AZ AZ - Adrienne Salinas, 19, Tempe , 15 June 2013 - #6

[AzPistonsGirl]

FWIW - everyone is not saying the same thing here - there have many different theories and possible scenairos.

I do not think Adrienne was totally inebriated. I think things are pretty much exactly as has been reported.

Does the report say that the roommate did not allow the officer to look around?

 

[Bernina]

just to defend Tempe and a little O/T... it is a college town, has the same kind of college-town issues as other college towns, IMO. I attended ASU as an adult student at night for 4 years fairly recently, and never had ANY problems. Sure, I saw homeless folks, I saw troublemakers, but never felt like I was not "safe". I was at Casey Moore's often, had friends who lived on campus, stumbled out of parties at 4am, never had any issues. (Granted, I am from Detroit and lived in LA, lol...) It comes down to how you carry yourself and use that "gift of fear". I am not opining on Adrienne's state of mind or "victimness" - just wanted to say that tempe is not some scary dark place to avoid. ALL IMO.

Tempe is as good as you make it. Like any place, know your surroundings, CYA. We had our all weekend parties that ended at the river or lake, totally toasted, dragging unknown party goers with us, hit many a party at "Sin City", hangouts were the pool hall that used to be on Mill, just North of University, Minder Binders, Sadie Hawkins. The group ran from students, employees from ITT/Courier, to bikers. Roller blading on the ASU campus late, late at night. My life went upside down when my dog was stolen. Kissed Tempe goodbye. But that's just me.

 

[AzPistonsGirl]

IMO having a party on the night after Adrienne went missing would only serve to draw more attention to the roomies. IMO.

 

[AzPistonsGirl]

Adrienne, we need a sign... please be ok and come home soon darlin. We are all here, worrying and caring for you...

 

[lisasalinger]

She went missing around 5am on Saturday morning (after the Friday night party that had ran into Saturday morning)

The roommates then had a Saturday Night Party the same day she disappeared.

Oh yeah roommates, that's cool, just have another party without even asking me if it's ok...

I'm thinking the roomies would have noticed that AS was not checking on her dog and become concerned or at least thought "hmmm maybe we should call her to see if she wants us to feed/walk the dog". this was odd.

Ah, got it. So she was gone a full 24 hours + before anybody really noticed she was a missing person. Not good for an investigation, especially when they have had 2 full nights of random people coming and going.

I suppose if her and her boyfriend were having troubles, it's not totally unusual that he wouldn't have been concerned on Saturday when he didn't hear back from her. He might have just figured she was royally pissed off. And the roommates may have assumed she was over at his place.

Man, talk about your perfect storm of circumstances to get away with a crime, whoever did it.

It does seem unlikely that numerous people could lie and keep the story straight this long. If anybody from the apartment is lying, it is likely only one or two people tops.

IMO

 

[cluciano63]

I think the apt. would have been super clean, if something had happened there Friday night/Saturday morning. Everyone watches CSI.

 

[Bernina]

FWIW - everyone is not saying the same thing here - there have many different theories and possible scenairos.

I do not think Adrienne was totally inebriated. I think things are pretty much exactly as has been reported.

Does the report say that the roommate did not allow the officer to look around?

Go up and click the small pic I put up to make it bigger or hit the link. She just allowed pics.

This thread is just going through the "new eyes" phase. Some of us have been finishing with other trials, waiting on others. If you followed the Arias trial, that's probably where you're seeing peeps taking things a different direction. There was a lot of smoke and mirrors by the perp and her team. So, we tend to question the validity of just about everything unless there's a receipt, ping, picture, or statement that can't be construed as self serving.
That trial had you in the box, outside the box, way left field, the good thing was it opened our heads to other possibilities and leave no stone unturned. Question EVERYTHING.
And the whole idea about WS's is everyone has a different way of looking at things.....and that is what may solve a crime. So we can agree to disagree and still be working in the same direction. I enjoy listening to other peep's take on how they visualize how something happened. It's great mental gymnastics and a challenge.
BTW: I have a tendency to forget to put "IMO, JMO, and MOO" quite frequently, it's a habit I'm working on!
JMO!

 

[cluciano63]

Who said she never drank? Just curious.

 

[gngr~snap]

http://www.kpho.com/story/22926881/surveillance-video-may-offer

:seeya:Video Surveillance picture of cab.
Time Stamp:
06-15-2013 05:00:06

5am Saturday Morning...

 

[WideOpen]

Oh yeah roommates, that's cool, just have another party without even asking me if it's ok...

I'm thinking the roomies would have noticed that AS was not checking on her dog and become concerned or at least thought "hmmm maybe we should call her to see if she wants us to feed/walk the dog". this was odd.

I think with Adrienne being ill and hospitalized for a month and then perhaps going to stay with the parents for her extended recovery and comfort her so called childhood friends and room mates "replaced her". I think Adrienne was still in recovery mode for the most part. Her doctors had just okayed her going back to work, riding her bike, normal things that give perspective to how sick she had really been.

The room mates were carrying on with classes and their partying. Going about their reckless ways with no sincere regard for Adrienne or the seriousness of her frail condition. I can see an opportunist work their way into the mix. Maybe crashing in Adrienne's room and helping supply booze or drugs, maybe paying some bills. Her lease was up when? Were all the girls moving out or were they renewing their lease?

jmo

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Tempe is as good as you make it. Like any place, know your surroundings, CYA. We had our all weekend parties that ended at the river or lake, totally toasted, dragging unknown party goers with us, hit many a party at "Sin City", hangouts were the pool hall that used to be on Mill, just North of University, Minder Binders, Sadie Hawkins. The group ran from students, employees from ITT/Courier, to bikers. Roller blading on the ASU campus late, late at night. My life went upside down when my dog was stolen. Kissed Tempe goodbye. But that's just me.

Yeah I kissed Tempe goodbye after being dosed at a party not once, but twice (and I consider myself a fair observant person, even then I was).

Then I had a friend get shot by a kid he knew since kindergarten bc he had made some money selling green. Kid knocked on my friends door (where everyone hung out), my friend opened the door and got shot in the face. His childhood friend ended up not finding his money, not a penny.

Oh yeah, did I mention this happened around Hardy and we were all only 17-20 years old?

Oh and btw the guy that shot my friend never got picked up by LE, but you can sure bet they tried to throw the book at my friend who had not one violent offense (and was peace RASTA guy) while he was laying in bed with half his face blown off.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

I think with Adrienne being ill and hospitalized for a month and then perhaps going to stay with the parents for her extended recovery and comfort her so called childhood friends and room mates "replaced her". I think Adrienne was still in recovery mode for the most part. Her doctors had just okayed her going back to work, riding her bike, normal things that give perspective to how sick she had really been.

The room mates were carrying on with classes and their partying. Going about their reckless ways with no sincere regard for Adrienne or the seriousness of her frail condition. I can see an opportunist work their way into the mix. Maybe crashing in Adrienne's room and helping supply booze or drugs, maybe paying some bills. Her lease was up when? Were all the girls moving out or were they renewing their lease?

jmo

Hm idk someone else asked about the lease and if it could be up soon. If you find out please let us know.

I would assume their lease probably begins and ends in August. Many of the houses/apts there have leases that begin in August bc it is a college town and the lease terms tend to reflect the influx of students in Tempe during August when the semester is beginning. IMOO

 

[Bernina]

Who said she never drank? Just curious.

One of her roommates said she did not drink, whether in reference to that night, or always. I'll try to find the link, give me a bit......

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Ah, got it. So she was gone a full 24 hours + before anybody really noticed she was a missing person. Not good for an investigation, especially when they have had 2 full nights of random people coming and going.

I suppose if her and her boyfriend were having troubles, it's not totally unusual that he wouldn't have been concerned on Saturday when he didn't hear back from her. He might have just figured she was royally pissed off. And the roommates may have assumed she was over at his place.

Man, talk about your perfect storm of circumstances to get away with a crime, whoever did it.

It does seem unlikely that numerous people could lie and keep the story straight this long. If anybody from the apartment is lying, it is likely only one or two people tops.

IMO

Yes I agree. I don't think it's a large amount of people if there is foul play involved or a cover up of sorts like you said - just 2 ppl tops. Usually any more than 2 and somebody slips up in the story concocted (there's always a third wheel that is less informed and seems to screw it up early on if that were the case)

 

[Bernina]

Yeah I kissed Tempe goodbye after being dosed at a party not once, but twice (and I consider myself a fair observant person, even then I was).

Then I had a friend get shot by a kid he knew since kindergarten bc he had made some money selling green. Kid knocked on my friends door (where everyone hung out), my friend opened the door and got shot in the face. His childhood friend ended up not finding his money, not a penny.

Oh yeah, did I mention this happened around Hardy and we were all only 17-20 years old?

Can we agree, that Hardy has a rep? :floorlaugh:
I was 16-18 when I was there......a fake ID and growing up way to quick!

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

Some groups of people pride themselves on doing a lot of talking but saying a lot of nothing.....

ykwim?


moo

 

[cluciano63]

I really believe Adrienne became a victim by being out at 5am. I don't think her roommates have anything to do with her being missing. But in any event, I hope we know someday.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Can we agree, that Hardy has a rep? :floorlaugh:
I was 16-18 when I was there......a fake ID and growing up way to quick!

Bernina (hugs) you is my soulmates.

 

[Bernina]

http://s296.photobucket.com/user/crankycrankerson/media/Adrienne%20Salinas%20%20-AZ-/071913fF-willHoldVigil.jpg.html?sort=6&o=50
Father said she would drink a few beers socially. Roommates and BF say she is drinking at the party.

I went through the photo bucket stuff, not there, I know that statement has got to be on the previous threads...I went through the bulk of them yesterday. It could have been from the initial start of the investigation :scared: majorly pulling out hair

 

[cluciano63]

http://s296.photobucket.com/user/crankycrankerson/media/Adrienne%20Salinas%20%20-AZ-/071913fF-willHoldVigil.jpg.html?sort=6&o=50
Father said she would drink a few beers socially. Roommates and BF say she is drinking at the party.

I went through the photo bucket stuff, not there, I know that statement has got to be on the previous threads...I went through the bulk of them yesterday. It could have been from the initial start of the investigation :scared: majorly pulling out hair

I don't know if she drank a lot or not. But I can't take what her father says as being true, necessarily. Parents just don't know, no matter what they think.