes' finest w my gf last night at a mexican restaurant. perhaps they will figure out some lead, some new piece of info, AND i think its gonna come from a salinas inner circle. ONE OF THEM has to know more than whats being told.

IF we all can come up w rational theories, based on this forever changing info, than surely one of her friends' can show a backbone, get off the mollys, stop playing mute, and speak up about the people who are responsible. but, there is a reason they don't....

 

[Autonomik]

"Her cell phone was found"

http://www.azfamily.com/news/Washin...y-to-find-missing-Tempe-woman--213705401.html

wait WHAT why is this info being haphazardly filtered through vague articles? We need a press conference from LE now!!!

 

[goblinsolo]

autonomik,,, i do believe we are not being told info, because their is something going on here that we are not privy to, or her safety is a concern if public knows too much as to who/what did this.

the 'facts' and timeline, and location(s) are impossible to follow, for a reason.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

the sunday right after this was reported, my initial thoughts and what i think now, HAS NOT changed. being in the area, riding thru again and again, my mind doesn't swim with confusion and fear of the unknown monster, it keeps pointing to one thing. i've had a neighbor raped/murdered in tempe in the 1990s, right down the street from my place a guy was killed and thrown in a dumpster. near this missing girls' locations as known from media, i've wandered many times and seen a fair share of creeps, drunks, and people up to zero good. Things happen, we can't be naive to the weird dangerous random stranger, BUT.... this case, its leaning to one event of that night. the fiesta...

1. the people at this college party, its very very easy to imagine it as a regular get together, but i would venture to say that we are not just talking about innocent 19yr old college kids. the mixture in tempe is anything from small time drug dealer, wannabe gangsters, to real deal hard individuals, to hipsters, and naive women as well. anyone with even an inkling into profiling, can take quick looks at the fb/insty and past histories and draw your own conclusions. i have mine, and this isn't the 'hills', from cocaine, under aged drinking, etc it was probably going on there IMO. what does that mean? it means, that shady people, are known to them, involved in their lifestyle and at any moment it can go very sour and dangerous.

2. the 9/11 caller said THEY THEM, and told that dispatcher that their was potentially 2 people in this car. to me, this might be the biggest hole in the case that needs to be filled.

3. surveillance shows the cabbie going to conv. store and not picking up anyone. it fits the timeline...

4. something happened in that 5-507 min window; and it could be so many different scenarios that it is pure theory to even figure it out, IF we do not know the following.
a. WHEN SHE CRASHED, and abandoned car, was she in that car alone?

5. the police/fbi waited TOO LONG to mobilize and scour the hood. i was out on my bike and foot, on sunday the day after. i've been out there 3 more times; why did it take 2 wks? They didn't even send in dogs til yesterday? you won't find a leaf in that neighborhood sticking around for over 2 days. hell, some people don't even live in that part of tempe for 2 wks. For a 19yr old girl, who just got in a small accident, who POSSIBLY was drinking/or even doing drugs, who was exhausted most likely from fighting w her guy friend, who had surgery in february, AND then abandons car, locks it up perfecto, takes a day bag she packed prior, and then dissapears?

Aside from ALL that could go wrong, the window and lack of physical evidence (that we have been told, by police/media,) doesn't show anything violent happening at her car that was locked other than an accident. So, we are left w a 7 min window, perhaps less, where she called cab, and her phone went muerto. My gut says, this was someone known to her or at the very least, close to her in the prior hrs.


This is not a bad part of town, BUT that people act like its just some typical college area with 100s of security cams and a community that actually cares, it isn't. 'snitches get stiches' and you can bet some at her party adhere to that particular gang lingo. w/o a doubt.

this girl has a story that will be told. What is unfortunate, is that those who know parts of it, won't talk about it. A prior forum member spoke towards the party goers and how they are being shady and not disclosing info, I don't know where that info came from, but it strikes me as strange JUST as much, as the roommate being completely aloof, ignorant, and down right dishonest in her interview. Yet, she knew all the details of case, somehow. the accident, the tires popped. where this girl was going, that she called a cab? this was EARLY in the case, like sun/mon after the saturday. SHE didn't go looking for her dear roommate. the guy w the 11 calls and txt, DIDNT GO LOOKING, the dad did. thats it. and he saw the car, abandoned. w tires popped. not roommate...no one but dad.

Was the roommate with her? was someone else? go back to 9/11 calls.... possibly two in that car during accident. thats hard EVIDENCE, thats not just a guess by me or a forum member thinking it might be possible. its the caller who saw the accident. its very important to this case..

at end of day, the FBI and cops are on to this; i sat next to 7 of tempes' finest w my gf last night at a mexican restaurant. perhaps they will figure out some lead, some new piece of info, AND i think its gonna come from a salinas inner circle. ONE OF THEM has to know more than whats being told.

IF we all can come up w rational theories, based on this forever changing info, than surely one of her friends' can show a backbone, get off the mollys, stop playing mute, and speak up about the people who are responsible. but, there is a reason they don't....

Oh man you are right on here.

I think you literally transported me back to a hardy party. Flashbacks.

You are completely correct about the parties being full of a diverse and eclectic individuals from many backgrounds of life. Gangster Cholos, hipsters, kids just off the reservation, kids from ASU, neighborhood kids used to the transient atmosphere of tempe in general.

There was ALWAYS pot at those parties. Yes and many times other drugs like coke. Party drugs. Both would bring in dealers many times.

From innocent hipster girlies to thugs with records, they all party together.

And I mean it seemed like a pretty open door policy at most of those parties, did it not?

I'm sure you know about the present state of these parties more than I as it has been a little time since I partied in Tempe.

(I do remember now one instance of having to take a knife away from a guy who had done mushrooms at a party and was threatening to stab people. I grabbed the knife (little me!) and threw it in the drawer and stood Infront if the knife drawer declaring "thou shall not pass!")

I had two instances at parties over in that area of my wallet being stolen even though I had hidden it and kept up with it all night. Both parties I remember had a revolving door of guests from a social and economic stratas.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Goblinsolo- I have a feeling that LE was so preoccupied with the Begay-Barakzai case that they neglected to initially pay attention to Adrienne.

But even LE announced after finding Barakzai's body that they knew there was a suspect on the run who was extremely violent and could harm another that night,

so why they didn't even consider that Adrienne's disappearance was of utmost important considering that sane night a violent murderer was running around Tempe is beyond me.

But LE are doing the best they can. Bless the FBI for aiding.

IMHO. Moo.

 

[Tonto]

I'm afraid that the cell being found now takes voluntary absence off the table. We were already leaning towards foul play, but this pretty much solidifies it in my mind.

Suicide (God forbid) is still a possible scenario, but I think with knowing what we know the chances of that are at about 5%.

IMO.

 

[SandSage]

Cell phone was "found" WHERE?!

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

"Her cell phone was found"

http://www.azfamily.com/news/Washin...y-to-find-missing-Tempe-woman--213705401.html

wait WHAT why is this info being haphazardly filtered through vague articles? We need a press conference from LE now!!!

I agree. Where was her cellphone?


I'm assuming if they are searching and questioning around Hardy and Brown that her cellphone might have been found there? Maybe the cellphone being left there indicated to LE that Adrienne could have been abducted/assaulted at that specific location??

Moo

If we only knew where the Cell was found!

 

[goblinsolo]

the party and what happened AND who was there, is poignant.

the accident and IF she was with someone, changes the entire storyline of the last few mins before her phone went off. (and now the phone was found!?)

you can easily go to her fb and then track back to her friends/family. i havent done her insty as im not on instagram. but, if ANYONE has the link to it, we would all like to see her past posts/comments. AND who remarked on her pics, as well.

i think the cops/fbi are behind the times, i really do. there was some model mayhem young girls abducted in colorado, and reading the police and medias' moronic ramblings was frustrating.

this case can be blown open with good ol' police work. you talk to all the people at the party, and friends. you sit em down and find out what was going on that night.

if they don't wanna talk, and '*****es get stiches,' you follow their movements and what is going on in their social media... the one thing about the younger gen is that they POST EVERYTHING on fb/insty thinking its private, and its not...Posting violence, drug abuse, who they are sleeping with, what they are thinking, EVERYTHING. If they assault someone, they post a vid on youtube... the answer to finding a salinas, is right there. its just a matter of putting the puzzle together.

thats, if its what some of us are feeling it is; that its a person known to her.

IF, somehow, in a 2 min window (isnt that her last phone call to cab,) and her phone going dead, she was taken by a freddy krueger, then so be it and no amount of our sleuthin' can figure that out. BUT if its the other scenario(s) then something has to give.

and the cops are gonna have to be the muscle to get these party kids to speak up. someone knows something more than what they are saying.

 

[jenniferst]

"Her cell phone was found"

http://www.azfamily.com/news/Washin...y-to-find-missing-Tempe-woman--213705401.html

wait WHAT why is this info being haphazardly filtered through vague articles? We need a press conference from LE now!!!

I wonder if it was found, or a reporter made a 'leap' with LE having the information on when her texts were sent- assuming they had the phone instead of the phone records.

 

[goblinsolo]

it went dead at 507am. right?

now, she last made calls/txts from 5-05? is that right?

a phone doesnt go dead by being dropped or left somewhere. perhaps she abandoned it when it went dead; like, threw it in anger?

even if a possible person somehow apprehended her, the cell going dead doesn't just happen by proxy of a stranger taking her?

or, was it turned off? is that the same as it going dead?

the cell phone of a young girl is 2nd only to losing ones' life, its that important as ridiculous as it seems. all the private info contained therein, its like losing an eye. its that vital. IF she was seperated from her cell, and the media isn't saying WHERE the cell was found, yet... well, this just points further and further towards an abyss of a conclusion.

 

[margarita25]

"Her cell phone was found"

http://www.azfamily.com/news/Washin...y-to-find-missing-Tempe-woman--213705401.html

wait WHAT why is this info being haphazardly filtered through vague articles? We need a press conference from LE now!!!

I wonder if it was found, or a reporter made a 'leap' with LE having the information on when her texts were sent- assuming they had the phone instead of the phone records.

Indeed, could be the case of misreporting?

However, if her cell phone was found, and LE isn't telling us where, then this is interesting, and completely different than Tim Bosma's case, where they revealed the location of where the cell was found to the public.