AZ AZ - Adrienne Salinas, 19, Tempe , 15 June 2013 - #3

[cluciano63]

lets also discuss how absolutely insane she was (or whomever was driving) to be going down rio salado east at 65 miles an hr, and take that hard turn at that speed.

very dangerous, i wonder what her driving record is like. does she have a prior dui, perhaps? many speeding tickets?

all the more reason, she might of left the scene of accident. i didn't note any car damage beyond tires in the pics, maybe i missed something.

I was just thinking about how much better it may have been if she had been slightly injured or the police had come before she could take off...as if she is on that video, so close to her destination and yet did not make it, I do not think she is alive now.

 

[kymas3434]

lets also discuss how absolutely insane she was (or whomever was driving) to be going down rio salado east at 65 miles an hr, and take that hard turn at that speed.

very dangerous, i wonder what her driving record is like. does she have a prior dui, perhaps? many speeding tickets?

all the more reason, she might of left the scene of accident. i didn't note any car damage beyond tires in the pics, maybe i missed something.

I have looked into that.....

06/07/2012 Speeding ticket dismissed by court.

That's all. Shes pretty responsible from what I see. <modsnip>

 

[goblinsolo]

was this news story posted? just noted it from azcentral....

salinas' car was in full on race mode, dangerous. i guess she was in a rush to get to her bfs' house, or leave party, or someone else was driving, too, as noted by the earlier 911 call as a possible 2 people in car.

http://www.azcentral.com/community/...w-car-of-missing-19-year-old-Tempe-woman.html


''A woman on her way to work reported seeing a car belonging to a missing 19-year-old college student driving erratically, Tempe police reports show.

An extensive search for Adrienne Salinas, missing for more than a month, has yielded few new leads for investigators, according to the reports released Wednesday. The Gateway Community College student has been missing since June 15.

The woman told police she was driving to work at Starbucks at 3:40 a.m. June 15 when she saw a white car suddenly entered behind her on southbound Hardy Drive.

She said the white car accelerated rapidly and followed extremely close to the back of her vehicle.

The woman approached Rio Salado Parkway and turned east with the white car following her, speeding rapidly and following too closely again, according to the report. The woman changed lanes as did the white car, which then accelerated to about 65 mph and passed her.

The woman said as she approached her turn at Ash Avenue from Rio Salado Parkway, she saw ahead of her a large amount of smoke coming from the white car&#8217;s tires and dirt in the air. The car had hit the east curb in the turn and both of the driver&#8217;s side tires were on the curb, flattened, according to the report.

The woman told police she got out of her vehicle to check on the driver but the white car fled on the damaged tires southbound on Ash Avenue.

She called police, who checked the area at the time but did not find the white car.

The white car, a 2002 Mercury Sable, was found the next day disabled at the corner of Brown and Roosevelt streets, the reports say.

Officers canvassed neighborhoods and businesses and found no one with a credible sighting of Salinas, according to the reports.''

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

I'm bout to watch it now. I'm sure they would not add it to the police report is they didn't think it was her. Would just cause more mystery/issues if it weren't her IMO.

Ah just realized we don't have the video to watch?! Man!

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Modified post and deletd as was corrected by Goblinsolo! Thank u!

 

[cluciano63]

I think it is pretty much a given she was driving the car. At least in my mind. JMO

 

[goblinsolo]

She wasnt walking on the same side of the street as the auto parts store/cam. The camera got her walking on the other side of the street as it was facing Hardy. She was walking on the east of hardy where the camera was facing.

''Police said surveillance video from O'Reilly Auto Parts at 1002 W. University showed a slender woman walking through the west parking lot of the store at 4:52 a.m. A dark four-door vehicle is also seen heading northbound through the same parking lot two minutes later, according to the police report.''


http://www.kpho.com/story/22869930/police-report-sheds-light-prior-to-tempe-teens-disappearance

 

[kodi]

The story I read last night says it was found. they have her phone. But where did they find it?????? That's the million dollar question. (Sorry if this was already posted, Im trying to catch up from last night)

http://www.azfamily.com/news/inger/Missing-Tempe-teen-new-information--215943951.html

I've clicked all the various links you wonderful sleuthers have been posting and I just realized why I'm confused about this article...

It was originally posted last night but edited this morning. I've read several times and see no mention of the phone being found in it. Am I losing my marbles?

Wait...don't answer that. *chuckles and :banghead:



ETA: I do find it interesting that the article states police won't go into detail about the driver..

One last note...does anyone else wonder if goblin is now on LE's possible suspect list because he's frequenting the area she went missing so much??? *lol* Great work, goblin! We appreciate it. =)

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

''Police said surveillance video from O'Reilly Auto Parts at 1002 W. University showed a slender woman walking through the west parking lot of the store at 4:52 a.m. A dark four-door vehicle is also seen heading northbound through the same parking lot two minutes later, according to the police report.''


http://www.kpho.com/story/22869930/police-report-sheds-light-prior-to-tempe-teens-disappearance

What the crap?!?!? Weird! Ok now I wonder. Maybe yes she did switch to the other side of the street bc someone creeped her out?

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

So basically she switched sides of the street, then went toward the Oreilley parking lot and walked in it past the camera and then just a few seconds later this car drives by the camera heading north in the parking lot (maybe with AS inside?!).

Chilling! Omg!

 

[cluciano63]

Why can't they clear or charge this cab driver by now? Is he on video going into the market? Did he do any other fares after 5:00am that morning? Have they searched the taxi? I find it hard to believe some trace of her wouldn't be in the car, if she was in it.

Of course, the cabbie being the perp also= worst case scenario to me.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Why can't they clear or charge this cab driver by now? Is he on video going into the market? Did he do any other fares after 5:00am that morning? Have they searched the taxi? I find it hard to believe some trace of her wouldn't be in the car, if she was in it.

Of course, the cabbie being the perp also= worst case scenario to me.

They did DNA and other tests on the Cabbie, his home, and the car. Nothing could be found. Same with AS's car - no signs of foul play or anyone else driving it (I'm sure they checked for blood, fingerprints, damage inside the car, etc. (from what we know which all seems so suspect in the first place)

 

[goblinsolo]

What the crap?!?!? Weird! Ok now I wonder. Maybe yes she did switch to the other side of the street bc someone creeped her out?

2hip, did u read my travels' last night into the area, again? I would be interested to hear yr thoughts, theories!

i was sooooo dismayed to think about salinas and what could of possibly posessed her (IF ITS HER AT CAR PARTS STORE,) to be on the west of that street.

i sat in the parking lot of oreillys round 230am, got off my bike and just took it all in.

was her cell discovered in this lot? its a 12-13 min window of time of the woman being seen at car parts store, then that final documented call from salinas to CAB (not from cabbie,) saying she was on way. cab called her twice, then she called cab. then, 507, phone when dead/off.

until the family or LE can CONFIRM thats salinas in the parking lot, then we cannot be sure and the assumptions have no merit, yet. i'm waiting on that info, or another break from LE, etc.

the notion that its being leaked out by LE to somehow bait or get a POI to bite and make an appearance or demand, perhaps? i don't know. how long has LE had this car surveillance info?>

again, cab was seen at AMPM, w only driver in cab. cab was not identified at car part store, and why would it? salinas by her own voice, said she was on way still!

my theory about her being tailed, or chased, goes this far, THUS far... she crossed that street on hardy for whatever reason, and the car did not follow her into the west part.
it could of wrapped around university and THEN into north entrance.

BUT BUT BUT...
i think that its not a random occurence of 4doorsedan and slender woman convening, and that salinas had no records of contacting anyone else, was this a verbal/physical meeting arranged at the party, when she got home? was it someone known to her?

the amount of time in parking lot of oreillys, AND that salinas didnt dissappear from phone communication at that time, that she at 506, (which is 12-13 mins later after woman entered that lot and then the car,) confirms that she wasn't at that moment in danger, and that perhaps she was swayed to jet away with this particular car instead of cab. theory, of course.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

I don't like how D R George frequented that Circle K across University. Just sayin.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

2hip, did u read my travels' last night into the area, again? I would be interested to hear yr thoughts, theories!

i was sooooo dismayed to think about salinas and what could of possibly posessed her (IF ITS HER AT CAR PARTS STORE,) to be on the west of that street.

i sat in the parking lot of oreillys round 230am, got off my bike and just took it all in.

was her cell discovered in this lot? its a 12-13 min window of time of the woman being seen at car parts store, then that final documented call from salinas to CAB (not from cabbie,) saying she was on way. cab called her twice, then she called cab. then, 507, phone when dead/off.

until the family or LE can CONFIRM thats salinas in the parking lot, then we cannot be sure and the assumptions have no merit, yet. i'm waiting on that info, or another break from LE, etc.

the notion that its being leaked out by LE to somehow bait or get a POI to bite and make an appearance or demand, perhaps? i don't know. how long has LE had this car surveillance info?>

again, cab was seen at AMPM, w only driver in cab. cab was not identified at car part store, and why would it? salinas by her own voice, said she was on way still!

my theory about her being tailed, or chased, goes this far, THUS far... she crossed that street on hardy for whatever reason, and the car did not follow her into the west part.
it could of wrapped around university and THEN into north entrance.

BUT BUT BUT...
i think that its not a random occurence of 4doorsedan and slender woman convening, and that salinas had no records of contacting anyone else, was this a verbal/physical meeting arranged at the party, when she got home? was it someone known to her?

the amount of time in parking lot of oreillys, AND that salinas didnt dissappear from phone communication at that time, that she at 506, (which is 12-13 mins later after woman entered that lot and then the car,) confirms that she wasn't at that moment in danger, and that perhaps she was swayed to jet away with this particular car instead of cab. theory, of course.

Looking back now to find the posts. This thread blew up overnight wow! Trying to catch up with y'all.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

I mean we know she had car trouble - auto parts store? Did she think maybe the place was open and she could tell them about her car? The store hours Monday through Saturday are 7am-9pm. Idk anymore...

 

[Tonto]

I hope ya'll will go back to pages 17+ and consider the timeframe and why I think the cabbie is the obvious first choice. Talking about the boyfriend or the wreck or any of the things that happened prior to her being seen on camera a mere 15 second walk away from AMPM - and 13 minutes before she said "I'll be there in a minute" - is fruitless. Whatever happened to her happened in a 14-15 minute span from 4:52-5:07, and within that immediate area. If the cabbie isn't lying about the 'I'll be there in a minute' correspondence, then the timeframe where something happened reduces to about a minute.

The dark sedan is clearly what we are looking for here. If cabbie was driving a dark sedan, then whoops. Could also have been an undercover cop or someone she knew talking to her for 10-13 minutes and then kidnapping her, but that just seems utterly bizarre to me.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Cars keep coming into play. Auto shops. A car key separate from the house keys (you know how you separate the two usually when your car is in the shop?)

Did someone who works on cars set her up for car damage and then baited her and asked her if she needed help with her car? She went to meet him first at oreilley's so he could go to her car with her and check the damage? Maybe even offered to drive her back to her car or to get her car key that she left at home which is why she could have willingly complied?

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Maybe the lapse of time and why she was making the cabbie wait was bc she was trying to get her car dealt with or at least to a shop before going to BFs?

 

[cluciano63]

I hope ya'll will go back to pages 17+ and consider the timeframe and why I think the cabbie is the obvious first choice. Talking about the boyfriend or the wreck or any of the things that happened prior to her being seen on camera a mere 15 second walk away from AMPM - and 13 minutes before she said "I'll be there in a minute" - is fruitless. Whatever happened to her happened in a 14-15 minute span from 4:52-5:07, and within that immediate area. If the cabbie isn't lying, then the timeframe reduces to about a minute.

The dark sedan is clearly what we are looking for here.

I agree that the boyfriend, even the accident, are all beside the point and don't really matter anymore (other than state of mind.) She disappeared after all that, after making it home safely and leaving once more.

I just can't tell if LE is requesting info on the car or not; they do not clearly indicate that they are, and I would expect much more to made of the fact of an unidentified car, if LE needed help from the public.