AZ AZ - Adrienne Salinas, 19, Tempe , 15 June 2013 - #1

[goblinsolo]

ok! based on that, no mention of going back home.

lets simplify this.

1. packed stuff, left house, last talked w roommates, etc to go to bfs house
2.accident
3.left car
4. dissapeared


when she called her bf, when she called cab, we have specific times.. 5:05 was call to cab, then 507 phone is dead

WHAT TIME was the 911 accident call?
what time did she txt her bf? and the 11 calls to him?
can we at least pinpoint when she got in accident and made those calls?>

 

[goblinsolo]

2hip, after 1st street, why not go to farmer and then to 5th back to hardy/apt? thats the most direct route. but, we are playing nxt day quarterback, who knows what was going on in her head, or whomever was driving./

wilson, yes. makes sense. cutting thrown brown, not so much. but she might of! sure.

farmer, if car starts sputtering or having issues driving, sure she could of just pulled off and ditched car too.

i dont know if any of that matters, other than she left car in that vicinity.

automik is presenting the scenario im leading towards, and the 505 am call to cab, and then her phone goes kaput... and then..???

 

[Autonomik]

I think most accounts allow you to view phone activity online, her parents probably could pull up her current billing cycle. LE probably looked at the BF's phone for text detail, and since the phone was turned off or stopped working soon after, they may be presuming those were the last texts.

True but the logs for an internet account on the phone are hardly definitive certainly not solid enough to be relied upon as accurate info when looking into a missing person. I have had tons of texts and calls not record onto the website info, plus LE definitely would have to look into getting info from the carrier/towers due to the fact that the phone (if indeed still missing) could have been turned on briefly or something strange like that post-disappearance.

 

[goblinsolo]

oh, and direct link to her instagram... http://www.instacn.com/u/adriennnnne__/

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

2hip, after 1st street, why not go to farmer and then to 5th back to hardy/apt? thats the most direct route. but, we are playing nxt day quarterback, who knows what was going on in her head, or whomever was driving./

wilson, yes. makes sense. cutting thrown brown, not so much. but she might of! sure.

farmer, if car starts sputtering or having issues driving, sure she could of just pulled off and ditched car too.

i dont know if any of that matters, other than she left car in that vicinity.

automik is presenting the scenario im leading towards, and the 505 am call to cab, and then her phone goes kaput... and then..???

I'm assuming she didn't take farmer bc taking it south still would have put her out further/given her a longer trek.

Also I think she'd want to stay off of farmer as there are more cars/pedestrians.

Maybe she feared her wrecked lemon driving down farmer would get more attention and could get the attention of a police officer. Then she'd surely get busted for a DUI. I also think she wanted to avoid 5th street as much as possible bc it's less of a residential rd and more people/cops might see her driving the wrecked car while drunk.

IMOO

 

[Autonomik]

2hip, after 1st street, why not go to farmer and then to 5th back to hardy/apt? thats the most direct route. but, we are playing nxt day quarterback, who knows what was going on in her head, or whomever was driving./

wilson, yes. makes sense. cutting thrown brown, not so much. but she might of! sure.

farmer, if car starts sputtering or having issues driving, sure she could of just pulled off and ditched car too.

i dont know if any of that matters, other than she left car in that vicinity.

automik is presenting the scenario im leading towards, and the 505 am call to cab, and then her phone goes kaput... and then..???

After going specifically to the areas of interest in AS' disappearance I have to agree with your account regarding her direction and movements because other routes are incconvenient and implausible. We know she knew the area and needed to get either home or to her BF because of the frantic reaction she would have had to have after her car was destroyed. Also who calls 11 times in a row unless somewhat mildly distressed. I still think she wasnt in possession of the phone when the text to the BF was made for many reasons but primarily because we all know how people text and she certainly wouldnt have settled for waiting to reveal her destroyed vehicle to her boyfriend until she got to his place. At the least she would have made a generic reference to the accident through tet to gain his attention since she called 11 times and wanted to get his attention clearly. The cab call and texts are conveniently the last activities on her phone and both throw her location in a completely unique direction which to me seems like both too vague and too specific to have been coming from anyone other than someone deliberately sabotaging any possibility of finding out her ACTUAL last known location. Remember "snitches get stitches"? Somebody is keeping people quiet out of fear of reprisal for revealing info regarding AS disappearance.

 

[goblinsolo]

farmer, is most definitely a good straight shoot to 5th from 1st. no stop lights, no cross streets. it would actually be quickest way back to her house, instead of stop signs/and cross streets of the residential wilson/roosevelt.

its also, not well lit, or patrolled. it runs along the train tracks, and compared to the ash/rio salado its pretty private. and seperate from the mill ave hoopla.


i dont know why she skipped that street, and went to wilson to brown. or farmer, or anywhere else. but, she WASNT TRYING TO GET HOME at this point.
we need to remember that. she was headin to her bfs house. but, car crashed and rather than keep going to scottsdale on 2 tires, she got the idea to get a cab to go to ampm for her...
so, she abandons car before her apt, why DIDNT SHE wanna go back home?
why, the ampm?

confusement, sets in again

 

[mamacita]

in many of her pictures on fb and instagram she's wearing a silver bow necklace. i wonder if she was wearing it the night she went missing?

also - i find it hard to believe that out of 40 people there that no one seems to have posted a picture of her from that night?!

 

[mamacita]

in many of her pictures on fb and instagram she's wearing a silver bow necklace. i wonder if she was wearing it the night she went missing?

also - i find it hard to believe that out of 40 people there that no one seems to have posted a picture of her from that night?!

 

[goblinsolo]

in many of her pictures on fb and instagram she's wearing a silver bow necklace. i wonder if she was wearing it the night she went missing?

also - i find it hard to believe that out of 40 people there that no one seems to have posted a picture of her from that night?!

pics of everything, and no pics that night!?!?! RIGHT! u know there were.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

farmer, is most definitely a good straight shoot to 5th from 1st. no stop lights, no cross streets. it would actually be quickest way back to her house, instead of stop signs/and cross streets of the residential wilson/roosevelt.

its also, not well lit, or patrolled. it runs along the train tracks, and compared to the ash/rio salado its pretty private. and seperate from the mill ave hoopla.


i dont know why she skipped that street, and went to wilson to brown. or farmer, or anywhere else. but, she WASNT TRYING TO GET HOME at this point.
we need to remember that. she was headin to her bfs house. but, car crashed and rather than keep going to scottsdale on 2 tires, she got the idea to get a cab to go to ampm for her...
so, she abandons car before her apt, why DIDNT SHE wanna go back home?
why, the ampm?

confusement, sets in again

It's a straight shoot BUT IT takes longer to go down farmer and end up all the way east on 5th.

Am I the only person seeing this or am I going crazy????!

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

in many of her pictures on fb and instagram she's wearing a silver bow necklace. i wonder if she was wearing it the night she went missing?

also - i find it hard to believe that out of 40 people there that no one seems to have posted a picture of her from that night?!

Eerie Mamacita. I was just wondering the same thing about the necklace.

No joke.

 

[Autonomik]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/06/2...woman-disappearance-as-family-holds-out-hope/

"Salinas and her boyfriend got into what the father calls a small argument"

Okay so we know her father wouldnt definitively put that out there unless he was convinced it was not a big argument and we all know how dramatic our teenage romances can get with the introduction of even a tad bit of alcohol in our system, making me believe the boyfriend is cleared. I keep thinking that possibly a few less than savory characters from shady areas of Phoenix or Mesa might have found themselves at tthe party with AS.

 

[goblinsolo]

automik, did you see my post from last night and map i made?

i made the mistake OF NOT taking wilson (or roosevelt,) from 1st and going down farmer, actually. led me totally off the path. as i (who has lived in this area even,) forgot that brown didnt come off farmer.

check it out. i hit every spot, thou.

 

[goblinsolo]

2hip, with good hindsight IF i was driving 1st back to an apt on hardy 5th area, im staying on 1st ALL THE WAY BACK to hardy, actually. any cutting thru the sidestreets, seems to me like shes ducking someone in her car. being evasive, even.

there i go, assuming again

 

[AmandaReckonwith]

Thre is a pic of Adrienne at the party with roommate Shainey.

Unfortunately it was a little blurry, I didn't save it to the archive and I don't remember where I saw it.

She was wearing a black blouse with tiny dots (?) I think.

 

[cluciano63]

One problems with these cases is when LE is quiet, they may know a lot, or may know almost nothing. We have seen it go both ways in similar cases. Hoping since they are not saying much that it means they have lots of solid info. But...it does not seem that way, IMO.

 

[AmandaReckonwith]

She reminds me so much of Sierra LaMar, still missing in California.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

We know the 911 call reporting the wreck came in at 3:44am (that's the only evidence LE has as to what time the wreck happened).

Also the maps linked at the bottom of this are the old maps. Please pay no mind.

 

[goblinsolo]

dang, so at 3:44am she wrecked? and no evidence of her returning back home?

what did she do, from 344 to 5amish? 1hr 16 min plus?

is that right?