AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #18

[curiousc]

Back to the no contact order. I also think that the 10 year old is a witness to something and this is a method of ensuring his testimony won't be tainted. It seems strange that LE took the parents and 14 year old individually into the house, but never the 10 year old. And 10 year olds have good memories and do not usually fabricate stories. I think the 10 year old knows something.

 

[cluciano63]

Back to the no contact order. I also think that the 10 year old is a witness to something and this is a method of ensuring his testimony won't be tainted. It seems strange that LE took the parents and 14 year old individually into the house, but never the 10 year old. And 10 year olds have good memories and do not usually fabricate stories. I think the 10 year old knows something.

The only thing is, he is with his mom, who seems to be defending Sergio, so if this were true, she would have every opportunity to convince the child he was wrong...JMO

 

[curiousc]

The only thing is, he is with his mom, who seems to be defending Sergio, so if this were true, she would have every opportunity to convince the child he was wrong...JMO

I know, I had thought about that too.

Back to my original theory and that the case in December is related to the case know of Isa going missing and it's a sexual allegation. It is my opinion, but I strongly believe this is the case.

 

[Kimster]

FWIW I just asked a close relative who is LE in AZ what the "local feeling" is for what happened to Isabel. They responded to me that their friend is a US Marshall and that "word" is that "the dad" has serious drug debt related to the cartel and that Isabel is most likely in Mexico and is dead.

Even after the cartel word being thrown around here so frequently, it really shocked me to hear that reply.

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[pieper4]

How's this. We ain't seen hide nor hair of him lately.

Or... he done vamoosed.

(pun intended)

 

[Mjskit]

Your post made a thought come to my mind. If the abduction of Isabel was done as a revenge for something then that could also explain why CPS has separated Sergio from the two sons. Maybe the CPS order is to protect the sons from any futher revenge plots. Just a thought, and based only on the speculation that the abduction is a result of a revenge plot. MOO

But how can CPS protect the kids from unknown people? Unless LE is also protecting them. Maybe is Sergio is separated from his family the abductor will contact him and tell him their demands.

 

[pieper4]

I give up lol.

Don't give up. All is not lost. We will prevail. Oh wait, I'm in cliche hell...

I don't think anyone has *said* where Uncle Cousin JM is or has been. He's poofed it appears. Maybe he's resumed a childhood fantasy of being deep cover...

 

[mamamia54]

Well azmary, if you are talking 1995, and Sergio was 25, and he didn't marry until 1997 then unless he was married before at that point he couldn't have two boys. So maybe he isn't the person you were thinking of?

 

[azmary]

Well azmary, if you are talking 1995, and Sergio was 25, and he didn't marry until 1997 then unless he was married before at that point he couldn't have two boys. So maybe he isn't the person you were thinking of?

The two boys were not this mans children, they were my co-workers boys.

 

[passionflower]

Tomorrow will be 1 month already. Where is little Isa?

 

[liz b.]

I don't believe there has been any mention of JM at the vigil last night?? .. of course I could be wrong and someoneplease. Correct me if so..

On a totally different note that I've still yet to find out.. if anyone knows or has a link to the neighbor having totally changed her original statements about the Celis family being a quiet normal family and not seeing people coming and going from their home...to the statement about suspecting drugs were involved at thehome and even possibly drug cartel connection..

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Smooth, The neighbor said that she had heard RUMORS about "cartel involvement ". IIRC, she di not mention that there were lots of people coming and going from the Celis' home.She said that she would sometimes see them having a family cookout outside . I do not recall her saying that she suspected drugs or anything like that.She seemed to say that she really didn't know them that well. She had been living in her mother's guest house,for what,about 8 months ?

Going from memory...JMO

 

[Okay then]

Or... he done vamoosed.

(pun intended)

I read earlier in the thread he had a recent court date and appeared. IIRC

 

[WhatsupAZ]

Well azmary, if you are talking 1995, and Sergio was 25, and he didn't marry until 1997 then unless he was married before at that point he couldn't have two boys. So maybe he isn't the person you were thinking of?

Wait, I understood her post to mean that the nurse lady involved had two sons and maybe an inference of foul business...??¿

 

[jennapuppy]

The two boys were not this mans children, they were my co-workers boys.

Did her children get along with him?

 

[pieper4]

The COLUMBIAN drug cartel is a Hispanic run corporation. If it was a black family we might be inquiring about the Crips or the Bloods. If it was a young white family we would be asking if they were Juggaloes. Or SkinHeads...

The Los Zetas are not Colombian. They are Sinoloa-based (state in Mexico). As is/was the Gulf cartel and numerous others. These are the cartels who benefited from the fiasco called Fast and Furious.

ETA: but yes, you are correct. If we were talking about a missing child in Chinatown, NYC, we'd inevitably be discussing the Chinese gangs.

 

[Patty G]

The two boys were not this mans children, they were my co-workers boys.

What is it that you are holding back and giving us only hints about the nurse and her two boys, and if it is him, he will be arrested.

 

[mamamia54]

Wait, I understood her post to mean that the nurse lady involved had two sons and maybe an inference of foul business...??¿

Yes, I misunderstood, sorry. I think I need to head to bed now lol.

 

[azmary]

Did her children get along with him?

It appeared they did.

 

[azmary]

What is it that you are holding back and giving us only hints about the nurse and her two boys, and if it is him, he will be arrested.

I am holding back a rumor. If you can't figure out what I said I am sorry.

 

[callyn]

Yes, I misunderstood, sorry. I think I need to head to bed now lol.

me too, my brain and eyeballs need to recharge....but it's so hard to leave...there's always just one more post I have to read, lols.