AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - # 9

[oceanblueeyes]

I know I wrote blanket and it could be comforter, but I did hear they wrapped it into a beach towel. I did see them bringing what appears to be a blanket or comforter and putting it in the car, but didn't see the towel at that point.

What kind of blanket or comforter would be small enough to wrap in a beach towel?

And this is not the proper way to do the chain of custody on evidence. It has to be inside a large bag and sealed before removing it from the home.

Something is screwy with the way this is being reported by the media.

It makes no sense if this is really something connected to Isa's disappearance.

That is about as stupid as VanAtter putting OJs vial of blood in his trunk.

 

[~n/t~]

I know I wrote blanket and it could be comforter, but I did hear they wrapped it into a beach towel. I did see them bringing what appears to be a blanket or comforter and putting it in the car, but didn't see the towel at that point.

What I understood was detectives took something out of the trunk of their car that was already wrapped in what appeared to be a towel and took it into the house. Guests speculating that perhaps it was something that was found inside the home and each family member was asked where the item was.

Also, what appeared to be a comforter was taken from the home and dad had a grocery bag when he left the home.

I hope they took Isabel's bedding before now! If they took a comforter (and I'm saying if because I did not see a comforter being taken out of the home with my own eyes), perhaps it belonged to somebody else inside the home?

One of the guests (don't know his name) said the parents didn't seem to be hugging or close. DUH! They were taken there separately at different times!! Good grief.

 

[Pensfan]

How heartbreaking! This is not looking good for beautiful Isa!! I wonder what was in the towel? Maybe an item of her clothing?

Something that came back from the crime lab that had Isabel's blood or DNA on it?

I wonder whose comforter was just removed from the home. Ugh.

 

[AnaTeresa]

LE is doing everything possible, IMO...getting help from other agencies right away, alerting LE in Mexico, telling locals to look for people acting differently or strangely, asking for videos, etc...they are not showing any tunnel-vision, IMO.

I agree. I think LE have been very broad so far, in what we've seen. They seem to be doing a good job at investigating all possibilities and keeping the whole thing very reserved, so they can get their jobs done. While I have questions over particular things that have occurred in this case, like the video date, overall, I think they've done a good job at not having tunnel vision.

 

[~n/t~]

I am getting confused. So the police had something in the police trunk and they went to the trunk and wrapped it in a towel?

Is Jane showing video of them coming out of the home?

imo

It was already wrapped in a towel. It was taken from LE car (trunk). Nobody knows what was wrapped in that towel.

 

[callyn]

Read what was posted about an hour ago.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Isabel-Celis/135678006565051

Another child had been assaulted, 6 years old, a couple of doors from Isa's house? I'll have to scour for any news on that.

I messaged the author of that post and the response was that it was the incident 10 miles away that was being referred to. sigh....:banghead:

Update: That post has been removed. Had to argue with the poster. smh.

 

[deelytful1]

We're there with their consent to continue the investigation," Pacheco said in an afternoon news briefing.

He said search warrants were not served and investigators were there with the family's permission.

http://www.kpho.com/story/18066868/tucson-police-bring-family-to-missing-girls-home

 

[Patty G]

I messaged the author of that post and the response was that it was the incident 10 miles away that was being referred to. sigh....:banghead::banghead:

So much for the few houses down ....

Ohhhhhhhhhh, again, it all ends up in how someone writes "something" to change the entire sentence into something "that it is NOT".

Good grief, people have been looking for what they posted for hours.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Well he knew he was innocent, so yeah, it would...JMO
Not always the case though.

Sadly, I cant even list from memory, all the others that had to go through the same thing that Mark and his family did and they turned out to be innocent too.

In fact in the last 6 years or so, I cant remember even one case where the majority of the internet chatter was sympathetic to the parents with a missing child and what was being said in the media was negative also.

So Mark is just one of many innocent people that has had to endure the same thing but as LE said today 'its hurtful'.

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

It was already wrapped in a towel. It was taken from LE car (trunk). Nobody knows what was wrapped in that towel.

Thank n/t. So police had it wrapped in a towel and where was it taken to once it was taken from the trunk?

I think that is where I got confused.

IMO

 

[~n/t~]

Just some random observations.

Dad walked with his head down.

Mom not hiding. We saw her face. She appeared nervous, biting lip.

Brother wearing sunglasses and baseball cap. He's the only I noticed who appeared to have some sort of key to enter the home. It appeared to be a metal detected type. (not sure what they're called). The ones you scan to get in. Did anyone else notice that?

 

[~n/t~]

Thank n/t. So police had it wrapped in a towel and where was it taken to once it was taken from the trunk?

I think that is where I got confused.

IMO

It was taken inside the home.

 

[Dr. Know?]

I messaged the author of that post and the response was that it was the incident 10 miles away that was being referred to. sigh....:banghead::banghead:

Thank you! I thought it was wrong. 10 miles equals a couple doors down...

 

[cluciano63]

Could it have been a video camera? To take them inside and tape the interviews?

 

[SmoothOperator]

The biggest thing that it says to me IS THAT THESE PARENTS TRUST THIS LE.. IMO this case is alotfurther along thanmany believe.. jmo..

Plus, I'm assuming they gave their permission for the 14 year old to be questioned alone without a lawyer or the parents being presented... Isn't parental permission needed? So, that's hopeful.

 

[galiuro]

Maybe the towel and comforter are just being used to cover some item they do not want the media to see....now why they just don't use an evidence bag, I do not know. Maybe they don't want the media to see that it is an evidence bag?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

What I understood was detectives took something out of the trunk of their car that was already wrapped in what appeared to be a towel and took it into the house. Guests speculating that perhaps it was something that was found inside the home and each family member was asked where the item was.

Also, what appeared to be a comforter was taken from the home and dad had a grocery bag when he left the home.

I hope they took Isabel's bedding before now! If they took a comforter (and I'm saying if because I did not see a comforter being taken out of the home with my own eyes), perhaps it belonged to somebody else inside the home?

One of the guests (don't know his name) said the parents didn't seem to be hugging or close. DUH! They were taken there separately at different times!! Good grief.

But it couldnt be from inside the house if they were taking it into the house.

They dont take evidence out of the evidence room and take it out in a towel of all things and go back to the house with it. That is just not how chain of custody works.

It makes me wonder if they found a piece of Isa's clothing somewhere and before taking it in to be logged into evidence they wanted to ask the family to identify it and to ask them follow up questions.

IMO

 

[Isabelle]

Whatever could LE possibly remove from the trunk of a police car and wrap in a beach towel, no less? The item was removed from LE's car and not the family's car, right?

 

[PAXIMUS]

JVM talking about Charlie Sheen and a strip club so I guess her breaking news wasnt all that important.

 

[Deleted member 718]

It was already wrapped in a towel. It was taken from LE car (trunk). Nobody knows what was wrapped in that towel.

That makes me think it's not anything of evidentiary nature. My first thought was a religious memorial the mom wanted to put Isa's room. MOO

Any other ideas what it might be?