AZ AZ - Adrienne Salinas, 19, Tempe , 15 June 2013 - #2

[missgulfsouth]

I was another one who said from the beginning that she was in the Bayou St. John and you are right, the locals insisted every way they could that she wasn't in there and couldn't possibly be, no damage to curbs, trees, shrubs and no openings. Then you have the police saying she was on camera turning left at the intersection, so it took the focus away from the area she was later found in, underwater, drowned in Bayou St. John.

Having complicated, untrue information hindered locating TM for months. Our first gut feeling, our instinct was correct, even though we were told many times it couldn't be.

I know it, there were many of us who kept insisting that she had to be there. It was heartbreaking when they found her right there, and her poor mama had to wait all those days and weeks. Until my hunches are proven wrong - and I'll be the first to admit it if they are - I have to stick with what my gut tells me. My instincts have steered me right and saved my life more times than I could count.

I pray there are answers in this case soon. I hate cold cases, and there are so many of them!

 

[kmartin96]

MAYBE he didn't feel very inclined to look for her, because he wasn't her boyfriend. if i was with a lady and her insty and fb didn't mention me, maybe i wouldn't think i was too important to her. but regardless, he could of went to sleep and not seen those txts till the next day. and dad found her car at 2pm that day, right? well, say bf went to bed round 430am. lets say he got 8-9 hrs sleep. maybe he was tired! dad found car at 2pm, its not totally ridiculous (AS THE KIDS SAY CRA CRA ridic,) that the guyfriend didn't go looking for her at that time. im being pretty lenient in terms of making concessions for him, but i figure someone has to go to bat for him. this might be my last time, thou.

and this. ''Salinas attended a party in Tempe with her boyfriend the night of June 14 and had been drinking. She and her boyfriend got into an argument at the party. The boyfriend drove her to his home in Scottsdale, but they continued to argue so he drove her home.''

http://www.azcentral.com/community/...oman-search-adrienne-salinas-arizona-brk.html

was this party, EVEN at the hardy.brown apt location? when did we figure that the party was at the house? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hah! oh man. confusion sets in! was the party at her apt?! i thought it was? where was that party/

Above B/CBM:

LOTS of things don't make sense....but here are 3 that are bugging me:

#1-as shown above a party in Tempe with her boyfriend the night of June 14......that was a FRIDAY night. Car found by father SUNDAY afternoon. That is close to 36 hours from 911 call reporting accident to car being found. Wouldn't police have followed up, even if caller said car took off? Maybe found/seen car before 36 hours?

#2-Relationship with the guy/friend/boyfriend/friendzone.....whatever you want to call it.....IMO, there had to be some INTENSE emotions (one-sided? two-sided?) to get in such a HEATED argument that it goes on from party, to bf apartment, then back, (heated enough for A to get out of car enroute). You just don't argue/fight that intensely with just a pal (IMO)

#3-Didn't the roommate say she did not notice A returning after crash (when she was supposed to have changed clothes, and left again?) I'm calling BS on that!! Again, IMO (as a mom of teens)....there's NO WAY you crash your car, walk home, and don't bust through the door with, "OMG!!! You're NOT gonna believe what happened".....and retell your friends the unbelievble details.

I've been reading all posts, hoping and praying with the rest of you. Adrienne reminds me so much of Farrah from Teen Mom (if you have ever seen that show).

Please let me know your thoughts about those 3 things that are really bugging me!! (Also daughter of 30 yr. police officer - Chicago)

 

[goblinsolo]

Why would she have needed a ride from BF from a party at her own apartment?

I know media has been horrible...but I am pretty sure it has been established that the party was at her apartment.

she was leaving with him, to not come back to party, fight ensued and she went back? this is confusing, i agree!

if the first time she left w bf to stay with him, that overnight bag would of been packed for that trip! but, she got that ready only after fight, not before.

seems odd she took off w him, yes. perhaps he was upset bout something, so she left with him to calm him down? and then went back? awesome. weirdness

i do think, bf had something intuitively saying to both himself, and a salinas, to get the hell outta that party...

 

[missgulfsouth]

The facts don't get changed because we are on a new page. The first thread is there for all to see.



ITA W/U New people will ask questions. All I'm saying is lets make sure we give them the correct information.




New people are important and should want to help. I'm not flustered by someone asking questions, I'm flustered by rumors taking wings and flying as fact and applied to the case. It only makes it harder to stick with what we know. IMO.



I do not see a connection either and so far, neither has LE that we know of. The SGS comment was not in relationship to Adrienne at all. So basing a theory on her disappearing because she knew something about someone and was going to talk doesn't make any sense, in fact is just muddies the waters.



Occams Razor. The simplest conclusions with the least assumptions.

Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers. Just trying to keep the facts clear and these were two glaring ones that keep coming up that I think is causing to our overall confusion. We are all confused. The information is confusing. Let's not add information to it that isn't verified or hasn't been substantiated. That has a way or growing legs and becoming fact when it's not. kwim?? Sorry to come off the way I did. Trying to clarify, not incite. Peace out.:rockon:

YES!! Occams Razor. That's what I'm saying. It's almost always the simplest explanation. Think KISS, right?

 

[SandSage]

i think until a press conference or something is released that is newsworthy, we are all going over information to the point of delusion, craziness, and absolute frustration.

i can only imagine how the father of a salinas feels, as cliche as that sounds.

im goin on a lil' journey again tmrw night, the path between rooseveltbrown/ and possibly into brown and her apt street. AND im cruising the hardy, 5th, brown area more thoroughly, because to my mind the focus is that area, after she left her apt and was callin' for el taxi de cabbie la ampm. hittin the park up, as well. i do remember AN ALLEYWAY behind, or i guess south of park? time to check it out first hand, see the wonderful sights of dirt and cement. channel some sherlock holmes and hopefully see something of interest for the forum and for this case.

cheers yall!

O/T but not. I hope to H377 you are hydrating like a mad man. Be safe out there... please. Thank you.

 

[missgulfsouth]

Above B/CBM:

LOTS of things don't make sense....but here are 3 that are bugging me:

#1-as shown above a party in Tempe with her boyfriend the night of June 14......that was a FRIDAY night. Car found by father SUNDAY afternoon. That is close to 36 hours from 911 call reporting accident to car being found. Wouldn't police have followed up, even if caller said car took off? Maybe found/seen car before 36 hours?

#2-Relationship with the guy/friend/boyfriend/friendzone.....whatever you want to call it.....IMO, there had to be some INTENSE emotions (one-sided? two-sided?) to get in such a HEATED argument that it goes on from party, to bf apartment, then back, (heated enough for A to get out of car enroute). You just don't argue/fight that intensely with just a pal (IMO)

#3-Didn't the roommate say she did not notice A returning after crash (when she was supposed to have changed clothes, and left again?) I'm calling BS on that!! Again, IMO (as a mom of teens)....there's NO WAY you crash your car, walk home, and don't bust through the door with, "OMG!!! You're NOT gonna believe what happened".....and retell your friends the unbelievble details.

I've been reading all posts, hoping and praying with the rest of you. Adrienne reminds me so much of Farrah from Teen Mom (if you have ever seen that show).

Please let me know your thoughts about those 3 things that are really bugging me!! (Also daughter of 30 yr. police officer - Chicago)

Chicago! That's a hard core PD! My dad was 25 years in Phoenix (actually Paradise Valley.....but no one knows where that is!)

 

[missgulfsouth]

O/T but not. I hope to H377 you are hydrating like a mad man. Be safe out there... please. Thank you.

YES! And those poor firefighters and their families

 

[cluciano63]

I know it, there were many of us who kept insisting that she had to be there. It was heartbreaking when they found her right there, and her poor mama had to wait all those days and weeks. Until my hunches are proven wrong - and I'll be the first to admit it if they are - I have to stick with what my gut tells me. My instincts have steered me right and saved my life more times than I could count.

I pray there are answers in this case soon. I hate cold cases, and there are so many of them!

But what is your instinct here? Where do you think she is?
Sorry to say, I do not believe she is alive.

 

[kmartin96]

MissGS (and any others who read it....)
Can you give me any thoughts on those 3 things from my post? Much appreciated!

 

[missgulfsouth]

But what is your instinct here? Where do you think she is?
Sorry to say, I do not believe she is alive.

I'm not allowed to say because this person is not a POI. I don't think she is alive either.

 

[mamacita]

is it safe to assume that Adrienne's car was completely searched, including the trunk??

 

[MissDemeanor]

:floorlaugh: LOVE IT!

LOL!!! Me too! haha!!!

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Bringing this over from the last thread so I can reply to it:



I've posted the rewind request but can someone please tell me what time the call came in again? Was it about 2:43am or something like that? June 15, right? Tempe, AZ police?

Thanks, she'll need all this info to do the rewind!

9-1-1 Call was made at 3:44 am Sunday June 16.

 

[MissDemeanor]

is it safe to assume that Adrienne's car was completely searched, including the trunk??

I can't even imagine it wouldn't have been.

 

[MissDemeanor]

9-1-1 Call was made at 3:44 am Sunday June 16.

I don't think so. I think it was made on Saturday at 3:44 am June 15th.

 

[mamacita]

I can't even imagine it wouldn't have been.

that's what i'm thinking. i just keep thinking about Ebony Jackson and how she was found in the trunk after LE towed her car that was parked on a random street.

 

[missgulfsouth]

MissGS (and any others who read it....)
Can you give me any thoughts on those 3 things from my post? Much appreciated!

#1 - It's possible that LE didn't locate the car because it was abandoned, no one was seriously hurt, they expected the owner to get it towed, and frankly Tempe and surrounding area is huge. Lots of people. Lots of other things taking priority over an abandoned vehicle. They didn't know yet that it was connected to a missing person.

#2 - No doubt about it, they were involved and things got heated. Alcohol never helps.

#3 - I have no idea who saw her or said they didn't. You are right, she would tell someone about crashing the car.....

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Bringing this in from last thread for you guys to help.



After her wreck at 3:44 am, the route Adrienne most likely took was a 1 minute drive going speed limit from wreck at rio Salado to the car drop at w brown and Roosevelt. (of course her car probably was moving slower with two flat tires and shot alignment).



5 minutes to walk from car drop at w brown and Roosevelt to apartment complex.



7 minute walk from the apartment to the AMPM.



Area 1 minute walking distance north of the AMPM is 7th street area and hardy (assuming she was really 1 minute away from AMPM when her last call came in before phone shut off - she said at 5:05 am to the cabbie she was one minute away.)

 

[SandSage]

Okay. There is this comment (in several articles but I'm posting this one because it is convenient for me to find the quote) “Her and her boyfriend got into a little argument, and she was going to go to his house,” Duggan told the station.

http://www.rewardstv.net/missing-persons/6000-reward-where-is-adrienne/#more-10193

Is the roomie referring to the FIRST time she went to his house WITH HIM or after she had been dropped off after leaving his house? If it is the latter, it would indicate no one really saw her after the two of them initially went to his house (where they allegedly continued to argue).

:banghead:

ETA: Rather, FORMER not latter.

 

[MissDemeanor]

Above B/CBM:

LOTS of things don't make sense....but here are 3 that are bugging me:

#1-as shown above a party in Tempe with her boyfriend the night of June 14......that was a FRIDAY night. Car found by father SUNDAY afternoon. That is close to 36 hours from 911 call reporting accident to car being found. Wouldn't police have followed up, even if caller said car took off? Maybe found/seen car before 36 hours?

#2-Relationship with the guy/friend/boyfriend/friendzone.....whatever you want to call it.....IMO, there had to be some INTENSE emotions (one-sided? two-sided?) to get in such a HEATED argument that it goes on from party, to bf apartment, then back, (heated enough for A to get out of car enroute). You just don't argue/fight that intensely with just a pal (IMO)

#3-Didn't the roommate say she did not notice A returning after crash (when she was supposed to have changed clothes, and left again?) I'm calling BS on that!! Again, IMO (as a mom of teens)....there's NO WAY you crash your car, walk home, and don't bust through the door with, "OMG!!! You're NOT gonna believe what happened".....and retell your friends the unbelievble details.

I've been reading all posts, hoping and praying with the rest of you. Adrienne reminds me so much of Farrah from Teen Mom (if you have ever seen that show).

Please let me know your thoughts about those 3 things that are really bugging me!! (Also daughter of 30 yr. police officer - Chicago)

Those are excellent questions! Regarding #1 - It is so unfortunate and almost unbelievable that LE didn't follow up on that 911 call. Tragic, in hindsight. I can't imagine that they wouldn't see that stranded vehicle sometime within a 36 hour timespan and run a check on it. Of course we don't know that they didn't either. Probably lots they are not telling us.

On #2 - I feel just like you do! But I get the impression it was a one sided affair and that (just a hunch here) she was the one who wanted it to be more than it was. I think she was intensely jealous of him. Not the other way around. For her to jump out of the car, she was either very drunk or very upset. I'm sure the argument was very intense and she was emotionally charged afterwards.

As for #3 - Here is where we differ in opinion. I think if she did crash her car and was intoxicated she probably didn't want to advertise it.