GUILTY AZ - Dale Harrell, 34, beaten to death, Gilbert, 14 Jan 2009 #3

[YESorNO]

Was it AZ?

Maybe it was Florida. :floorlaugh:

 

[rose222]

Michael Kiefer‏@michaelbkiefer·3 mins
Judge Steinle says that if jury comes back with life, he does not need another hearing to decide natural or chance of release after 25 yrs

Wow. This Judge means business! But I thought there is no option of parole anymore in AZ? Why are things so confusing in that state!

 

[rose222]

Then their mother shouldn't have killed. There has to be very bad consequences for very bad deeds, IMO. Can't coddle the children, who won't be children by then, if she is put to death.

Yep. Being a mother isn't a mitigating factor. Quite the opposite as it shows she doesn't care about them at all.

 

[Bernina]

Wow. This Judge means business! But I thought there is no option of parole anymore in AZ? Why are things so confusing in that state!

Maybe it looks good on paper, IDK. I don't think anyone has gotten out after 25 years with a life sentence w/oppertunity for parole.

 

[geevee]

Wow. This Judge means business! But I thought there is no option of parole anymore in AZ? Why are things so confusing in that state!

There isn't anymore but there was when she committed the murder so that option in sentencing is still available to her (but apparently not the judge with a statement like that).

 

[zoey]

I think they are concerned about the day she is actually put to death and the impact it will have on the children who will be fully grown adults by then.

But she put there dad to death and thet weren't fully grown. :blushing:

 

[YESorNO]

You know- I don't like the DP, as I don't believe in the killing of another human being, but I do believe in our justice system (such as it is) and since we have a jury system, I have to go with what they say (even if I don't agree sometimes) and with what the families of the victims want. It didn't happen to me or my family/friends, etc.and it's not about me, IMO.
Just saying.

 

[east2west]

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 20s

They are back to deliberating #MarissaDevault

Deliberating what time to come back tomorrow.

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[rose222]

Deliberating what time to come back tomorrow.

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And can they also consider abuse as a mitigating factor. :banghead:

 

[Bernina]

You know- I don't like the DP, as I don't believe in the killing of another human being, but I do believe in our justice system (such as it is) and since we have a jury system, I have to go with what they say (even if I don't agree sometimes) and with what the families of the victims want. It didn't happen to me or my family/friends, etc.and it's not about me, IMO.
Just saying.

:clap: Exactly! Very well said!

 

[rose222]

You know- I don't like the DP, as I don't believe in the killing of another human being, but I do believe in our justice system (such as it is) and since we have a jury system, I have to go with what they say (even if I don't agree sometimes) and with what the families of the victims want. It didn't happen to me or my family/friends, etc.and it's not about me, IMO.
Just saying.

These jurors said that they could recommend death. Why so much hesitation when it comes down to it? I really think a lot of jurors are not honest when it comes to this question. Or they say 'yes' when they actually mean they will recommend death only for serial killers and the like.

 

[geevee]

The only thing the question really means to me is they couldn't agree on, or find valid any other mitigating factor.

But this is the same jury who didn't think she intended any financial gain in the murder. Duh.

 

[shiloh42]

I think these penalty phases would go a lot quicker, and be a lot less stressful for everyone concerned, if they did away with the "unanimous" requirement at the *penalty phase*. Let the defense & prosecution make their cases, listen to the impact statements and mitigating factors, let the jury vote, they tell the judge "we're 8-4 in favor of DP" or "we're 10-2 in favor of Life", and then the judge decides. Judge generally goes with the majority but can go either way. Judge will have a clearer head and a much clearer understanding of the law.

 

[Chelly]

Well, they stretched out their short time today and are due to leave in @ 30 minutes.

 

[east2west]

Yawn.

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[Chelly]

The only thing the question really means to me is they couldn't agree on, or find valid any other mitigating factor.

But this is the same jury who didn't think she intended any financial gain in the murder. Duh.

Wonder where AZ gets these jurors? Are they given an IQ test and if their rank is somewhere under 54, get selected for the jury?

 

[YESorNO]

And can they also consider abuse as a mitigating factor. :banghead:

There are 15 mitigating factors for Marissa:

"On Tuesday, in his closing statement, DeVault's lead attorney, Alan Tavassoli, listed 15 mitigating factors. Among them: that DeVault suffered domestic violence and abuse at the hands of her husband and her mother; that she had been sexually abused at a young age, which led her to prostitution and being a stripper in her adulthood; that she had no prior criminal history; and that she showed genuine remorse."


http://www.azcentral.com/

 

[YESorNO]

Wonder where AZ gets these jurors? Are they given an IQ test and if their rank is somewhere under 54, get selected for the jury?

You are funny, but could be. :floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[geevee]

Come on jurors, get this over with.

 

[Bernina]

Wonder where AZ gets these jurors? Are they given an IQ test and if their rank is somewhere under 54, get selected for the jury?

Uh....that explains why I've never been called for jury duty.......?:floorlaugh: