AZ AZ - Adrienne Salinas, 19, Tempe , 15 June 2013 - #2

[goblinsolo]

someone who knows rocky point as a salinas has been noted to go there multiple times; who most likely (as she isn't exactly a homely girl,) had made friends and was probably very much 'liked' in the bars/beach scene, is a totally diff experience, (esp if she speaks the language!,) from me or anyone going down there who is not accustomed to the town/culture.

that being said, If she is down there, it would be absolute insanity. but, its a theory, and from posts prior, i guess LE has definitely gone over those possibilities.

 

[cluciano63]

This age group can, surprisingly, zip their lips, when it comes to their own comforts and freedom, anyway. Just read through the Lauren Spierer case sometime. Over two years later, posters are still debating if phone calls were real, her friends have not really talked since the first days, LE seems to have nothing but suspicions. At least A's friend did not rush for lawyers right away, as Lauren's did.

That said, I don't think A's friends kidnapped her, but whoever did could be of similar age.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Here are some other girls that went missing this year in the Tempe/Scottsdale/PHX area:

Genevieve Gonzalez, last seen March 8, 2013. 19 years old from Scottsdale.
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/19647/3/

Jayde Murray, last seen January 16, 2013. 16 years old. PHX.
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/20508/5/

Antonia Moreno, Last seen January 13, 2013. 16 yo at time. PHX.
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/20510/7/

Girl Gelee, 15 years old. Last seen Jan. 11 2013. PHX.
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/20511/8/

All of these girls went missing this year, including Adrienne. It is strange how Genevieve and Jayde share similar characteristics with Adrienne. Genevieve is even 19 yo like Adrienne. Also Genevieve disappeared when waiting for a cab! Hm. Wonder if Adrienne and Genevieve's disappearances are related??

"Circumstances
The Missing Person along with her Boyfriend and his Mother went to a scheduled Doctor's Appointment on March 8th 2013 at 9377 East Bell Road in Scottsdale, Arizona. After the appointment ended, a taxi was called to take them home. While waiting for the taxi cab to arrive, Missing Person went outside to have a smoke and never returned."

Pray for these girls, too.

(I've began a thread for Genevieve Gonzalez here:

AZ Genevieve Gonzalez: Scottsdale, AZ. 19 yo. Missing since March 8, 2013 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[NJJohn]

Here are some other girls that went missing this year in the Tempe/Scottsdale/PHX area:

Genevieve Gonzalez, last seen March 8, 2013. 19 years old from Scottsdale.
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/19647/3/

Jayde Murray, last seen January 16, 2013. 16 years old. PHX.
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/20508/5/

Antonia Moreno, Last seen January 13, 2013. 16 yo at time. PHX.
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/20510/7/

Girl Gelee, 15 years old. Last seen Jan. 11 2013. PHX.
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/20511/8/

All of these girls went missing this year, including Adrienne. It is strange how Genevieve and Jayde share similar characteristics with Adrienne. Genevieve is even 19 yo like Adrienne. Also Genevieve disappeared when waiting for a cab! Hm. Wonder if Adrienne and Genevieve's disappearances are related??

"Circumstances
The Missing Person along with her Boyfriend and his Mother went to a scheduled Doctor's Appointment on March 8th 2013 at 9377 East Bell Road in Scottsdale, Arizona. After the appointment ended, a taxi was called to take them home. While waiting for the taxi cab to arrive, Missing Person went outside to have a smoke and never returned."

Pray for these girls, too.

(I've began a thread for Genevieve Gonzalez here:

AZ Genevieve Gonzalez: Scottsdale, AZ. 19 yo. Missing since March 8, 2013 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Genevieve already had a thread. She's been found. Her last posting on fb is from June.

 

[spangled]

http://www.examiner.com/article/dead-or-alive-where-is-adrienne-salinas

New article... No new news.

This absolutely baffles me.

 

[Cuoco7]

I've tried my best to read all your posts, but how is it known that it was AS's voice that actually called for the cab?

 

[JBinPHX]

I've tried my best to read all your posts, but how is it known that it was AS's voice that actually called for the cab?

I do not believe that we have received any proof of that. I haven't heard of any recordings provided. I think they are just basing it on cell phone records.

 

[MissDemeanor]

I can see how people get discouraged when a few weeks go by and there aren't any new developments in a case. I hope we can keep up the speculation and discussion here, even if the theories are varied, so this case doesn't go cold. Hopefully the www.Tempe.gov/police website will be updated soon so that we can have the latest official information available.

 

[AmorAlways]

I've been reading this case and being a young adult myself, it seems easier to put myself in her shoes. IMO Had I been in an accident and tipsy/drunk, I would not call police or ask for anyone's help unless I was far away from home. She went back to the apartment and changed.. the reason WHY she changed, not sure. But could be because blood or something ripped, or what about the weather that day? Possibly she could have got wet etc. Or just wanted to be in more comfortable sleeping clothes.

IMO If I had been in a fight with my BF and accident while under the influence, I would be very distraught. Although fighting with my boyfriend, he would still be the only one to calm me down about it. It's clear she smokes mj due to her instagram photos. To mellow herself out, I could see her going to smoke a bowl around her complex to clear her mind which would understand leaving all her belongings except her phone.


Her bf did not answer her calls which is reasonable because he could think that she had just been wanting to discuss what they had been fighting about. My BF and myself do this when we are extremely irritated and he would ignore my calls until I stop calling and talk to me in next day.

Someone could have been outside the party, whether a party goer, a noisy neighbor, or a random individual. Possibly asking to smoke with her which if a stranger that would seem weird. I think maybe she at least was familiar with the individual. They took her and being as vulnerable as she was in some way troubled her.

Individual now has her phone, and perhaps by observation or text messages and the numerous calls figured they were fighting(AS & bf) and knew that's who she left with the first time. Falsely text "Coming Over" to cover up but then her car was not around so they made it seem as though she called a cab to ampm and impersonated a girly voice. They may have known the Cab company would call, I think most do especially if not meeting at a home but a plaza or store location. And as soon as that alibi was completed.. there was no need for the phone. All interest would be onto the Cab driver. There is no way to verify it was her in fact using her phone.

May have been what everyone else has speculated but just thought I'd give my opinion.

JMO.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Genevieve already had a thread. She's been found. Her last posting on fb is from June.

Wow! Missing persons needs to update her file!!!! Thank you!!!

And Thank God she's been found!!!!!

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

I've been reading this case and being a young adult myself, it seems easier to put myself in her shoes. IMO Had I been in an accident and tipsy/drunk, I would not call police or ask for anyone's help unless I was far away from home. She went back to the apartment and changed.. the reason WHY she changed, not sure. But could be because blood or something ripped, or what about the weather that day? Possibly she could have got wet etc. Or just wanted to be in more comfortable sleeping clothes.

IMO If I had been in a fight with my BF and accident while under the influence, I would be very distraught. Although fighting with my boyfriend, he would still be the only one to calm me down about it. It's clear she smokes mj due to her instagram photos. To mellow herself out, I could see her going to smoke a bowl around her complex to clear her mind which would understand leaving all her belongings except her phone.


Her bf did not answer her calls which is reasonable because he could think that she had just been wanting to discuss what they had been fighting about. My BF and myself do this when we are extremely irritated and he would ignore my calls until I stop calling and talk to me in next day.

Someone could have been outside the party, whether a party goer, a noisy neighbor, or a random individual. Possibly asking to smoke with her which if a stranger that would seem weird. I think maybe she at least was familiar with the individual. They took her and being as vulnerable as she was in some way troubled her.

Individual now has her phone, and perhaps by observation or text messages and the numerous calls figured they were fighting(AS & bf) and knew that's who she left with the first time. Falsely text "Coming Over" to cover up but then her car was not around so they made it seem as though she called a cab to ampm and impersonated a girly voice. They may have known the Cab company would call, I think most do especially if not meeting at a home but a plaza or store location. And as soon as that alibi was completed.. there was no need for the phone. All interest would be onto the Cab driver. There is no way to verify it was her in fact using her phone.

May have been what everyone else has speculated but just thought I'd give my opinion.

JMO.

I thought too that she could have gone back to her Apt to hit a bowl and calm down! (which for the record she shouldnt smoke while possibly having panic issues after a wreck especially with a recently COLLAPSED LUNG.)

Thanks for saying that. I didn't want to in fear of seeming inappropriate!

 

[AmorAlways]

I thought too that she could have gone back to her Apt to hit a bowl and calm down! (which for the record she shouldnt smoke while possibly having panic issues after a wreck especially with a recently COLLAPSED LUNG.)

Thanks for saying that. I didn't want to in fear of seeming inappropriate!

Yeah I agree but majority young folks especially when comes to MJ don't necessarily factor in the possibilities. I know people that have had wisdom teeth pulled and right after decided to smoke a joint and also with some that had bronchitis. Smoke is smoke whether one is more harsh or not.

I would check surveillance cameras in every close vicinity of exiting her apartment complex/neighborhood. Check vehicles between 4am - 530am and possibly link someone to her college or in the area. Its far fetched but if nothing comes up, you'll have a list of vehicles seen in the area ( if there are cameras).

Also interesting, at 4:23 the call was made for the cab and the closest was 20 minutes away. Why wait 20 mins exactly or until that time to text your bf "coming over" I would still be trying to get in contact with him to be sure he was awake, in fear of being stranded if in fact she was the one to call.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Amoralways- did she prefer to smoke joints or a bowl? Did she post pictures of bowls/bongs In her Instagram or more of her smoking joints?

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Yeah I agree but majority young folks especially when comes to MJ don't necessarily factor in the possibilities. I know people that have had wisdom teeth pulled and right after decided to smoke a joint and also with some that had bronchitis. Smoke is smoke whether one is more harsh or not.

Just got my wisdom teeth out and smoked/drank the wacky to naturally deal with the pain . Totally agree!

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

"Also interesting, at 4:23 the call was made for the cab and the closest was 20 minutes away. Why wait 20 mins exactly or until that time to text your bf "coming over" I would still be trying to get in contact with him to be sure he was awake, in fear of being stranded if in fact she was the one to call".

Maybe she was going to meet with a dealer to get more smoke before getting in the cab? Everyone at the party smoked the supply? Maybe she jumped in dealers car near the AMPM to make the transaction and he took off with her??? Maybe this is why she didn't want her wallet or ID with her in case they got busted during the deal??

May e the dealer offered to just give her a ride?

 

[cluciano63]

She may have waited to text him so he couldn't tell her not to come. That way she could tell him too late, already in a cab, if he replied.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

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I would check surveillance cameras in every close vicinity of exiting her apartment complex/neighborhood. Check vehicles between 4am - 530am and possibly link someone to her college or in the area. Its far fetched but if nothing comes up, you'll have a list of vehicles seen in the area ( if there are cameras).

Great point. Yes I hope they've done this already. There is a complex with a restaurant and other businesses on the walk from her Apt to the AMPM.

There is also a nice apartment complex across the street from where she would presumably walk from the apartment to AMPM. I think most of the CCTV cameras at traffic lights are now gone due to a bill being passed to axe them back in 2011, so the oh street cameras I know of now are along the highways/highway exits.

 

[AmorAlways]

Amoralways- did she prefer to smoke joints or a bowl? Did she post pictures of bowls/bongs In her Instagram or more of her smoking joints?

I'm not sure, possibly both but a bowl is much more easier to have and use. There was a picture of RAW rolling papers and a picture of her broken bowl. Rasta colors (red,green,yellow) Smirnoff bottles, and made tags 420 under a picture that may have been back in April perhaps. I'll go back to see if there's more.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

She may have waited to text him so he couldn't tell her not to come. That way she could tell him too late, already in a cab, if he replied.

Ah the old dating "foot in the door" tactic! Good idea!

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

I'm not sure, possibly both but a bowl is much more easier to have and use. There was a picture of RAW rolling papers and a picture of her broken bowl. Rasta colors (red,green,yellow) Smirnoff bottles, and made tags 420 under a picture that may have been back in April perhaps. I'll go back to see if there's more.

Wow she sounds like an avid smoker. Paraphernalia AND papers? Usually people just pick one or the other. IMHO