AZ AZ - Adrienne Salinas, 19, Tempe , 15 June 2013 - #3

[2Hip2BSquare]

Ha haaaaa! We are on the same page. just adore you 2hip, you too OldSteve.

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You, too!

 

[MissDemeanor]

The Vigil .....

I will definitely be going to the Vigil.

I want to be there for Adrienne. I believe she is still alive.

I want to be there in the presence of other people who love and care for her. To do
whatever we can do to let her know how much we want her to come home.

To let the Gods in the heavens know how much we all truly care!

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

If you do get to offer Rick encouragement, please let him know we are trying to spread more news of this nationally and internationally on websleuths. And maybe give then some ideas/tips on ideas for fund raising (reward $$) and spreading the word about AS via media and proper posters - updated and managed missing persons site specifically for AS... Etc etc.

I'm not versed in these things, but maybe Sand and Miss can offer some help as I know they have covered other MP cases and probably have a better idea than myself as to how to help the family get the word out.

Also if sand and miss are local maybe they have connections/contacts that they can direct Rick to?

Aka printing all the missing persons posters for free of you know someone who can do that for cheap or nada.

Organizing search groups.

Maybe even media connections.

 

[MissDemeanor]

If you do get to offer Rick encouragement, please let him know we are trying to spread more news of this nationally and internationally on websleuths. And maybe give then some ideas/tips on ideas for fund raising (reward $$) and spreading the word about AS via media and proper posters - updated and managed missing persons site specifically for AS... Etc etc.

I'm not versed in these things, but maybe Sand and Miss can offer some help as I know they have covered other MP cases and probably have a better idea than myself as to how to help the family get the word out.

Also if sand and miss are local maybe they have connections/contacts that they can direct Rick to?

We can't go there representing Websleuths. Not without talking to the owners first. But your suggestions are well received. The Tempe Police Department has suggestions on how to organize things to help get the word out too.

We won't do anything without permission that could in any way reflect on Websleuths, but we will hopefully have this covered before Saturday.

Thanks so much for your great suggestions 2Hip! Wish you were here!

 

[MissDemeanor]

Hm I think you really have empathy for AS and her loved ones. I'm
Sure they would appreciate any support, whether prayer or a moment of silence. I don't really believe in conventional prayer, but I do believe in the power of a "collective positive encouraging consciousness".

As long as they don't start "bringin out the snakes", you'll be fine. . Hehe!

hahaha!!! I get a real kick out of you 2Hip!

 

[MissDemeanor]

Please be careful if you go.
BBM - It's never a good sign when the person who's missing phone cannot be found and/or not pinging.

We will be careful, Steve! Thank you!

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Heck yes! (Napoleon dynamite voice)

It was nothin.

 

[kymas3434]

something is jumping out at me on the instagram. The last pics posted on "2013-06-14 05:44 Nashville" With quote "All dressed up and nowhere to go but crazy"

Isnt that the night they had the party? What does she mean no where to go? They were having a party right. And what does "Nashville" mean?

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Y'all should Defo go on behalf of your FINE selves and offer him help for sure. Don't tell us what happens so it's not connected to WS.

Would rather if you guys have contacts on ground there that can help that it be through your own personal intervention of course.

But if you get to hug him , bring my energy there with you will ya?

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

something is jumping out at me on the instagram. The last pics posted on "2013-06-14 05:44 Nashville" With quote "All dressed up and nowhere to go but crazy"

Isnt that the night they had the party? What does she mean no where to go? They were having a party right. And what does "Nashville" mean?

Think she went to Nashville aka "NashVegas"?

 

[MissDemeanor]

something is jumping out at me on the instagram. The last pics posted on "2013-06-14 05:44 Nashville" With quote "All dressed up and nowhere to go but crazy"

Isnt that the night they had the party? What does she mean no where to go? They were having a party right. And what does "Nashville" mean?

This is what brought me here to begin with, Kymm! The day it was announced that Adrienne had gone missing I immediately went to her Instagram account. I saw that photo you refer to along with all the others she had posted that indicated to me what her current frame of mind really was.

I believe she was a very deep and sensitive thinker. I know that kids today communicate with their Instagram accounts. Their #hashtags are very telling and meaningful. I do the same thing with mine, btw.

When I saw Adrienne's last photo of herself (upside down) and the comment about having nowhere to go along with the hashtags she used about walking dead and man of steel, I could sense the message she was trying to convey:

"Help! Someone get me out of here!" (My interpretation)

That was the message I picked up! Walking Dead inferred she was trying to survive in a life she didn't feel safe or happy in. Take me to the man of steel indicated she wanted to go to someone who was strong, who would take care of her.

I don't know what Nashville means unless Adrienne was involved in politics in some way we haven't been told or she had seen the movie and related in some way to the assassination of JFK. I know Adrienne related to her feelings through movies. If she had seen the movie, Nashville, she might have been struck by the song by Keith Carradine:

I'm Easy (from the movie "Nashville", sung by Keith Carradine)

It's not my way to love you just when no one’s looking,
it's not my way to take your hand if I'm not sure,
it's not my way to let you see what's going on inside of me,
when it's a love you won't be needing you're not free.

Please stop pulling at my sleeve if you're just playing,
if you won't take the things you make me wanna give,
I never cared too much for games, and this one’s driving me insane,
you're not half as free to wonder as you claim.
But I’m easy, yeah I’m easy, give the word I’ll play your game,
as though that’s how it ought to be, because I’m easy.

Don't lead me on if there's nowhere for you to take me,
if loving you would have to be a sometime thing,
I can't put bars on my inside, my love is something I can't hide,
it still hurts when I recall the times I tried.
But I'm easy, yeah I'm easy, take my hand and pull me down,
I won't put up any fight because I'm easy.

Don't do me favours, let me watch you from the distance,
‘cause when you're near I find it hard to keep my head,
when your eyes throw light at mine, it's enough to change my mind,
make me leave my cautious words and ways behind.
That’s why I’m easy, yeah I’m easy, say you want me I’ll come running,
without taking time to think, because I'm easy.

 

[MissDemeanor]

Rick Salinas - how my heart grieves for him. I believe he is a good man. A good father. Someone who would have given the world to make his daughter happy. I also think he might not have completely understood the pain she was in emotionally.

JMHO

 

[kymas3434]

This is what brought me here to begin with, Kymm! The day it was announced that Adrienne had gone missing I immediately went to her Instagram account. I saw that photo you refer to along with all the others she had posted that indicated to me what her current frame of mind really was.

I believe she was a very deep and sensitive thinker. I know that kids today communicate with their Instagram accounts. Their #hashtags are very telling and meaningful. I do the same thing with mine, btw.

When I saw Adrienne's last photo of herself (upside down) and the comment about having nowhere to go along with the hashtags she used about walking dead and man of steel, I could sense the message she was trying to convey:

"Help! Someone get me out of here!" (My interpretation)

That was the message I picked up! Walking Dead inferred she was trying to survive in a life she didn't feel safe or happy in. Take me to the man of steel indicated she wanted to go to someone who was strong, who would take care of her.

I don't know what Nashville means unless Adrienne was involved in politics in some way we haven't been told or she had seen the movie and related in some way to the assassination of JFK. I know Adrienne related to her feelings through movies. If she had seen the movie, Nashville, she might have been struck by the song by Keith Carradine:

I'm Easy (from the movie "Nashville", sung by Keith Carradine)

It's not my way to love you just when no one’s looking,
it's not my way to take your hand if I'm not sure,
it's not my way to let you see what's going on inside of me,
when it's a love you won't be needing you're not free.

Please stop pulling at my sleeve if you're just playing,
if you won't take the things you make me wanna give,
I never cared too much for games, and this one’s driving me insane,
you're not half as free to wonder as you claim.
But I’m easy, yeah I’m easy, give the word I’ll play your game,
as though that’s how it ought to be, because I’m easy.

Don't lead me on if there's nowhere for you to take me,
if loving you would have to be a sometime thing,
I can't put bars on my inside, my love is something I can't hide,
it still hurts when I recall the times I tried.
But I'm easy, yeah I'm easy, take my hand and pull me down,
I won't put up any fight because I'm easy.

Don't do me favours, let me watch you from the distance,
‘cause when you're near I find it hard to keep my head,
when your eyes throw light at mine, it's enough to change my mind,
make me leave my cautious words and ways behind.
That’s why I’m easy, yeah I’m easy, say you want me I’ll come running,
without taking time to think, because I'm easy.

Its just driving me crazy. I feel like theres something there right in front of us and we haven't found it yet. I feel she left little signs everywhere, we just need to piece them together. She must have had an email acct. I wonder if anyone has checked this. Theres so many avenues to go to find clues. Ughhhh I wish I could help them or give them these ideas to look into.

 

[MissDemeanor]

Its just driving me crazy. I feel like theres something there right in front of us and we haven't found it yet. I feel she left little signs everywhere, we just need to piece them together. She must have had an email acct. I wonder if anyone has checked this. Theres so many avenues to go to find clues. Ughhhh I wish I could help them or give them these ideas to look into.

I would think that LE has her laptop and has been checking this out. I find it very interesting that none of the reporters have mentioned her SM. I wonder if they consider this "hearsay". I'm sure that since the FBI is also assisting on this case they are all over her FB and Instagram.

Maybe they have the same unanswered questions we have. Maybe they have reached the same conclusion.

I feel they have leads they are following that they can't tell us about.

I just hope they find her....alive.

 

[MissDemeanor]

An aside:

We have all been operating under the assumption that Adrienne was completely and totally wasted.

But maybe she wasn't. Maybe she was actually in complete and total control of all her faculties, and she had a plan. Maybe she had been working on a plan to escape all her pain and unhappiness for quite some time. Perhaps there was someone who was helping her and encouraging her in this plan.

And maybe this was the night that everything just came to a great big 'head'.

I doubt very seriously that her plan could have involved wrecking her car on purpose. I think that was an accident.

But I believe there is a 'possibility' she knew what she was doing when she turned off her cell phone and walked out the door, leaving behind all her belongings and identity. Leaving a life in which she felt hopelessly unfulfilled and distraught, to start a new one.....somewhere with someone.

Do I think this is could really be what happened? I don't honestly know. But I do think it's a better alternative than suicide, which many young people commit these days.

After her accident, I think her last desperate attempts to speak to her boyfriend (the 11 unanswered calls) and the final text that she was "coming over" that also got no response, could have finally pushed her over the edge to execute her plan...to leave.

Maybe when she asked the cab to meet her at the AM/PM instead of at her apartment, it was because she didn't want anyone to know she was leaving. And then maybe whoever she was meeting told her they would come and pick her up instead.

Just maybe......

I don't think Adrienne could have ever imagined that this would turn into the full scale investigation it has. I think she might have had plans to perhaps disappear for a couple of days but then when the police began to search the lake she became even more frightened and confused and simply didn't know what to do.

ALL ...JMHO

 

[MissDemeanor]

I remember when I first learned how to fish. A wise old gentleman farmer was teaching me how on a 5 acre stock pond filled with fish. I couldn't catch a thing to save my life. Then he told me something I will never forget:

"To catch a fish you have to be able to think like a fish."

Has anyone here ever had their heart broken so badly they simply wanted to die? Or disappear? I have. I can completely and totally relate to the feeling.

Even though, thankfully, it has been some time back.

 

[kymas3434]

I remember when I first learned how to fish. A wise old gentleman farmer was teaching me how on a 5 acre stock pond filled with fish. I couldn't catch a thing to save my life. Then he told me something I will never forget:

"To catch a fish you have to be able to think like a fish."

Has anyone here ever had their heart broken so badly they simply wanted to die? Or disappear? I have. I can completely and totally relate to the feeling.

Even though, thankfully, it has been some time back.

I can totally relate, this is why I think she chose to disappear in my opinion

 

[MissDemeanor]

What makes this case so different from all the other MP cases is the fact that she did have all of these bizarre and unsettling events happen on that one night leading up to her disappearance, coupled with all the mysterious and puzzling things she posted on her social media. IMHO

 

[MissDemeanor]

I can totally relate, this is why I think she chose to disappear in my opinion

Those of us who are highly sensitive and who have experienced the agony and despair of a shattered heart, especially at so young an age, can relate more easily I think.

And yet I fully understand those who feel she has met with a different fate.

 

[alreetlike]

I can place myself in her mindset as I've been there too but my personal opinion is that this only served to distract her or prevent her taking precautions, resulting in her meeting with foul play.