AZ - Gabriel Johnson, 8 months, 26 Dec 2009 - last seen in Texas - #1

[not_my_kids]

Actually its been on the news quite a bit here.

Melissa

Yeah, I typed that a few days ago, before they started publicizing it there.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I don't think she was brainwashed. I think she didn't want the baby from the start and saw the Smiths as a way of getting rid of him.
The Smiths knew that and saw an easy way to get a baby IMO.

EJ or the Smiths gave a rats behind about the fathers wishes. They were all out for what they wanted.

I hope TF Smith is telling the truth when she says EJ wants to tell her where Gabe is.
I don't care who she tells, as long as they find the baby.

But, if she has stayed in contact with them, I bet they already know where he is.

JMO

 

[Kamille]

Exactly, NMK. She said she didn't want him with foster parents, but she had no problems tossing him over to a woman she met in an airport and didn't even know. Doesn't hold water. Mom is a just a spiteful b***h with an out of control violent anger problem who doesn't want her baby - but wants to use him as a pawn. That just doesn't wash.

Omg I need to go to another thread. I'm so mad and 'frushtrated' I can't swallow.

:cow:

My opinion would be that there was a substantial dollar amount attached to this "adoption". So IMO EJ really was trying to sell her baby.

 

[not_my_kids]

Maybe Elizabeth is the one manipulating everyone.

Telling the father that Gabe is dead, manipulation on an emotional level.
Telling Tammi that he is alive...possibly on a financial level.
Not telling the police anything, manipulation to gain and keep control.

Not that I think Tammi is okay in the head, but it is possible that she is a victim of the Elizabeth crazy train.

 

[BeanE]

Ya know, if the Smiths felt Logan was such a danger to Gabriel and/or Elizabeth, why didn't they call 911 DCSF as soon as Eliz took the baby and started saying Logan was threatening her/Gabriel??

I don't believe a thing they say. They're being self-seeking, manipulative, and continuing the endangerment of Gabriel.

:cow:

 

[BeanE]

Maybe Elizabeth is the one manipulating everyone.

Telling the father that Gabe is dead, manipulation on an emotional level.
Telling Tammi that he is alive...possibly on a financial level.
Not telling the police anything, manipulation to gain and keep control.

Not that I think Tammi is okay in the head, but it is possible that she is a victim of the Elizabeth crazy train.

The only one who doesn't seem to be manipulative is Logan. He was torn up in that presser, and seems to be trying to tell what happened in a forthright way, and working with LE.

:cow:

 

[Kamille]

Maybe Elizabeth is the one manipulating everyone.

Telling the father that Gabe is dead, manipulation on an emotional level.
Telling Tammi that he is alive...possibly on a financial level.
Not telling the police anything, manipulation to gain and keep control.

Not that I think Tammi is okay in the head, but it is possible that she is a victim of the Elizabeth crazy train.

That fact that TS has adopted another "relative's" child makes me think otherwise. LE should be checking out that "adoption" too IMO.

 

[momtective]

Reading through TammiFPS's myspace page last night I gathered that last Christmas they were already planning on adopting another child, a girl, little sister for the little girl they adopted. On one of the pic's it said "Maybe next year we'll have our new baby girl." So these people were already in the market for a baby when Tfay met Eliz in the airport.
I honestly think Tfay is behind this whole thing. I hope they throw her arse in jail right along with Eliz.

 

[Kamille]

The only one who doesn't seem to be manipulative is Logan. He was torn up in that presser, and seems to be trying to tell what happened in a forthright way, and working with LE.

:cow:

Totally agree. From all accounts, it seems as though he was trying to make it work with them as a family. He's known EJ since middle school. Probably loved her very much, despite her "issues". Although he's probably said some stupid things in the heat of the moment too.

 

[Courtney1981]

I found Ms Tammifay's FB page. I'm going to go through all 1525 friends and see if there are any in TX--maybe with a new adopted baby...or babysitting for someone.

this could take a while!

In other news....there is a picture of her little girl hugging a baby bear asleep on her FB wall with the caption:
Tammi Peters Smith: "Fell asleep hugging her baby brother's bear wishing he was here!" Dated December, 23
I still believe this woman is behind it all!

 

[Courtney1981]

Did anyone else see this?!

This is comment after one of her comments on her pics
<redacted>
There are pics all over her FB wall of baby Gabe!!! This woman had no intentions to truly help Elizabeth-she wanted a baby and she wanted Gabe--
IMO

 

[momtective]

Well Tfay...your little friend EJ is full of , so she could probably really use your services about now!

 

[momtective]

Did anyone else see this?!

This is comment after one of her comments on her pics


There are pics all over her FB wall of baby Gabe!!! This woman had no intentions to truly help Elizabeth-she wanted a baby and she wanted Gabe--
IMO

Would someone plz screen cap this and send it to the FBI and Az LE!

 

[Courtney1981]

From Tfay's fb


Well Tfay...your little friend EJ is full of , so she could probably really use your services about now!

LMBO!!!:rolling:

 

[LogicalMinds]

I found Ms Tammifay's FB page. I'm going to go through all 1525 friends and see if there are any in TX--maybe with a new adopted baby...or babysitting for someone.

this could take a while!

In other news....there is a picture of her little girl hugging a baby bear asleep on her FB wall with the caption:
Tammi Peters Smith:<redacted> Dated December, 23
I still believe this woman is behind it all!

Behind it all?? No "real" loving mother would give up their baby like this or play these mind games

I want to see the so called "mother" get her share of the blame no matter which way this falls....dead, alive, sold, whatever...I pray this baby is alive but I really can't give the so called mother any slack any way it falls

 

[Courtney1981]

Would someone plz screen cap this and send it to the FBI and Az LE!

How do i do that?!
I'll be more tha happy to if you can tell me how!

BTW she accepted my friend request--i figured out of 1525 friends, she;;d never know if she knows me or not! I'll just tell her she cleansed my colon once or twice lol

 

[momtective]

Courtney1981, where are you seeing that comment. I'm on her fb but all I have is her info, no profile no pics. Help! TIA

 

[Courtney1981]

Courtney1981, where are you seeing that comment. I'm on her fb but all I have is her info, no profile no pics. Help! TIA

She accepted my friend request, thats how i see it all! i can e mail it to you but i dont know how!:innocent:

 

[not_my_kids]

Screen caps - On Windows base, hit Print Screen (usually at the top of the keyboard,) and Ctrl at the same timewith only the screen that you want the picture of open.
Open a new Paint document, right click on it and hit Paste.
Then save it.

This is the only way I know to do it.

 

[momtective]

How do i do that?!
I'll be more tha happy to if you can tell me how!

BTW she accepted my friend request--i figured out of 1525 friends, she;;d never know if she knows me or not! I'll just tell her she cleansed my colon once or twice lol

open the fb page to that comment. press CTRL and Prt sc (top row of keys on the right.)(print screen). It will save whatever is visible on your screen to the clipboard. Then, open up Paint and do a CTRL+V (control/paste). The image from your screen will then be in paint. Next, if you need to crop it or remove the edges, the functions are there in Paint.