AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #17

[Lava]

Just my opinion...

The wall thing in the presser was described as a "note"...not a scrawl (which NG described it at). So, if it is true, we aren't dealing with a scribble, we aren't dealing with height recording, we are dealing with something someone perceived to be at least relevant. Given how Isabel was described in the beginning it wouldn't surprise me if she could write a coherent sentence on a wall. IMO. I think if the reporter brought it up, and it exists, it may be important here.

Now about LE's statement about it. While Hawke said she had no knowledge of it, and I don't think she has insight into every piece of the investigation - only what LE wants out there, she also said about evidence that may or may not have been found: "We will not confirm nor discuss it".

 

[cluciano63]

There was even talk of Kyron maybe being taken to Mexico, at one time, and I think LE even looked into, if I am not mistaken. And Hailey Dunn, I believe. I don't think it is all that unusual in this case at all, considering the location. JMO

 

[Shelby2]

I haven't been able to find a video or audio of this press conference, other than the 45 seconds on KVOA. If anybody has a link, I'd appreciate it!

TIA

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/category/179377/video-center?clipId=7285968&autostart=true

 

[Curious Me]

By now, if RC still doesn't have some doubts about her husband and be voicing them to LE, I'd find that surprising.

Also, I wish NG would find more people in the family's social circle that have been guests in the Celis home, seeing as Joe Vega was not that close of a personal friend of SC's if he's never been inside the home. Don't SC and RC have any couple friends over? Who do they allow/invite into their home is what I want to know.

 

[simlyme]

Certainly is. Just asking if this other source you mentioned was listening live to the TPD scanner feed. Thanks.

No, she was NOT listening to it live, a few posts back tonite Nvgirl put a link out to some alien site out here on ws, I went to it and heard the tape alien site had up, she claims there was an explosion that nite, she says she did a rewind on TPD scanner, and heard this, NO TIMESTAMP, NO INDICATION THAT THAT RECORDING WAS FROM THAT NITE, as far as Im concerned the owner of that site looks for anything, anywhere to convince herself that aliens are out there. None of it makes sence, BUT, most importantly an ADMIN made sure to remove the posts and give warning.
So, unless someone verified can give us a 100% correct recording from the
TPD scanner feed that indeed there was an explosion at 3:00am on the morning ISA went missing,then its a rumor. :woohoo:

 

[Curious Me]

Wake me if anything new gets released. 'Night Folks. fftobed:

 

[pieper4]

By now, if RC still doesn't have some doubts about her husband and be voicing them to LE, I'd find that surprising.

Also, I wish NG would find more people in the family's social circle that have been guests in the Celis home, seeing as Joe Vega was not that close of a personal friend of SC's if he's never been inside the home. Don't SC and RC have any couple friends over? Who do they allow/invite into their home is what I want to know.

I'm not at all sure that RC does not have some significant degree of complicity. At least in my various scenarios. KWIM? Just because SC is out of the family "home" (wherever that may presently be) doesn't mean LE isn't looking at her as well. She may just have been deemed the better choice to care for the sons for the time being. Ie, Mom knows how to cook; Dad doesn't. Mom has a better support system, etc.

 

[Prof]

Peeps, I know we all want to work hard to find Isa, and that's what brings us together on this thread.

But please remember that WS works so well because we have rules that we rely on our posters to follow. Rules like not posting links to unapproved sites, or not posting wild speculation about a case.

It's not always fun, following the Rulez, but it's worth it. Sometimes another site seems to have a "scoop." That's fine. Our members will find the info, sleuth out the truth of the situation, and come to their conclusions on their very own.

Soooo... guess what I'm saying is, review the rules, and follow them please.

:tyou:

Bumping up one of the Moderators' reminders on this thread, as someone was asking the rules.

The rules are linked in ynotdivein's post above.

 

[pieper4]

Bumping up one of the Moderators reminders on this thread, as someone was asking the rules.

The rules are linked in ynotdivein's post above.

I will admit. I've never read a manual in my life. I just tend to go on common sense... and this includes a bazillion different sites' ToS. I trust that if I cross a line, I'll be notified. But I also try VERY careful to be measured, rational and explicit in my personal "take" on things. If anyone sees anything from me to the contrary here, I would kindly ask for a PM.

 

[Shelby2]

No, she was NOT listening to it live, a few posts back tonite Nvgirl put a link out to some alien site out here on ws, I went to it and heard the tape alien site had up, she claims there was an explosion that nite, she says she did a rewind on TPD scanner, and heard this, NO TIMESTAMP, NO INDICATION THAT THAT RECORDING WAS FROM THAT NITE, as far as Im concerned the owner of that site looks for anything, anywhere to convince herself that aliens are out there. None of it makes sence, BUT, most importantly an ADMIN made sure to remove the posts and give warning.
So, unless someone verified can give us a 100% correct recording from the
TPD scanner feed that indeed there was an explosion at 3:00am on the morning ISA went missing,then its a rumor. :woohoo:

Well...IF someone can find it on rewind it would be interesting..if it did happen I wonder if the firefighters who responded noticed anything....

 

[Prof]

LOL I did check in late to catch up and see if we got another late night TPD tidbit...nope!

 

[Shelby2]

Omg!! Yes that site wAs weird but that was not my point. My point was i had heard about that exact incident weeks ago.... Same thing minus the alien part plus if you would have listened to the video better then you would have heard what she said. She said she stumble on that info and she normally doesnt report anything but alien stuff but thought that was interesting.

Do you know if it was very close to the Celis home?

 

[Shelby2]

Police aren't giving up and neither are volunteers. On Thursday evening, more than a dozen gathered near Broadway and Craycroft to redistribute hundreds of flyers.

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/18535403/volunteers-repapering-streets-with-missing-isabel-flyers

More than a dozen? That's all?

 

[cluciano63]

I guess someone needs to stay up since the news in this case seems to come in the middle of the night somehow...

 

[Shelby2]

http://azstarnet.com/news/local/cri...cle_910228ae-c75d-52bd-b1d0-10f3ea7b14ee.html

However, Hawke, a police spokeswoman, did say the previous CPS contact made with the Celis family "was not a TPD-initiated investigation, so it's not something that we have very direct knowledge about."

 

[Prof]

Thanks Shelby, that's good to point out. I was going through the crime reports from December. I can stop now lol

 

[Prof]

Could be PCSD? or could be school, neighbors, who knows.

 

[Shelby2]

Ugh...WS acting up yet again...

I didn't know if it was that or the neighbors Wi-Fi

 

[Shelby2]

Could be PCSD? or could be school, neighbors, who knows.

Actually it could also be the parents. At least in my state, it's not uncommon for families to ask CPS (We call it Department of Family Svs. now) for help.

 

[cluciano63]

Actually it could also be the parents. At least in my state, it's not uncommon for families to ask CPS (We call it Department of Family Svs. now) for help.

I could see that, if they were having trouble with a teen, for example, except RC strikes me as being rather private...also being a nurse, seems she would have access to other services or counseling, for example. There is a stigma attached to the very idea of CPS for many. JMO