AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - # 9

[tlcya]

hmmmm. This cousin angle. Goes right along with my initial instinct that the perp involved is a teen male close family friend or otherwise known and familiar to Isabel.

Will wait to see how this plays out before speculating further.

 

[txanmom]

:wagon:

Hello and Welcome !


MOO ... I agree about the "uncle" ... he's been on my "radar" since the beginning ...

:moo:

I haven't caught up on all the posts yet, I was just looking at JM's facebook pages. Does anyone know what he does for a living? He sure has alot of expensive toys and vacation photos....JMO

curious....

 

[~n/t~]

http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/201...seen-with-family-playing-on-beach/?hpt=ng_bn1

From Nancy Grace's Twitter :

Cleaning crews have just pulled up the family home of #IsabelCelis - why? Call me now: 877-626-2901



I hope I did this right ... I don't Twitter, but saw this from the link that was posted above ...

Could this "cleaning crew" be there to clean up from the search of the Celis' home by LE and the fbi ?

The home was "dusted" for fingerprints ... dogs brought in ... house searched ... ... ...

:moo:

Yes. Of course that is the reason. HLN making it sound like they're hiding something. Good grief. Of all people, NG should know what happens after LE goes into the house looking for evidence! Fingerprinting, open drawers, closets emptied, .....etc etc

 

[PAXIMUS]

A male cousin??? :what:

Isn't that actually the UNCLE? It was sleuthed here earlier that the spokesman who called himself her uncle, is actually the son of the sister in law. Thus he is actually HER COUSIN, Correct?

Would that be Becky's sister's son? Is that what you are saying?

 

[AnaTeresa]

The uncle has been on many people's radar here from almost the beginning and glad to see the truth is finally coming out.

Also, I'm not surprised that it is Nancy Grace who is responsible for breaking this story. And after the beat-down she took here this past two days, good for her.

Respectfully, at this point, I don't think we can say that there is any "truth" coming out. It's standard procedure for LE to investigate family and friends - I would be surprised if they didn't investigate the uncle. However, investigation is not guilt. Taking even a second look at someone isn't necessarily the truth coming out - what "truth"? At this point, we cannot assume guilt for every person that LE investigates in situations like this - this is how we end up with people like Richard Ricci (Elizabeth Smart).

 

[Patty G]

OMG, when things aren't typed right, it could change the entire sentence: "just PULLED UP the family home"; whereas it should read "just PULLED UP to the family home."

 

[dog.gone.cute]

I could not even get a single thread or page or anything to load last night... at all.
Today I can load pages and post again. So, for me anyway... definite progress. :woohoo:

:seeya: Yes, it has improved in the past hour ...

:waitasec: I was wondering IF the "occupiers" got to WS ...

:crazy::crazy::crazy:

 

[MaryAnn]

The uncle has been on many people's radar here from almost the beginning and glad to see the truth is finally coming out.

Also, I'm not surprised that it is Nancy Grace who is responsible for breaking this story. And after the beat-down she took here this past two days, good for her.

I agree. I also fail to see why people don't look at all the good she has done and the missing people that have been found due to Nancy and her show! I guess it's easier to just poke fun at her instead of recognizing her good deeds!

 

[PAXIMUS]

Respectfully, at this point, I don't think we can say that there is any "truth" coming out. It's standard procedure for LE to investigate family and friends - I would be surprised if they didn't investigate the uncle. However, investigation is not guilt. Taking even a second look at someone isn't necessarily the truth coming out - what "truth"? At this point, we cannot assume guilt for every person that LE investigates in situations like this - this is how we end up with people like Richard Ricci (Elizabeth Smart).

It amazes me how fast people jump to conclusions. Well said. We got a good law student here.

 

[FrayedKnot]

I haven't caught up on all the posts yet, I was just looking at JM's facebook pages. Does anyone know what he does for a living? He sure has alot of expensive toys and vacation photos....JMO

curious....

From what can be gathered on his FB, he has lived mainly in FL and AZ. There was some speculation among members that both of those locations would be very good choices if one were in the drug trafficking game.

I tend to agree. Although they are also great locations for swimming pool sales, too, so who knows?

And it remains to be seen if any of it has to do with Isa. But it's got me paying attention, that's for sure.




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[Lark2]

:seeya: I hope so ... I have been having trouble logging on all morning ...

:waitasec: I thought maybe there was a "major break" in one of the cases .. but it doesn't look like it ...

:fence:

I think it has. Now that NG has come out with the info about the uncle, I expect other MSM organizations to pick up on it and have it confirmed publicly soon therafter by LE.

This couldn't have lasted much longer as people need to be told they have a suspect and he is not at large.

 

[Prof]

A male cousin??? :what:

Isn't that actually the UNCLE? It was sleuthed here earlier that the spokesman who called himself her uncle, is actually the son of the sister in law. Thus he is actually HER COUSIN, Correct?

First of all, I personally would consider that this is a very large family with many connected to RC on FB calling themselves aunts and uncles and cousins.

Secondly, what I have seen posted about uncle/cousin on our threads here at WS appears to be rumor. Someone reported something from another site, not news, not LE.

Thirdly, I must have missed the sister-in-law post; however, that is confusing to me. If he is the son of RC's sister-in -law, he would be nephew to RC, not cousin. Of course, unless he's the son of SC's sister, which would be a nephew by marriage.

Most importantly, I consider that NG is the source saying they have a source close to the family.

In summary, if in fact, LE is looking at a cousin, I suppose there could be a chance that it is this cousin JM, if in fact he is an actual cousin, or it could be many of the other real cousins, or any of the "extended family" who call themselves cousins.

Confusingly, I really have not seen the need to spend much time figuring out the familial relationships. I did see enough evidence to know it is complex.
I am still not sure how it is important except to see if JM is the cousin NG is alluding to in her tease to get more viewers.

JMO

 

[PAXIMUS]

It says a male cousin, we have no idea that this refers to the UNCLE Justin Mastromarino. That is speculation at best and irresponsible to assume at worst.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

The uncle has been on many people's radar here from almost the beginning and glad to see the truth is finally coming out.

Also, I'm not surprised that it is Nancy Grace who is responsible for breaking this story. And after the beat-down she took here this past two days, good for her.

:seeya:

JMO, but I will say this on behalf of Nancy : at least she is covering this story for Isabel ...

Yes, there is the "drama" and some "misinformation" ...

But she is keeping Isabel out there ... so I will give her credit where credit is due !

:moo::moo::moo:

 

[PAXIMUS]

First of all, I personally would consider that this is a very large family with many connected to RC on FB calling themselves aunts and uncles and cousins.

Secondly, what I have seen posted about uncle/cousin on our threads here at WS appears to be rumor. Someone reported something from another site, not news, not LE.

Thirdly, I must have missed the sister-in-law post; however, that is confusing to me. If he is the son of RC's sister-in -law, he would be nephew to RC, not cousin. Of course, unless he's the son of SC's sister, which would be a nephew by marriage.

Most importantly, I consider that NG is the source saying they have a source close to the family.

In summary, if in fact, LE is looking at a cousin, I suppose there could be a chance that it is this cousin JM, if in fact he is an actual cousin, or it could be many of the other real cousins, or any of the "extended family" who call themselves cousins.

Confusingly, I really have not seen the need to spend much time figuring out the familial relationships. I did see enough evidence to know it is complex.
I am still not sure how it is important except to see if JM is the cousin NG is alluding to in her tease to get more viewers.

JMO

ALL of the negative crap posted about Justin here is based on the fact that he was wearing a rather large silver chain with a baseball cap, which in some people's mind immediately means he is some sort of bad guy.:what:

I must be horrible with my gold chain and Rolex.

 

[Lark2]

I really think some here may be in denial. But that is my take. I also firmly expect the uncle to be arrested and charged as soon as the forensics are back from FBI.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Yes. Of course that is the reason. HLN making it sound like they're hiding something. Good grief. Of all people, NG should know what happens after LE goes into the house looking for evidence! Fingerprinting, open drawers, closets emptied, .....etc etc

Isnt it a rotten shame that a grieving family cant even have their home cleaned without the media spying on them?

LE makes a darn mess and like you say....Nancy of all people knows that.

imo

 

[PAXIMUS]

I really think some here may be in denial. But that is my take. I also firmly expect the uncle to be arrested and charged as soon as the forensics are back from FBI.

If he is guilty I hope they get him but not jumping to conclusions does not make one in denial. It says male cousin, how you get from that to uncle is beyond me, maybe he is in fact the cousin but I dont know that and I try not to jump to conclusions until I have reason to do so.

Can you give me ANY reason whatsoever beyond THE WAY HE LOOKS, that would make anyone suspect he is involved in this? There are none as far as I know.

 

[FrayedKnot]

The son of RC's SIL would be Isa's cousin, though.

We have no way of knowing if they are referring to JM, but even if so, I agree with some previous posters about familial titles being sort of subjective.

My husband has two cousins that are much younger than him and he always refers to them as his nephews. But of course, they are not.

Nothing really fishy there, just more confusing. Ya know, like this whole case.


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[Kelly Faraday]

OMG, when things aren't typed right, it could change the entire sentence: "just PULLED UP the family home"; whereas it should read "just PULLED UP to the family home."

It's called a typo and humans often make them. I don't really think anyone would get confused and think a cleaning company literally pulled up the family home. They would "git" it as we say here in the south and just read on.

That said, I think it is because of the mess LE made when they processed the house. That is the only reason for the cleaning. Nothing sinister.

More importantly.... where is Isabel???

K.