AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - # 2

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" FBI K-9 dogs hit on items around the southern Arizona home of a missing 6-year-old girl on Monday, prompting authorities to take over the house, a police chief said.

Tucson Police Chief Roberto Villasenor said Monday night that the "specialized K-9s (were) flown in" to help in the case of young Isabel Mercedes Celis, who was reported missing on Saturday morning. The dogs "did alert on some things that caused us to go back" to the house, said the chief."

More at link.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/23/justice/missing-tucson-girl/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
 
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Dogs........look at Nicole Simpson's ..........never bit intruder OJ, scared of him
some dogs do run away when in fear...........mine did when my best friends husband did of a massive heart attack, she felt it coming and ran away hours before he died and came back after..............
some big dogs love 'everyone'.....
 
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Elizabeth smart, danielle v It can be done and has been done. :please:

oh yes to many times.
I pray she is alive and found like Elizabeth!!!
maybe a woman wanted her as a daughter.............pray she is safe
 
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Ariz. family says they won't stop looking for girl
By TERRY TANG and TRACIE CONE, AP
2 hours ago

TUCSON, Ariz. — The family of an Arizona girl who went missing from her bedroom over the weekend said they will never give up looking for the 6-year-old.

"We appreciate everyone's interest in finding our daughter, Isabel, and thank all the volunteers who have come out to search for her," the family of Isabel Mercedes Celis said in a statement Monday evening in their first public comments. "We love Isabel and will never give up finding her."

Tucson police are trying to determine what happened to Isabel. Her parents say they awoke on Saturday to find her missing. Police said a window was open with the screen pushed aside.

Since Saturday, investigators and volunteers fanned across Isabel's neighborhood and an area landfill searching for clues. Volunteers posted fliers with a photo of Isabel — about 4 feet tall with brown hair and hazel eyes — holding a school award.

Her parents, identified by friends as Becky and Sergio Celis, told investigators they last saw the first-grader at 11 p.m. Friday. Her mother, a nurse, was at work Saturday when her father went to wake her at 8 a.m. and discovered her missing, police said.

Police call the case a "suspicious disappearance/possible abduction"...

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20120422/US.Tucson.Missing.Girl/?cid=hero_media
 
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It seems like a coincidence to me honestly...JMO

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It could be,be someone could have been stalking the home. So if the stalker left the fence open the friday before and then knew the dog where gone or himself call the pound on the dogs he would have created himself an oppurtunity that might of lead to the abduction happening the next friday. If the stalker was someone the parent know in passing or at they keep tabs on who they stalk. Some stalkers take time to befriend the dogs. An example is Tommy Jones.
I hope every event is checked out for friday nights in that neighborhood even as far back as 6 month.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/23/justice/missing-tucson-girl/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
they never mention what kind of K-9 dogs.
Could her scent lead them to that parking lot beside house? road? fence?
or the scent of death?

I have been reflecting reasons and thoughts about what kind of dogs they would needd to bring in from VA as well 3,500 miles is a long long way for K-9s I know there are well trained dogs on the west coast so I can only think these are specific trained dogs for something not commom to train a dog for.
 
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I would think if they found any sort of evidence in the home that the parents were involved in any way, shape, or form, they would be stalling and the parents would not be allowed in the home yet. That is only my opinion, and stands for absoulutely nothing, but it is what I believe. I hope I'm right.

Not that that makes it much better, but i would like to know that at least this child isn't among the numbers that have to experience the added torture of knowing that the people they love are the ones harming them.
 
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How dare someone go into a house and steal a persons child! I get so angry! I can't imagine what they are going through!
 
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I would think if they found any sort of evidence in the home that the parents were involved in any way, shape, or form, they would be stalling and the parents would not be allowed in the home yet. That is only my opinion, and stands for absoulutely nothing, but it is what I believe. I hope I'm right.

Not that that makes it much better, but i would like to know that at least this child isn't among the numbers that have to experience the added torture of knowing that the people they love are the ones harming them.

The police may have bugged the house, If they feel they found some prove that parents are involved but not enough to 100% prove it. JMO I am not saying i think the parents were involved.
 
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" FBI K-9 dogs hit on items around the southern Arizona home of a missing 6-year-old girl on Monday, prompting authorities to take over the house, a police chief said.

Tucson Police Chief Roberto Villasenor said Monday night that the "specialized K-9s (were) flown in" to help in the case of young Isabel Mercedes Celis, who was reported missing on Saturday morning. The dogs "did alert on some things that caused us to go back" to the house, said the chief."

More at link.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/23/justice/missing-tucson-girl/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

bbm

I see they're now saying "around" the house. It was plastered all over the media sites up until yesterday that cadaver dogs hit inside the house.

IMO
 
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So is it true that they have three dogs? Because I just cannot understand how someone could come into the child's room and take her away, with three dogs in the home at the time. Dogs smell strange humans in the home at night, and they hear the tiniest sounds, like a window being opened from the outside. I really want to know what kind of dogs they are.

Jessica Lunsford's dog was sleeping on her bed when she was taken and didn't make a sound. Whether the dogs barked or not, whether they were there or not, means nothing.
 
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I am using 'we' in the general sense.

Everytime another child is stolen in the night from her/his own bed it tears the very fabric of what we hold dearly...our own personal safety and that of our families.

How can it be..how can it happen.. we always seem to ask, yet, time and time again we have to face the fact that it does happen, and will happen again.

Imo, criminals are getting smarter and it seems more and more cases go unsolved and the victim never found. Does our society inadvertently teach them to be smarter by putting shows on that explains how to be a smarter criminal? Perhaps.

We clamour for anything reasonable. We ask but.. but what about the dogs? I say what about them? Haven't we discussed enough tragic cases by now to know dogs are as unpredictable as humans?

Why didnt the dog bark like crazy when Couey entered the Lunsford home to steal Jessica away from her family? Why didnt the two dogs inside of the Greone home attack, snarl, and alert the Greone family that Duncan had invaded their home? One was an agressive pit bull and the other a large dog also. And other kidnappings had a dog in the victim's home yet no one had a clue their home had been invaded. Do dogs sense evil too and can they also be fearful? I think they can. So having dogs in a home does not prevent children from being taken everytime.

Imo, now we have another bold criminal willing to risk everything to get what they wanted and once again the safety the family felt is gone forever.

I think we like to think taking children from a home is a hard task because if we dont think that.. then the terror and fear it strikes in each one of us is overwhelming. But sadly it is not hard to nab a child. We already know that for we have seen the aftermath of what happened to children who have been abducted right out of their own beds...whether they lived in a mobile home or an upscale residence. These type of criminals are bold and do not discriminate.

I believe whomever this kidnapper is had already cased the place out. He probably stood in the alley at night and watched this family. I think he had already spotted Isa when she wasnt inside of her home and had already chosen her as his victim of choice. All he had to do is find an open window. Windows now dont make any sound when they are raised. He comes in and Isa is sleeping soundly like most children do that are her age. He gathers her up in his arms carefully so as not to awake her. She feels nothing unusual imo as I have no doubt her own parents have gathered her up in their arms many times when she feel asleep to move her some place else.

He has Isa in his arms and he goes out the back exit door and out the back gate to his waiting vehicle he put behind the high fence wall in the back and he drives off with her, imo.

This is only my opinion of what happened.

Regretfully, I do believe another pedophile has struck the hearts of Amercians, and Isa' family this time, and it is not going to end like any of us hopes and prays it does.

IMO

Bravo, Bravo, This is what I think happened. This is exactly what happened to D Van Dam. Westerfield had his eye on her and he went into her home with a dog, father, and two brothers. How gutsy is that? Westerfield didn't leave so much as a hair behind, yet they think he hid in the bathtub behind a shower curtain until he thought the coast was clear before going to her bedroom and carrying her out to his house. That is pretty risky. If these pedophiles are dead set on getting the child nothing will stop them, that is the sickness they have.
 
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IMO, if someone in a household was charged with several local charge misdemeanors, even though it probably means no jail time pending- I feel I can safely bet that there would be some serious stress and perhaps some energetic discussions in the household. Court can mean fines, time off work=less money, name in public under scrutiny, and well obviously the charges of the dog=decisions being made of what to do to prevent it happening again. Who let the dog out?

Good question.Possible that Isabel forgot to close the gate,or didn't close it properly ? MOO
 
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Like some of you, I also feel that too much weight is being given to the dogs also. There are too many variables to be discussed for it to matter. Until we have the facts, we just don't know. They could have slept far away from Isabel's room and not heard anything.

I think the reason why we are questioning this so much is because a dog's barking sends out an alert that a stranger is present. If the person responsible was a family member or "known" person, then they wouldn't bark.

I, for one, am not ready to blame the parents. I think that the quick 911 call is enough evidence for me (at the moment) to hold onto hope that they are innocent. Mom was at work and left immediately to come home after she was notified of her daughter's disappearance.
 
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TPD asks for patience

Tucson Police urge the community to "be patient" as the investigation of missing Isabel Celis proceeds. TPD says they must be thorough in the investigation.

TPD says an investigative briefing scheduled for 7 a.m.
http://www.kvoa.com/news/tpd-urges-patience-during-celis-investigation/


eta: sorry to cut off that snip.. it said the investigative meeting at 7 will determine how the investigation will go the rest of the day
 
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