AZ AZ - Adrienne Salinas, 19, Tempe , 15 June 2013 - #6

[gngr~snap]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1307/23/ng.01.html

POOLEY: When she left her apartment after getting in a fight with Francisco, she -- what we know is she took a bag with her. She had packed an overnight kind of stay. She had her keys, she had certain clothing on, and she goes and she leaves. After the accident, we find out that she must have gone home, because she changed her clothes. She changed -- what she was wearing was found at her residence. Her wallet was found. Her car keys were found. That was the only set of car keys that she had, and that was located at her apartment.

POOLEY: The last time she was seen, she was wearing a black polka dot top, some shorts with some leggings, and her shoes. But, like I said, all of that have been found and located at her apartment, so at this time we really have in idea what she was wearing. There was nobody that saw her after that point, after she had gone home and changed. So that is part of the mystery.

POOLEY: We do not have her cell phone. That is the one piece of evidence that we lack. As far as using the cell phone towers, yes, it does indicate she was in that general area the last time before it went off, before her phone went dead. It was in that same area where her apartment is and where all this transpired at.

:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

Just the facts.
Fact the clothes, keys and phone returned to the apartment, only one eyewitness placed AS there.

Yep a mystery!

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[Bernina]

Just the facts.
Fact the clothes, keys and phone returned to the apartment, only one eyewitness placed AS there.

Yep a mystery!

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Yep, 1 eyewitness out of 40-50 people going in and out of that apt for 36 hours.
Who knows, they may even find her cell phone when they clean the apt out. I wonder if a report was made for her cell phone as "stolen", to notify Pawn Shops, and does Verizon or any of the other carriers check the serial numbers on a phone before they take it as an upgrade for a better phone?

Adrienne would be at her grandparent's house right now, settling into her room, and getting ready for her upcoming year of college.
:cry:

 

[cluciano63]

If the lease was in fact up at the end of July, the apartment has likely been emptied out by now. Not sure how we came to be told about the lease ending date.

I do not find it all that strange that she came and went basically unnoticed, especially if that was her intent.

 

[gngr~snap]

OK backing up all the way to the first thread.

"Something happened between those two short blocks to her apartment and her car!" said Adrienne's father Rick. "Something took place."
I think her dad is right.
I do believe this is exactly when/where AS disappeared.
How her stuff ended up in her apartment or who made calls from her cell phone in or near it - I can't explain.
Read more: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/regio...-missing-woman-Adrienne-Salinas#ixzz2axVELDBg.

Early on the roommates said the last time they saw her was leaving in the car to go to boyfriends...
at 3:00am.
*The story changed after the clothing she was wearing when she went missing were found in her apartment.

http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/20130617police-searching-missing-tempe-woman.html


This is how it was originally reported. I can't wait to see the police report and whether it was reported in the initial interview that AS was seen returning to her room after the car accident.

There was a statement made in MSM about how AS left and wrecked the car and that was "it".

I am still looking for who said that and when.

I want to know what IT means...
Moo

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[gngr~snap]

Yep, 1 eyewitness out of 40-50 people going in and out of that apt for 36 hours.
Who knows, they may even find her cell phone when they clean the apt out. I wonder if a report was made for her cell phone as "stolen", to notify Pawn Shops, and does Verizon or any of the other carriers check the serial numbers on a phone before they take it as an upgrade for a better phone?

Adrienne would be at her grandparent's house right now, settling into her room, and getting ready for her upcoming year of college.
:cry:

That is so sad!! !

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[ktgirl]

I'd never heard of Valley Fever before since it occurs in the desert southwest and I basically live in a swamp. It sounds awful! Poor Adrienne.

 

[Hejlena]

I've tried to read most of this thread, but haven't posted yet, so please forgive me if I'm off base. If Adrienne's clothing and other items were returned to her room but no one saw her, she texted her boyfriend but never showed up, and she called for a cab to pick her up away from the apartment, but never showed for the cab, is it possible that all of these things were done by another person in an effort to mislead?

Someone had mentioned possibly seeing two people in her car when it wrecked. Has that been confirmed or even disproven? What if she got in a wreck with this person, and for whatever reason was killed (sorry) or otherwise incapacitated, and then this person and possibly others
1. Returned her belongings to her room to make it look like she had returned
2. Texted/called boyfriend to make it look like she was still alive and well
3. Called a cab to make it look like she was still alive and well

If there was something untoward going on in terms of someone/someone's at her apartment, this could well explain why they wouldn't want a taxi to show up there.

In fact, upon further thought, do we even know for sure that it was Adrienne who wrecked the car? Maybe whatever happened to her happened before the car wreck and the entire ordeal is an effort at a coverup.

 

[gngr~snap]

Here it is.

“She was upset and wanted to go talk to her boyfriend about it. Along the way there she hit a curb, her tires popped, she tried to come back home on the flats and made it to that side street right over there on Roosevelt and that’s the last of it,” says roommate Shaney Duggan.

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/2...desperate-for-answers-in-womans-disappearance

THIS WAS JUNE 18.
Since then Duggan now stated she saw AS return to the apartment and walk upstairs???
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[Bernina]

gngr~snap.................I think we're all :deadhorse:

I tend to agree that there's something that happened from the time she left WITH her boyfriend and soon AFTER her vehicle ended up on 5th Street.
Between 2:00 and 3:30.


Why doesn't the BF feel any bit responsible because he didn't pick up those calls, because if he had, she may have not disappeared? Why isn't he wracked with guilt? Why isn't he saying publicly, "If I had only picked up the cell or met her back at her apartment when she jumped out of my car"? Why aren't we seeing the last person she reached out to, her childhood friend, her BF, the person who called her HIS best friend anguishing over the "could have, would have, should have"? Is he just so incredibly well adjusted that he accepts that s**t happens or is he a cold hearted SOB?

Even adults with years of maturity, will shoulder guilt and responsibility, at least for a while, before they come to grips with the situation.

Back to :deadhorse:

 

[cluciano63]

Why even bother making up such a convoluted tale, when it would have been much easier to say she left in her car and was never seen again? Why dial the BF 32 times? None of that makes sense to me as a part of a set-up. It does make sense to me that Adrienne did that, as I think she was desperate and determined to reunite with him that night, wreck or no wreck. I do not believe such complicated lies would hold up for nearly two months now.

In the case of Lauren Spierer, the people she was with that night seem to have said she walked away on her own and they never saw her again and a few years later, are still sticking to this story, which can't be proved or disproved. They did not complicate the story with fake calls, etc. as far as we know.

I am not sure that anyone's story changed. Perhaps the police report will clear that up. Media reporting has been poor, as usual, so I seldom trust details from any source other than police.

 

[Bernina]

I've tried to read most of this thread, but haven't posted yet, so please forgive me if I'm off base. If Adrienne's clothing and other items were returned to her room but no one saw her, she texted her boyfriend but never showed up, and she called for a cab to pick her up away from the apartment, but never showed for the cab, is it possible that all of these things were done by another person in an effort to mislead?

Someone had mentioned possibly seeing two people in her car when it wrecked. Has that been confirmed or even disproven? What if she got in a wreck with this person, and for whatever reason was killed (sorry) or otherwise incapacitated, and then this person and possibly others
1. Returned her belongings to her room to make it look like she had returned
2. Texted/called boyfriend to make it look like she was still alive and well
3. Called a cab to make it look like she was still alive and well

If there was something untoward going on in terms of someone/someone's at her apartment, this could well explain why they wouldn't want a taxi to show up there.

In fact, upon further thought, do we even know for sure that it was Adrienne who wrecked the car? Maybe whatever happened to her happened before the car wreck and the entire ordeal is an effort at a coverup.

BINGO!!!!! That's exactly where I'm at!

 

[Bernina]

Why even bother making up such a convoluted tale, when it would have been much easier to say she left in her car and was never seen again? Why dial the BF 32 times? None of that makes sense to me as a part of a set-up. It does make sense to me that Adrienne did that, as I think she was desperate and determined to reunite with him that night, wreck or no wreck. I do not believe such complicated lies would hold up for nearly two months now.

In the case of Lauren Spierer, the people she was with that night seem to have said she walked away on her own and they never saw her again and a few years later, are still sticking to this story, which can't be proved or disproved. They did not complicate the story with fake calls, etc. as far as we know.

I am not sure that anyone's story changed. Perhaps the police report will clear that up. Media reporting has been poor, as usual, so I seldom trust details from any source other than police.

Just putting it out there:
It's not complicated because nobody in that apt has to admit knowing about the repeated calls to BF, calls to the taxi, changing her clothes, her return after the wreck, when she left for the AM/ PM. They claim they saw her leave for her BF's, but couldn't tell she was so wasted (taking that turn at estimates of 60-65 mph) that no one took the keys from her? Maybe it's just the way I raised my kids, but they never let their friends drive drunk.
They don't know ANYTHING. "We were partying, we were all getting drunk, maybe we saw something, maybe we didn't, we could have blacked out". That would totally make a lie detector test unreliable. Any reasonable defense attorney would say there were false-positives because the night in question his client was inebriated.
Their alibi is simple.
ALCOHOL.
And everything after 3:00 is just a blur for them
JMO

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

From the AS Missing FB page, about 7 hrs ago, the Admin says that Temp LE and FBI have some promising leads.

:seeya:

 

[Bernina]

If the lease was in fact up at the end of July, the apartment has likely been emptied out by now. Not sure how we came to be told about the lease ending date.

I do not find it all that strange that she came and went basically unnoticed, especially if that was her intent.

I haven't read anything about a lease, but her dad said on MSM that AS was moving in with her grandparents in August and start school again.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1307/23/ng.01.html

 

[mayelf]

I love how everyone comes together on this site to think outside the box and really try and piece together things that others might not have thought of. It is a really great community of people and really proves more minds the better

 

[gngr~snap]

From the AS Missing FB page, about 7 hrs ago, the Admin says that Temp LE and FBI have some promising leads.

:seeya:

FINALLY!!

I thought I was gonna have to come out there and do the job myself!
Lol just kidding!

Crossing my fingers!

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[SandSage]

From the AS Missing FB page, about 7 hrs ago, the Admin says that Temp LE and FBI have some promising leads.

:seeya:

My G-d, I hope that is accurate.

 

[Bernina]

I love how everyone comes together on this site to think outside the box and really try and piece together things that others might not have thought of. It is a really great community of people and really proves more minds the better

I really enjoy it! It's like a huge "Think Tank". There's always someone who will make a comment that will get you back on track if you get too far from the "facts" and everyone's opinion can be considered a "devil's advocate". I can be totally opposite of someone else's belief on one thread and be part of a consolidated front on another.
This one is another that hits home for me because it's in Arizona and happened just a few blocks from where I lived many years ago as a teen of 16/17. I was extremely reckless and wild but never to the point of putting myself in avoidable danger. Maybe having roomies in their late 20's helped, but I just can't get past it that Adrienne wasn't using common sense. JMO

 

[Bernina]

Need some advice here..........am I insinuating that some of the individuals surrounding this case are POI? If it looks that way, PLEASE tell me to cool my jets!

I don't want some "special time" to reflect! :jail:

 

[WideOpen]

I was extremely reckless and wild but never to the point of putting myself in avoidable danger. Maybe having roomies in their late 20's helped, but I just can't get past it that Adrienne wasn't using common sense. JMO

When I factor in the seriousness of her illness and the long and serious recovery it tends to make me question whether Adrienne would have actually been behaving so recklessly. That does just make me shake my head in disbelief. Maybe I am just old. Young people do think they are invincible.

Her father says she is responsible. This night however, paints Adrienne in exactly the opposite light. Was Adrienne not using common sense or is it smoke and mirrors?

jmo