AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - # 4

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Jane Velez-Mitchell will cover the disappearance of Isabel Celis on her HLN show, Issues, at 7:00 Eastern.
 
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I was out and I just got to watch the parents' plea. It brought tears to my eyes. These poor parents. Just confirmed my feeling that the parents did not harm Isa and they are victims of the cruel kidnapper who took their daughter.
 
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After watching the press conference and reading the posts, I had to take a step-back a little and listen without my heart ONLY because of the Susan Smith case.

Now, this is not to say I feel the parents are involved in anyway, but it also means I haven't ruled them out along with every single friend or relative of the family.

Right now for me, someone knows this family, knows their routine, knows the inside of their home, knows their dogs etc., etc.

I also thought perhaps Isabel just plain walked out of the house on her own, however, with the hits on some sort of scent, that didn't make sense.

So for me right now, everyone is a suspect to me that is close to this family and just don't feel YET that this is a abduction by a stranger.

I sure hope we learn more - SOON!

I wasn't fooled for one second by Susan Smith's crocodile tears. The minute she came out with her fake dry crying jag the very first time, I turned to my husband, and told him 'she killed those boys.' He agreed. I looked at David and THAT was real pain and anquish. What Susan did was very bad acting. Imo, that is why the Sheriff knew all along she had murdered her little boys.

I felt the same today as I did when Mark Lunsford came out or when Steve Greone did. I am very comfortable in believing this family would never ever harm any of their children including Isa. I think they are a very loving family who is in more pain than anyone can ever imagine unless it is a person who has had to walk in the same shoes they have.

But I do understand if others don't feel the same way I do, but I am sticking by the parents, and supporting them totally. I have done it for other parents in the same situation over the years and I feel I should support these distraught parents also.

IMO
 
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It's interesting that they mentioned demands, particularly because that's not a statement you here often in these sorts of situations. It's also interesting that they met with the BAU this afternoon before deciding to make the statement - I'm wondering if the demands statement was suggested by BAU.
 
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I hope the focus remains on finding Isabel and not the parents. Let LE do their job but the public should continue to look for her. Continue to spread the word in social media. Locals should check their property over and over. Call in any credible tips. Check if anyone has been gone from their home since Isabel's disappearance. Any unusual behaviour around the area, etc.

Regardless of what one feels about the parents, a little girl is still missing and needs to be found. :(
 
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I agree with everything you said. Also, dad was the one who went to check on her and she was gone. Mom was already at work so he must feel some sort of guilt for not being there to protect his baby girl even though this probably happened late night or very early morning. I think he must feel he's responsible. The "shoulda, coulda, woulda" must make one crazy. I know it would me. :(

I am a very good judge of character and it has served me well the many years I have been on message boards.

I see nothing but love in this father. I can see him getting his children up on a Saturday morning and preparing their breakfast. I think he would be a cool dad...upbeat and making things fun for his three children. He is a very hands on father, imo, I bet he even helps with the chores around the house. He goes with all of his family to support his sons at the baseball park.Neighbors said they would see him and Isa and he was very protective of her and would carry her on his shoulders.

He is a father and fathers think they are to protect their children at all times so I am sure he is wraught with grief and blames himself somehow. I dont know a parent that doesnt have some guilt if they lose a child even if the guilt is not warranted.

Its just what parents do to themselves because losing a young child isnt suppose to happen.

IMO
 
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It's interesting that they mentioned demands, particularly because that's not a statement you here often in these sorts of situations. It's also interesting that they met with the BAU this afternoon before deciding to make the statement - I'm wondering if the demands statement was suggested by BAU.

The "demands" caught me off-guard, and I wonder if this was a good idea unless LE knows something about the possible perps. What if the "demands" of the perp(s) are unreasonable and could not possibly be met by the parents or supporters? I hope that Mr. Celis did not mention "meeting (your) demands" without the advice of authorities. :moo:
 
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I took "we will never stop looking" in a whole new context this time. I feel that he was telling ISABEL that they won't stop looking. If, as we all assume, the person who took her is keeping up with the media, then it's possible that Isabel, if she was still with him/her would be able to see or hear the TV as well. I know some kidnappers who have kept the children told them their parents had either died, or did not want them anymore, and had put them up for adoption or even sold them, to keep them from trying to leave. If you are a small child, and you do not believe your parents want you back, where are you going to GO? But if she hears her papa on tv telling her he loves her and will never stop trying to find her, he is reassuring her that they DO want her back, and will NOT give up until they get her.
 
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Reporter asking about the RSO who lives 5 houses down who pled guilty to sex assault and rape in 1998. Chief confirms they have talked to him and other RSOs. Will not divulge the conversations or findings.

They haven't ruled out anyone. They haven't ruled out a ransom situation.

Everyone is still a POI.
 
  • #253
They have released the family back to their house, but the family has requested continued police protection at their home.
 
  • #254
Family requested police presence once the house has been released to them. They have released home. They will remain present on a much small scale, but family had not returned home as of yet.
 
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Reward over 30K!
 
  • #256
We still have some houses that we haven't made contact with. We're going to keep trying.
 
  • #257
I don't want people to think we've given up the search aspect. We haven't. We've scaled it down and are working on the investigative phase.
 
  • #258
They moved command post due to weather prediction.
 
  • #259
We moved the command center primarily because of weather. Rain and wind expected tonight/tomorrow. They have a lot of paper and lead sheets that need to be protected. Family was informed of the move.
 
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I am not going to comment on the parents, as I am not any kind of an authority or expert...

I do wish LE could somehow rule them out, if at all possible, and say so publicly. That might go a long way to keep the focus on Isabel.

Any fingerprint evidence should be back soon, if there was anything on the screen, window, bedding, etc...DNA will obviously take longer.

I do feel that this was someone close to Isabel in some way...not the random, roving stranger. The houses just seem too closely packed together, and theirs in particular seems to have been pretty well-protected, between fences, dogs etc...

Anyway, JMO of course.
 
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