AZ AZ - Adrienne Salinas, 19, Tempe , 15 June 2013 - #6

[2Hip2BSquare]

http://s296.photobucket.com/user/cr...reportpage12_zpsfa53a36b.jpg.html?sort=6&o=49

((s4s))

"DUGGAN showed me to ADRIENNE'S bedroom, which was upstairs and shared with DUGGAN. The bedroom was in the same condition as the rest of the apartment and DUGGAN confirmed that it was in a usual state as when ADRIENNE was present...............some clothes taken from the right side of the dresser......DUGGAN confirmed that DUGGAN'S wallet did not appear to be present in the room...."

I just caught the "Duggan's wallet" (in red) the upteen time I read this. Wonder if that is a typo? Duggan had just returned from work and met LE, wouldn't her (Duggan) wallet be in her purse?

Also

There are also almost 3 sentences at the very top that are blacked out before the paragraph continues with.........

I've wondered this as well! I believe what you wrote in red was a typo and should read Adrienne
Salinas, not SD! IMOO it seems like a typo as well (and peeves me to no end. Who cares about where Shaney's wallet was?! Hm.). So I really hope this case isn't screwed bc of the responding investigative officers didn't write up the scene properly (all these damn crime scene techs who barely know what they are doing and misrepresent/lose evidence early on...)

And yeah that blacked out area before might have personal
Addresses or something?
It is odd the report asserted she had no ongoing medical issues when she had just began recovering from a lung infection that caused the lung to collapse and give way for a thoracotomy (you know where they open up your chest and operate) and following this was on a tube directly fed into her chest for months. Laid up in a bed unable to move let alone breath or eat. This is not a small medical issue or procedure. So many things about this P me off. Seriously.

Typos and inaccurate descriptions of the victims health. Oh yeah, thats normal! (staples head to wall)

Ok I'm done.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

I don't think the police report is going to be enlightening enough to make a real difference. Whatever is in it, LE has known all this time and it has not seemed to help in finding Adrienne or bring about an arrest.

Ain't this the truth! Especially if the report seems to have been vague/half A'd in the first place.

 

[Bernina]

I've wondered this as well! I believe what you wrote in red was a typo and should read Adrienne
Salinas, not SD! IMOO it seems like a typo as well (and peeves me to no end. Who cares about where Shaney's wallet was?! Hm.). So I really hope this case isn't screwed bc of the responding investigative officers didn't write up the scene properly (all these damn crime scene techs who barely know what they are doing and misrepresent/lose evidence early on...)

And yeah that blacked out area before might have personal
Addresses or something?
It is odd the report asserted she had no ongoing medical issues when she had just began recovering from thoracotomy (you know where they open up your chest and operate) and was on a tube directly fed into her chest for months. Laid up in a bed unable tools let alone breath. This is not a small medical issue or procedure. So many things about this P me off. Seriously.

Typos and inaccurate descriptions of the victims health. Oh yeah, thats normal! (staples head to wall)

Ok I'm done.

The 3 lines blacked out were part of that paragraph about medical psychological conditions and the "any other" caught my eye, so we don't know if she was taking meds, but SOP for VF is anti-fungals and your immune system is compromised. It's easy to be fatigued, feel "flu-ish" all the time, heat exhaustion is an issue. And with the surgery/recovery, she was not in the overall best of shape.
My dad's doc put him on some medication that was orange and had codeine in it, dad had cases of it. I think my dad became addicted to it. That was in the 60's, but I do know it involved VF in his lungs. Weird part is, caucasians are the least likely group to get VF, and he was 1st gen US Swede. I never got it, and I and my 2nd ex had a landscaping business in Scottsdale for 5 years. That's like tap dancing on Ground Zero, or snorting pure VF inducing spores up your nose. :scared:

Yep, my middle name is "Danger" :floorlaugh:

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

The 3 lines blacked out were part of that paragraph about medical psychological conditions and the "any other" caught my eye, so we don't know if she was taking meds, but SOP for VF is anti-fungals and your immune system is compromised. It's easy to be fatigued, feel "flu-ish" all the time, heat exhaustion is an issue. And with the surgery/recovery, she was not in the overall best of shape.
My dad's doc put him on some medication that was orange and had codeine in it, dad had cases of it. I think my dad became addicted to it. That was in the 60's, but I do know it involved VF in his lungs. Weird part is, caucasians are the least likely group to get VF, and he was 1st gen US Swede. I never got it, and I and my 2nd ex had a landscaping business in Scottsdale for 5 years. That's like tap dancing on Ground Zero, or snorting pure VF inducing spores up your nose. :scared:

Yep, my middle name is "Danger" :floorlaugh:

Yes! Bernina my soul mate I love this ^ and you!

 

[cluciano63]

I've wondered this as well! I believe what you wrote in red was a typo and should read Adrienne
Salinas, not SD! IMOO it seems like a typo as well (and peeves me to no end. Who cares about where Shaney's wallet was?! Hm.). So I really hope this case isn't screwed bc of the responding investigative officers didn't write up the scene properly (all these damn crime scene techs who barely know what they are doing and misrepresent/lose evidence early on...)

And yeah that blacked out area before might have personal
Addresses or something?
It is odd the report asserted she had no ongoing medical issues when she had just began recovering from a lung infection that caused the lung to collapse and give way for a thoracotomy (you know where they open up your chest and operate) and following this was on a tube directly fed into her chest for months. Laid up in a bed unable to move let alone breath or eat. This is not a small medical issue or procedure. So many things about this P me off. Seriously.

Typos and inaccurate descriptions of the victims health. Oh yeah, thats normal! (staples head to wall)

Ok I'm done.

Do you know for sure exactly what was done to her and her recovery period and issues? Just wondering, as I know someone how had a piece of lung removed in a day surgery and was basically okay in a few weeks, no on-going issues.

Anyway, I don't think her health has anything to do with her being missing.

 

[SandSage]

The 3 lines blacked out were part of that paragraph about medical psychological conditions and the "any other" caught my eye, so we don't know if she was taking meds, but SOP for VF is anti-fungals and your immune system is compromised. It's easy to be fatigued, feel "flu-ish" all the time, heat exhaustion is an issue. And with the surgery/recovery, she was not in the overall best of shape.
My dad's doc put him on some medication that was orange and had codeine in it, dad had cases of it. I think my dad became addicted to it. That was in the 60's, but I do know it involved VF in his lungs. Weird part is, caucasians are the least likely group to get VF, and he was 1st gen US Swede. I never got it, and I and my 2nd ex had a landscaping business in Scottsdale for 5 years. That's like tap dancing on Ground Zero, or snorting pure VF inducing spores up your nose. :scared:

Yep, my middle name is "Danger" :floorlaugh:

You are freaking hysterical.

 

[Tonto]

I do not agree that the police report will not be of any help to us in potentially finding Adrienne. Investigators, and LE in general, are reactive bodies. They wait. That's what they do. Whereas, folks like us are a bit more proactive, and we brainstorm and theorize in ways that they often do not or cannot do. Oftentimes, they even get tunnelvision and will either ignore, dismiss, or not even see potentially important information. The answer may be staring right at them in the police report and they don't even know it.

It would help us with facts. It would help us hone our theories. Our work could even help LE refresh their outlook and strategies.

Just because LE has had this information for awhile doesn't mean they have worked it from every angle. They probably have 1 or 2 folks on this case at most. Who, by the way, probably have another 150 'just as important' cases they're working on.

Cases are often solved by tips from the public. Don't sell us short. More importantly, don't sell Adrienne short.

 

[Tonto]

Yep, my middle name is "Danger" :floorlaugh:

Anthony Weiner - er I mean "Carlos" - is that you?

 

[cady]

IMO Inaccuracies may be why the LE hasn't released the report. Also, partygoers may have information but have been or feel personally threatened ??? Dunno

 

[margarita25]

Been working hours on end....lots of catching up to do...any news on Adrienne? Any new developments in the investigation?

 

[Bernina]

Anthony Weiner - er I mean "Carlos" - is that you?

Bawahahahaha!!!! :floorlaugh:

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

If it were the partygoers, IMO it was an accident/joke that got out of hand and there was no intentional foul play involved. I don't think anyone in the group is a psychopathic abductor/murderer.

If not anyone in the group and this was a crime of opportunity for the suspect who was not involved with the party, I can see there that foul play is directly involved in her disappearance.

This is all I got.

Yes, but why then hasn't anyone come out and admitted it to LE? If there's no bad intentions, it should be no problem reporting it.

And yet......

the SILENCE is speaking volumes, to me anyway....

 

[gngr~snap]

Do you know for sure exactly what was done to her and her recovery period and issues? Just wondering, as I know someone how had a piece of lung removed in a day surgery and was basically okay in a few weeks, no on-going issues.

Anyway, I don't think her health has anything to do with her being missing.

I think she was critically ill with VF.
I read she spent 3 days in the ICU and a month in the hospital.
Her weight dropped down to 95#.
IF she was discharged in March she was not given medical clearance to return to work for 90 days.

I mean even back in the day after abdominal hysterectomies, they were only kept out of work 6 weeks (42 days)
When you consider how medicine and technology have advanced over the years 90 days is a LONG time!


I will go look for the link and post it.

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[gngr~snap]

This is NOT the link I am referring to in my previous post BUT I GOT A CHUCKLE -

While there is nothing funny about Adrienne going missing at all, this article refers to AS having a "dungeon phone"
***cell - dungeon ***

Clearly the article has been translated...
Just goes to show how things get lost in translation.
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[Bernina]

I think she was critically ill with VF.
I read she spent 3 days in the ICU and a month in the hospital.
Her weight dropped down to 95#.
IF she was discharged in March she was no given medical clearance to return to work for 90 days.

I mean even back in the day after abdominal hysterectomies back in the days, they were only kept out of work 6 weeks (42 days)
When you consider how medicine and technology have advanced over the years 90 days is a LONG time!


I will go look for the link and post it.

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Her dad was quoted on the LE report that she had not been cleared for work yet. Link I posted above...

 

[gngr~snap]

Her dad was quoted on the LE report that she had not been cleared for work yet. Link I posted above...

This is what I heard him say July 23rd during an interview.

So even that fact has been reported both ways.


" SALINAS: Yes. She endured two basic surgeries in February a couple of days after Valentine`s Day, she had a major surgery where they had to open her chest and remove part of her lung and remove the infection. And she was in intensive care for three days and spent over a month in the hospital, and bedridden with a drain tube coming out of her chest. I spent many nights there with her by her side. She was very strong and brave, and she endured all of that. She was, you know, becoming healthy again. She was probably 90 percent well when all this had taken place.

*** She had been given the OK to go back to work. And that`s what makes this whole thing harder, because she fought through that, she was down to 95 pounds in the hospital, and she was starting to gain weight. I could see it in her face. You know, her face was feeling fuller and she was starting to put weight on again. She had started hiking and riding her bike again, and then this takes place. So it`s a horrible nightmare. "

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1307/23/ng.01.html


Bernina, I am not directing at you personally, but why can't anyone (media or LE) get the facts straight when it comes to something as important as a missing person????


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[ATasteOfHoney]

This is what I heard him say July 23rd during an interview.

So even that fact has been reported both ways.


SALINAS: Yes. She endured two basic surgeries in February a couple of days after Valentine`s Day, she had a major surgery where they had to open her chest and remove part of her lung and remove the infection. And she was in intensive care for three days and spent over a month in the hospital, and bedridden with a drain tube coming out of her chest. I spent many nights there with her by her side. She was very strong and brave, and she endured all of that. She was, you know, becoming healthy again. She was probably 90 percent well when all this had taken place.

*** She had been given the OK to go back to work. And that`s what makes this whole thing harder, because she fought through that, she was down to 95 pounds in the hospital, and she was starting to gain weight. I could see it in her face. You know, her face was feeling fuller and she was starting to put weight on again. She had started hiking and riding her bike again, and then this takes place. So it`s a horrible nightmare.*

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1307/23/ng.01.html


Bernina, I am not directing at you personally, but why can't anyone (media or LE) get the facts straight when it comes to something as important as a missing person????


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Other than her father, did anyone else come to visit her in the hospital? Any bf? Any friends?

Also, not wise to get released from a hospital with a lung issue only to live in a feces/urine infested place. Not ideal, not prudent. MOO.

 

[Bernina]

This is what I heard him say July 23rd during an interview.

So even that fact has been reported both ways.


SALINAS: Yes. She endured two basic surgeries in February a couple of days after Valentine`s Day, she had a major surgery where they had to open her chest and remove part of her lung and remove the infection. And she was in intensive care for three days and spent over a month in the hospital, and bedridden [/uwith a drain tube coming out of her chest. I spent many nights there with her by her side. She was very strong and brave, and she endured all of that. She was, you know, becoming healthy again. She was probably 90 percent well when all this had taken place.

*** She had been given the OK to go back to work. And that`s what makes this whole thing harder, because she fought through that, she was down to 95 pounds in the hospital, and she was starting to gain weight. I could see it in her face. You know, her face was feeling fuller and she was starting to put weight on again. She had started hiking and riding her bike again, and then this takes place. So it`s a horrible nightmare.*

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1307/23/ng.01.html


Bernina, I am not directing at you personally, but why can't anyone (media or LE) get the facts straight when it comes to something as important as a missing person????


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I know! From day one it has been a mess of times, places, this person, that person........So, dad says one thing to LE and another to CNN? (or whatever program produced by CNN)
Was dad just setting a fire, ie, stretching the truth, under Tempe PD since SOP is 48 hours before you can file a MP report if the person is 18 or older? It could possibly be 72 hours? :banghead:

 

[gngr~snap]

Other than her father, did anyone else come to visit her in the hospital? Any bf? Any friends?

Also, not wise to get released from a hospital with a lung issue only to live in a feces/urine infested place. Not ideal, not prudent. MOO.

EXACTLY!!! The disease can relapse.
I worry she may have stopped taking her meds.
The coccidiodomycosis (valley fever)
can attack the brain causing meningitis and I believe that is almost always fatal


It looks like she would be talking medication for 1-2 years.

" Disseminated disease may require months to years of antifungal therapy, and high-risk patients are at significant risk for relapse when treatment is stopped, even after extended courses (years) of treatment. "

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/215978-treatment#5

" The typical recovery period for a lobectomy is one to three months following surgery. "

Read more: 
http://www.surgeryencyclopedia.com/La-Pa/Lobectomy-Pulmonary.html#b#ixzz2awpDdZEE

 

[Bernina]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1307/23/ng.01.html

POOLEY: When she left her apartment after getting in a fight with Francisco, she -- what we know is she took a bag with her. She had packed an overnight kind of stay. She had her keys, she had certain clothing on, and she goes and she leaves. After the accident, we find out that she must have gone home, because she changed her clothes. She changed -- what she was wearing was found at her residence. Her wallet was found. Her car keys were found. That was the only set of car keys that she had, and that was located at her apartment.

POOLEY: The last time she was seen, she was wearing a black polka dot top, some shorts with some leggings, and her shoes. But, like I said, all of that have been found and located at her apartment, so at this time we really have in idea what she was wearing. There was nobody that saw her after that point, after she had gone home and changed. So that is part of the mystery.

POOLEY: We do not have her cell phone. That is the one piece of evidence that we lack. As far as using the cell phone towers, yes, it does indicate she was in that general area the last time before it went off, before her phone went dead. It was in that same area where her apartment is and where all this transpired at.

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