Deceased/Not Found AZ - Jhessye Shockley, 5, Glendale, 11 Oct 2011 - #4 *J. Hunter guilty*

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  • #201
Jhesseye's Mom speaks out:

"My children are my life. Anyone who knows me knows that. If there is an 'abduction handbook' tell me where it is and I will buy it because I need help right now. And my 4 other kids need me right now. "

[ paraphrsed and typed while I heard this on HLN today]

:eek:

:burn:
 
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again, Shirley ? OMG ! Doesn't the NAACP Washington Bureau have enough to do?

Bring home beautiful Jhessye
 
  • #204
Jhesseye's Mom speaks out:

"My children are my life. Anyone who knows me knows that. If there is an 'abduction handbook' tell me where it is and I will buy it because I need help right now. And my 4 other kids need me right now. "

[ paraphrsed and typed while I heard this on HLN today]

I saw that that today. The irony is rich :banghead:
 
  • #205
again, Shirley ? OMG ! Doesn't the NAACP Washington Bureau have enough to do?

Bring home beautiful Jhessye

There's more ...
https://www.facebook.com/NAACPWashingtonBureau/posts/252018041529967

Evidently Shirley accepts that Jhessye may be in a landfill, but does not believe it was Jerice who put her there. I'm still scratching my head over that one, seems as if she is hedging her bets. If our sweet girl is indeed found, I guess she will say it was a stranger abduction and disposal?

I'm worried about the degree of difficulty involved in that search. If they are not able to find her, what then? Will they have enough to prosecute? If the forensics come back, is that enough circumstantial evidence to convict?

ETA- Wasn't Shirley ordered to zip it regarding CPS and Jhessye's siblings?
 
  • #206

Rev. Oscar Tillman is the president of the Maricopa county branch of the NAACP. He is no stranger to reporters and news cameras and is well-known to many Arizonans. In November, he said he had a change of heart about jerice."She hadn't mentioned Jhessye at all," Tillman said. "So I said, 'Why are you asking me to help you get lawyers and things when you have not mentioned Jhessye's name." The article also says that "Tillman said family members told him it was not unusual to see burn marks, bruising or missing teeth on the little girl."

http://ktar.com/category/local-news...at-comes-with-likelihood-of-Shockley's-death/

Tillman's credentials: http://www.naacpmaricopacounty.org/contact.php

If Shirley was interested in getting the truth out, then why didn't she post on Facebook to the national NAACP, telling them that the leader of the local NAACP lost faith in jerice back in November?
 
  • #207
Rev. Oscar Tillman is the president of the Maricopa county branch of the NAACP. He is no stranger to reporters and news cameras and is well-known to many Arizonans. In November, he said he had a change of heart about jerice."She hadn't mentioned Jhessye at all," Tillman said. "So I said, 'Why are you asking me to help you get lawyers and things when you have not mentioned Jhessye's name." The article also says that "Tillman said family members told him it was not unusual to see burn marks, bruising or missing teeth on the little girl."

http://ktar.com/category/local-news...at-comes-with-likelihood-of-Shockley's-death/

Tillman's credentials: http://www.naacpmaricopacounty.org/contact.php

If Shirley was interested in getting the truth out, then why didn't she post on Facebook to the national NAACP, telling them that the leader of the local NAACP lost faith in jerice back in November?

I had forgotten about that Marigold, thank you for reminding us!!
 
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If the little girl was killed months ago and tossed into a trash bin, as police now believe, and then taken by a collection truck to a massive landfill south of the Valley, deposited and covered over with tons of trash, she will not be alone.

There is a boy there.

That is what authorities believe. He has been there since 1996. I hadn't thought about him for a very long time. His story came back to me when police in Glendale said they believe that the body of 5-year-old Jhessye Shockley may be at the Butterfield Station Landfill in Mobile.

And they are contemplating a search.


Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarep...28jhessye-shockley-montini.html#ixzz1hwJsh5FQ
 
  • #210
There's more ...
https://www.facebook.com/NAACPWashingtonBureau/posts/252018041529967

Evidently Shirley accepts that Jhessye may be in a landfill, but does not believe it was Jerice who put her there. I'm still scratching my head over that one, seems as if she is hedging her bets. If our sweet girl is indeed found, I guess she will say it was a stranger abduction and disposal?

I'm worried about the degree of difficulty involved in that search. If they are not able to find her, what then? Will they have enough to prosecute? If the forensics come back, is that enough circumstantial evidence to convict?

ETA- Wasn't Shirley ordered to zip it regarding CPS and Jhessye's siblings?



Shirley knows Jerice killed Jhessye, but she may not want to admit it...especially in public. It will make her look bad for enabling her daughter, and for her own role in Jerice's background of abuse.

As long as she can keep up the pretense, she will. But I have no doubt that she knows her daughter is guilty.
 
  • #211
Shirley knows Jerice killed Jhessye, but she may not want to admit it...especially in public. It will make her look bad for enabling her daughter, and for her own role in Jerice's background of abuse.

As long as she can keep up the pretense, she will. But I have no doubt that she knows her daughter is guilty.

I dunno EllaMae, I see Shirley riding this one out forever. Her Granddaughter murdered and poor Daughter wrongly convicted by the prejudiced and conspiratorial State of Arizona.

I doubt she will ever admit the truth, even when faced with proof.

I hope they start the search for our sweet Jhhessye soon, this waiting game is horrible. Really, how long do lab results take?
 
  • #212
I dunno EllaMae, I see Shirley riding this one out forever. Her Granddaughter murdered and poor Daughter wrongly convicted by the prejudiced and conspiratorial State of Arizona.

I doubt she will ever admit the truth, even when faced with proof.

I hope they start the search for our sweet Jhhessye soon, this waiting game is horrible. Really, how long do lab results take?

BBM. I totally agree and wonder the same thing. Does anyone remember any lab tests taking so long? Anyone want to speculate on what's being tested?
 
  • #213
Surfaces in the closet, carpeting or tile, that blue kitchen bowl, her shoes, any item that looks like it could be used for striking a child.

Marigold do you remember where that search warrant is? I wanted to read the list again now that we know GPD thinks jerice traveled to Tempe. I can't remember what it said, was it yellow pages or some sort of paper?
 
  • #214
Surfaces in the closet, carpeting or tile, that blue kitchen bowl, her shoes, any item that looks like it could be used for striking a child.

Marigold do you remember where that search warrant is? I wanted to read the list again now that we know GPD thinks jerice traveled to Tempe. I can't remember what it said, was it yellow pages or some sort of paper?

Is this what you are looking for?
http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/kpho/KPHO NEWS/Hunter Search Warrant.pdf

I would love to know which book of the Yellow pages they wanted. The last time I looked at a phone book awhile ago, they had a large metro Phoenix yellow pages, and also one each for the west side (Glendale, Peoria, Sun City, etc) and one for the east side (Tempe, Mesa, Chandler, Gilbert, etc.)
 
  • #215
Yellow shredded papers. Everything else listed makes sense but the paper.

Did she have a paper shredder? I was thinking maybe the kids had a bird or a hamster, maybe they used shredded paper in a cage. But in the 911 call she said "we have no pets".

Why shred the yellow pages? Not exactly incriminating unless she wrote on them. Maybe she put them on the closet floor to absorb something, but that doesn't make sense either. Why not use paper towels?

I'm sorry guys, I know my train of thought is upsetting, but I want to know what happened to Jhessye. Everything in that warrant is meaningful.
 
  • #216
My bet is that jhessye may have scribbled or drawn on pages torn from an old phone book or something of that natue.
 
  • #217
Yellow shredded papers. Everything else listed makes sense but the paper.

Did she have a paper shredder? I was thinking maybe the kids had a bird or a hamster, maybe they used shredded paper in a cage. But in the 911 call she said "we have no pets".

Why shred the yellow pages? Not exactly incriminating unless she wrote on them. Maybe she put them on the closet floor to absorb something, but that doesn't make sense either. Why not use paper towels?

I'm sorry guys, I know my train of thought is upsetting, but I want to know what happened to Jhessye. Everything in that warrant is meaningful.

If she needed absorbent or shredded paper, then why didn't she pick up some of the free newspapers in the valley? She could have grabbed as many as she wanted and could have chosen between the Phoenix New Times, or the Spanish language Prensa Hispana. Both are usually available in open boxes in front of convenience stores, Walgreens and also a few local grocery stores.

I'm puzzling over those yellow pages. I can't figure out what in the world she would use them for?
 
  • #218
I dunno EllaMae, I see Shirley riding this one out forever. Her Granddaughter murdered and poor Daughter wrongly convicted by the prejudiced and conspiratorial State of Arizona.

I doubt she will ever admit the truth, even when faced with proof.

I hope they start the search for our sweet Jhhessye soon, this waiting game is horrible. Really, how long do lab results take?


We're saying the same thing....
That's what I meant by keeping up the pretense as long as she can. She has a lot riding on the version that she and Jerice are trying to sell to the rest of the world.

Just because she knows that Jerice is guilty doesn't mean she'll ever admit it publicly.
 
  • #219
If the little girl was killed months ago and tossed into a trash bin, as police now believe, and then taken by a collection truck to a massive landfill south of the Valley, deposited and covered over with tons of trash, she will not be alone.

There is a boy there.

That is what authorities believe. He has been there since 1996. I hadn't thought about him for a very long time. His story came back to me when police in Glendale said they believe that the body of 5-year-old Jhessye Shockley may be at the Butterfield Station Landfill in Mobile.

And they are contemplating a search.


Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarep...28jhessye-shockley-montini.html#ixzz1hwJsh5FQ

Don't forget poor Cookie from 1998. :(

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/09/26/20080926tr-cookieanniv0927.html
 
  • #220
Guys, those of you who have been following jhessyes fb page should take a gander. Someone is posting on the 13 yr olds fb and the posts are troubling. If this is really thiis child she is communicating with shirley via fb. The posts are odd and maybe even suicidal.

I pray with all my heart someone has hacked this childs account and it is not really her :(
 
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