AZ AZ - Adrienne Salinas, 19, Tempe , 15 June 2013 - #2

[OldSteve]

One minute away.......

and then the phone is off.

As for the cabbie on video surveillance from the AM/PM, I want to see it with my own two eyes. I want to see him arriving.....and waiting.....and calling.....and waiting.....and then pulling out and away. And then I want to know for certain that he was back where he needed to be right away. I want to KNOW these things for my own peace of mind and for my brain to stop screaming at me. My dad is retired LE in Glendale. How close is that to Tempe? Maybe he can get info for me.............

Trying to catch up, forgive if already discussed....
I agree about the cabbie! You are so right on!

LE should check that cab for traces of her being in it.
He would be the last person to be with her, but he's "distancing" himself by saying she never got into the cab, he never saw her....
Check surveillance to look for that cab to see if empty... Lie Detect the cabbie...

 

[a.allison]

This case is so frustrating. I hope someone starts talking soon.

 

[Seajay]

Each day will bring us closer to answers... for both Dylan AND Adrienne. There is always hope that new evidence will come to light and solve these cases. Unfortunately all we can do is keep trying to find out what happened, without actually knowing how close we are to the answers.

I really hope some new information comes to light, someone HAS to know something, at this point I don't believe that Adrienne is missing voluntarily.

And that's just it. Hope! We have to hope. Hope answers come, hope Adrienne is alive, hope in the meantime new information comes out. Hope whoever killed Dylan is caught and pays for it. Hope. Without hope we have nothing.

 

[cluciano63]

I think everyone always hopes the missing person comes home alive and well; that is kind of a given, IMO. Maybe my brain is too cynical, as I can't see any way of that happening in this case from what we know, just as I couldn't in Dylan's case. But it does not mean I did not hope I was wrong.

 

[Seajay]

So all this FB business, to paraphrase as is within the rules here, is in regards to the sponsored post containing the new poster that advertises the $10K reward and her wording when posting it, right? She said "new reward bringing you home mamas" and then other people start asking if she's been found. OP responds "she is coming home" (a rather generic statement of optimism and hope which has been mistaken for one of impending big news, IMO)

Hope that helps people who are sitting around waiting for more information. IMO it's absolutely nothing but poor word choice. Rather than responding to people asking that question, she reposted the poster a couple of hours later and said "Stay strong" - again, generic statements of hope, IMO.

(PS - the woman who posted that comment and poster is the mother of Adrienne's cousin who was shot and killed - article about this was posted a couple of times already between the last thread and this one. So at least she's family and probably has pretty accurate info... )

Yup, every ambiguous. I didn't take it to mean what others did. I didn't get excited about it.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Funny last night I brought up at a moment when everyone assumed she was in the lake - that we recent saw 3 women in Ohio held in captivity freed! A beacon of hope always illuminates in this dark world, and we have to gravitate towards that good hope and not wallow in circles in the dark and cold thought/suppositions/possibilities.

I said that I believed she could be held somewhere In captivity. I find it interesting her dad mentioned in an interview (being optimistic) that he hoped whoever had Adrienne "was feeding her and taking care of her" etc. when I saw him say this, sure it rung as a parents optimistic hope their daughter is still alive and in captivity rather than the greater evil we all fear - but also! I felt as if he believed there was a possibility she's alive.

Chalk it all up to blind hope on his part or you can chalk it up to the fact that he knows more about LE and the investigation than us and he might have sound reason to believe AS is alive and being held! I prefer to think the second option.

I believe she's in a waiting place. I'm not giving up hope that she's still alive!

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

In addition, a promising thing about AS disappearance is we have not heard of any signs of struggle found in any areas near AS disappearance (no blood, clothes, etc)

We also have not heard LE say they found her cellphone laying around anywhere which might indicate she still has her phone with her.

 

[JBinPHX]

Trying to catch up, forgive if already discussed....
I agree about the cabbie! You are so right on!

LE should check that cab for traces of her being in it.
He would be the last person to be with her, but he's "distancing" himself by saying she never got into the cab, he never saw her....
Check surveillance to look for that cab to see if empty... Lie Detect the cabbie...

http://www.kpho.com/story/22709539/owner-of-cab-company-called-by-missing-teen-speaks-out

In this older story, they mention that the police have searched the cab drivers home. I would imagine that they have also searched the cab.

 

[WideOpen]

Trying to catch up, forgive if already discussed....
I agree about the cabbie! You are so right on!

LE should check that cab for traces of her being in it.
He would be the last person to be with her, but he's "distancing" himself by saying she never got into the cab, he never saw her....
Check surveillance to look for that cab to see if empty... Lie Detect the cabbie...

My first suspicions fell upon the cabbie.
He has had his home searched and been DNA'd.
Further reports say he is cooperating with LE.

You get the call. In this case it came in at 4:23, and the closest driver was about 20 minutes away," said Thomas Simon, owner of Scottsdale Cab Guy. He said the driver was his son, Tom.

http://www.kpho.com/story/22709539/c...h-missing-teen

The cab company says the call came in at 4:23 and the driver was 20 mins away. If true and he was dispatched when called he would have arrived at the AMPM at 4:43 and at approx the same time AS sent a text from her phone to the BF at 4:47 saying she was on her way. (no wonder Tom the cabbie was questioned, searched and DNA'd)
http://www.azcentral.com/community/t...nues-abrk.html
But then there are the back and forth calls between AS and the cab driver at 5:05.
I guess I still think its possible that Adrienne was in the cab when she sent that 4:47 text to BF saying "she was on her way" (bolded taken from above msm link)I wish we knew the exact content of the text.

There is something that nags at me about this part of the timeline/history of calls, texts. (being a cab owner myself). If the driver was at the AMPM at 4:43-which is 20 mins as quoted from the time of the original call, what was the cabbie doing for 15 minutes or so before the series of 5:05 am calls? IMO he would have called her immediately upon arrival at the AMPM, so again it is possible he didnt arrive at the AMPM until 5am when the reported calls take place.

Just some thoughts once again.

Adrienne where are you?

jmo

 

[margarita25]

No news on Adrienne?

 

[alreetlike]

I don't know about that particular can company (or indeed any in the US!) but whenever I call a cab in the early hours here in the UK their definition of "20 minutes away" can be somewhat different to mine/the laws of time. So maybe he didn't actually arrive until a bit closer to 5 than anticipated.

The whole timeline is just so confusing.

 

[goblinsolo]

my crazy hypothesis/rant at this time (and what i originally posted on pg14 of the ancient history 1st thread,) perhaps is a bit too fantastically ridiculous...

its saved and ready to cut/paste when i cool off from the 150 degree weather and am thinking more rationally, and i wanna post it so that forum members can both laugh and mock it!

until the police interview those last party members, if they haven't, then the whole party to ampm period to me, is still in need of being reviewed. as, that seems to be the missing puzzle at least, in terms of what happened w a salinas and speaks to her safety, or lack there of.

 

[Seajay]

My first suspicions fell upon the cabbie.
He has had his home searched and been DNA'd.
Further reports say he is cooperating with LE.



http://www.kpho.com/story/22709539/c...h-missing-teen

The cab company says the call came in at 4:23 and the driver was 20 mins away. If true and he was dispatched when called he would have arrived at the AMPM at 4:43 and at approx the same time AS sent a text from her phone to the BF at 4:47 saying she was on her way. (no wonder Tom the cabbie was questioned, searched and DNA'd)
http://www.azcentral.com/community/t...nues-abrk.html
But then there are the back and forth calls between AS and the cab driver at 5:05.
I guess I still think its possible that Adrienne was in the cab when she sent that 4:47 text to BF saying "she was on her way" (bolded taken from above msm link)I wish we knew the exact content of the text.

There is something that nags at me about this part of the timeline/history of calls, texts. (being a cab owner myself). If the driver was at the AMPM at 4:43-which is 20 mins as quoted from the time of the original call, what was the cabbie doing for 15 minutes or so before the series of 5:05 am calls? IMO he would have called her immediately upon arrival at the AMPM, so again it is possible he didnt arrive at the AMPM until 5am when the reported calls take place.

Just some thoughts once again.

Adrienne where are you?

jmo

Good question. I wondered about that myself. Is he trying to say that he waited around for her for 20 minutes twiddling his thumbs?? He didn't try to call and he just waited there??? I don't see that happening. In a town full of college students who are pranksters, I can't see him sitting there without thinking he had been punk'd. Why would he wait so long before contacting her??

Unless........he didn't get there in 20 minutes and arrived at 4:23 am. Do we have any verification as to the TIME the cabbie ARRIVED at the am/pm? Something's not right about this.

 

[WideOpen]

http://www.kpho.com/story/22709539/c...h-missing-teen

Also there is an interesting comment from 6 days ago by BG. I wonder how true this is. Is there a way to sleuth this out and dig a little deeper into any relevance possibly relating?

jmo

 

[MissDemeanor]

I noticed there are some questions still regarding the cab driver and his possible involvement.

LE has already checked out the cab driver thoroughly. They searched his car, searched his home, and took DNA from him. They say he has cooperated with them and he is not a suspect or POI at this time.

Personally I doubt he had anything to do with her disappearance. The cab company was owned by his family and his own dad was the dispatcher, who would know he saw Adrienne, if he did. I think one would be much less likely to commit a crime if someone already knows you are there.

What I do wonder is how big the cab company is and if they had other drivers who might have heard the dispatch to pick up Adrienne. If the father thought the driver was only 20 minutes away, but he took longer than that, is it possible he might have inquired of other drivers how long it would take them to get there?

As one very nice poster pointed out several days ago, and he was the owner of a cab company, they have to keep very strict records. It's the law. And he said that in the area where Adrienne lives these kids depend on their cab drivers to keep them from getting DUIs and normally they know them pretty well.

I would be interested in knowing how many times Adrienne had used this company in the past and how many other drivers they had and where they were at the time.

Also, if I were LE I would look into the records of other cab companies who picked up fares in the same area that early morning. She might have called another company after no showing for that one.

 

[WideOpen]

Good question. I wondered about that myself. Is he trying to say that he waited around for her for 20 minutes twiddling his thumbs?? He didn't try to call and he just waited there??? I don't see that happening. In a town full of college students who are pranksters, I can't see him sitting there without thinking he had been punk'd. Why would he wait so long before contacting her??

Unless........he didn't get there in 20 minutes and arrived at 4:23 am. Do we have any verification as to the TIME the cabbie ARRIVED at the am/pm? Something's not right about this.

Simon said after getting the call, his son headed to that area and followed their procedure.

"He calls back a couple of times along the way to make sure that the person is going to wait," Simon said.

http://www.kpho.com/story/22709539/c...h-missing-teen

Then at 5:04 & 5:05 cabbie calls to make sure she is on her way. (no record of whether these calls were answered)
At 5:06 she calls him back and says she would be there in a minute.
At 5:07 the phone goes to voicemail.

For some reason the time cabbie arrived at AMPM is left out.
How long did he wait around after Adrienne was a no show?
I wonder if she jumped in another cab thinking it was hers?

jmo

 

[MissDemeanor]

http://www.kpho.com/story/22709539/c...h-missing-teen

Also there is an interesting comment from 6 days ago by BG. I wonder how true this is. Is there a way to sleuth this out and dig a little deeper into any relevance possibly relating?

jmo

Morning Wide...just saw your post. I read the article and saw the comment by BG you are referring to. That's incredible! Could this be true? Is there any way to check it out.

Is it possible there is a serial killer or kidnapper on the loose in that area and there's a cover up to keep the public from knowing this?

It wouldn't be good for ASU's reputation if their coeds were in danger.

 

[margarita25]

http://www.kpho.com/story/22709539/c...h-missing-teen

Also there is an interesting comment from 6 days ago by BG. I wonder how true this is. Is there a way to sleuth this out and dig a little deeper into any relevance possibly relating?

jmo

Hmmmmm...

 

[margarita25]

<I always say this here on WS, that it never ceases to amaze me, the multitude of idiotic, offensive comments under MSM articles sometimes IMO JMO>

 

[MissDemeanor]

<I always say this here on WS, that it never ceases to amaze me, the multitude of idiotic, offensive comments under MSM articles sometimes IMO JMO>

Isn't that the truth?!?! It seems the trolls just live to comment under those articles!

Twitter is so much the same way that I have almost quit using my twitter account.

People can be so mean.

"Anonymity" brings out the worst in people!!!