AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - # 2

[Knox]

???????

Is this something to do with the dogs getting out? Would those be criminal charges?

 

[dimples37398]

Is this something to do with the dogs getting out? Would those be criminal charges?

I was wondering the same thing about those charges listed.

 

[Knox]

I was wondering the same thing about those charges listed.

Two different cases, 5 counts on one, three on the other. Trying not to jump the gun and make an incorrect assumption. The charges were filed two days before Isabel disappeared (04/19).

 

[carmenugt]

Why were her windows unlocked? Do parents of young children, nowadays, let them sleep in their room alone with open windows. Does anyone sleep with their windows open, on the ground floor, anymore? I don't. I don't care if the neighborhood is perceived as safe.

 

[deelytful1]

I've been following this story. I can't stay away and i can't stop thinking about Isabel. She is so adorable and looks like such a sweet little girl.
Life is so cruel sometimes.
Why do bad things have to happen????? Especially to good people?
I pray so bad that she is found alive and safe and unhurt.
I can't even imagine where she is.

(I just have to say something though. I DO think that sometimes people get caught up in their own "rules" or how they "think" things should be. In my opinion, life doesn't have to be so "strict" or "this way or that way".
If my kids are up really late sometimes, and they sleep till noon somtimes, does that make me a horrible mother?? I don't think it does, but sometimes reading people's comments on here makes me feel that way for sure! I'm just saying how i feel....definately not trying to start anything.
Also....if my kids have no school or nothing to do for the day and we are just hanging out at home on a rainy day playing video games and watching tv and they have "comfortable clothes" on all day.....like athletic shorts and a t-shirt, is it horrible that they go to sleep in those close later that day? Does that make me a bad mother too? It's like having a "jammie day" Whod doesn't do that sometimes? But sometimes it feels like we're all so jaded on here that we become judgmental about these little details when really we're just relaxing a little bit in our lives. Does anyone agree? I would hate to be judged or looked suspiciously at for things like that. I don't understand it. And i also think it's ok to skip a shower once in a while. It's not the end of the world or bad parenting. Again, that's just my opinion lol. Ok i'm done. Sorry....i don't usually say much.....It could be the pain meds i'm on, but i'm just feeling really sensitve tonight about a lot of stuff.)

Please Isabel......come home to your family. So many of us don't even know you love you to pieces. I can't imagine how your family feels. <3 Big hugs to you tonight baby girl.....and to your mommy and daddy and big brothers. <3

LOVE this post! Who made these rules anyway? I do the same things with my boy and feel guilty alot and then have to ask myself "but why??" Life is too darn short (as all of the WS followers know ALL too well!) Why live it with constant rules and ridiculous restrictions? My son is an uber happy kid as I'm hoping Isabel was (is!)
I'm praying for her safe return.. We've seen way too many of these cases with not enough happy endings. Please Lord make this one have a happy ending!!! lease:

 

[twall]

Why were her windows unlocked? Do parents of young children, nowadays, let them sleep in their room alone with open windows. Does anyone sleep with their windows open, on the ground floor, anymore? I don't. I don't care if the neighborhood is perceived as safe.

No, I do not. I don't care how stuffy the house is, I will not open the windows for cool air, I would rather run a fan or the a/c than have an unwanted visitor.

 

[Anita Richman]

Is this something to do with the dogs getting out? Would those be criminal charges?

I don't know. I don't believe so, unless there was criminal damage done by the animals. Hmmmmm. Where are AZLawyer and the other local attys?

 

[carmenugt]

???????

The link leads to a sign on page..:banghead:
Can you download the documents?

 

[soyesterday]

Again, so not trying to judge....
but there is no way in h*** i would sleep on the ground floor w/ the windows unlocked or especially open....and i especially wouldn't let my child do it!!!! Oh my word!!!!
I check my doors and windows all time. (Yes, i'm a freak).
But anyway, i remember not too long ago...maybe a couple months ago....i happened to check a window in my living room and it was totally unlocked! I was so freaked out! I don't know how it got unlocked or how long it had been unlocked for cuz i go crazy double checking them all the time when i shut them at night.
There is just no way......no way.......

 

[Knox]

Where is the news story about the dogs getting out?

 

[WillenFan21]

Why was a six year old put to bed at 11PM at night? That seems a little late. Not that it had to do with anything but just saying. I hope that they find Isabel safe. She is adorable!

 

[kai]

Why were her windows unlocked? Do parents of young children, nowadays, let them sleep in their room alone with open windows. Does anyone sleep with their windows open, on the ground floor, anymore? I don't. I don't care if the neighborhood is perceived as safe.

They do, unfortunately. I visited a friend, a mom of several children a few summers ago, and her family slept with windows WIDE open at night in the middle of a neighborhood. Needless to say, the room I slept in with my daughter right next to me was locked and secured as much as I could secure it. I was shocked to see security meausres so lax compared to our home.

 

[liltexans]

TUCSON - At the 8 p.m. news conference about the disappearance of Isabel Celis, Tucson Police announced that investigators completed the search of the landfill for the day at about 4:30 p.m. The search will continue Tuesday morning at 6 a.m. and is expected to wrap up about 2:30p.m., at which time police will announce if anything significant was found.
Meanwhile, detectives will remain on the scene throughout the night, including some who will continue to make contact with those living in the neighborhood who may not have been home during the first days of the search for Isabel.
Tucson Police did say officers, as a matter of normal procedure are searching the area for surveillance video that might help them in this case, but would not say if they have found any at this time.
TPD also said a second search of the Celis property Monday was prompted by an alert by an FBI canine team. That was used as the basis for obtaining another search warrant and that search was ongoing as of 8 p.m.

http://www.kvoa.com/full-coverage/finding-isabel/#fcanchor

 

[soyesterday]

LOVE this post! Who made these rules anyway? I do the same things with my boy and feel guilty alot and then have to ask myself "but why??" Life is too darn short (as all of the WS followers know ALL too well!) Why live it with constant rules and ridiculous restrictions? My son is an uber happy kid as I'm hoping Isabel was (is!)
I'm praying for her safe return.. We've seen way too many of these cases with not enough happy endings. Please Lord make this one have a happy ending!!! lease:

Wth lol....it will let me "thank" anyone else's post but not yours lol.
Why???
Here's my "thanks" for now until it will let me lol.
I agree. "Life is just way too short for all these rules!" Jeez!

 

[carmenugt]

Again, so not trying to judge....
but there is no way in h*** i would sleep on the ground floor w/ the windows unlocked or especially open....and i especially wouldn't let my child do it!!!! Oh my word!!!!
I check my doors and windows all time. (Yes, i'm a freak).
But anyway, i remember not too long ago...maybe a couple months ago....i happened to check a window in my living room and it was totally unlocked! I was so freaked out! I don't know how it got unlocked or how long it had been unlocked for cuz i go crazy double checking them all the time when i shut them at night.
There is just no way......no way.......

My questions was totally non-judgmental, as well. However, when I first heard of the case, the fact that the window could be opened struck me as "odd." I would think a childs window would be locked and secured by parents. Althogh, I am a websleuther, an ER nurse and involved in a crime project. So I don't have the best view of humanity.
Also, does anyone know if the mother works at a hospital. Seems like 630am is late to y leave to work. You have to be in report by 7am. Does she live close by the hospital? Was she running late?

 

[soyesterday]

They do, unfortunately. I visited a friend, a mom of several children a few summers ago, and her family slept with windows WIDE open at night in the middle of a neighborhood. Needless to say, the room I slept in with my daughter right next to me was locked and secured as much as I could secure it. I was shocked to see security meausres so lax compared to our home.

Ugh....why? How can people sleep comfortably at night like that anymore???? I just couldn't!!! You did the smart thing!!!

 

[dsntslp]

http://www.wunderground.com/history...tml?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA

Tuscon, AZ
4-19-2012

Max Temperature 88 °F
Min Temperature 56 °F

If it was 56 degrees by 11 pm I would think the windows would be closed.
But I guess it would also depend on how fast the house cools down once the sun goes down.

Ours doesn't actually cool down until early morning due to heat build up in the attic radiating back downward.
But, I am in FL and we have humidity.

Somebody in AZ weigh in here, lol. Please.
Does 52 degrees feel like 52 degrees there?

 

[Anita Richman]

The link leads to a sign on page..:banghead:
Can you download the documents?

Yes, but I don't know if I can post them here. If you can go to that link, enter the dad's name and birthdate of 12/1970.

 

[Dr. Know?]

Go to that link and put in mom. Surprising.

 

[Anita Richman]

My questions was totally non-judgmental, as well. However, when I first heard of the case, the fact that the window could be opened struck me as "odd." I would think a childs window would be locked and secured by parents. Althogh, I am a websleuther, an ER nurse and involved in a crime project. So I don't have the best view of humanity.
Also, does anyone know if the mother works at a hospital. Seems like 630am is late to y leave to work. You have to be in report by 7am. Does she live close by the hospital? Was she running late?

We don't live in a one story, our bedrooms are on the 2nd floor, but we do sleep with the windows (screens on) open during the season when the days are hot and the nights are cooler. I know many of my neighbors do, as well.

If the Celis' slept with their windows open, they are close enough to Broadway that they would hear all kinds of noise all night long. Broadway is one of (if not THE) busiest thoroughfares in Tucson. Foot traffic, a bbq joint, buses, etc.