AZ - Lori Vallow Daybell charged w/ conspiring to kill ex-husband Charles Vallow and another relative, Brandon Boudreaux, Chandler, Maricopa County #2

[Izzylizzy]

Lori asking a question about the difference between a semiautomatic handgun and a revolver.

Is she trying to appear ignorant about firearms?

I remember seeing a photo of Tylee at a gun range or shooting event with her aunt, Summer. I sincerely doubt that Lori is ignorant about guns.

I see her strategy as trying to buy time/fill up space with mostly inconsequential questions.

imo

 

[Izzylizzy]

Lori asking a question about the difference between a semiautomatic handgun and a revolver.

Is she trying to appear ignorant about firearms?

I remember seeing a photo of Tylee at a gun range or shooting event with her aunt, Summer. I sincerely doubt that Lori is ignorant about guns.

BBM:
Especially since she was prepped for Armageddon and all.

 

[alexwood]

I can't remember when I have ever despised a defendant more than I do V.D. (Vallow Daybell) -- you know who I mean -- and, the double entendre was intentional!

 

[Jolynna]

"You have the habit of when a witness answers a question to add something to the end of their answer - like I wasn't aware of that or I don't know much about guns. On previous witnesses, you say that's what I recall. When you say that, it's a form of testifying. I'm going to caution against that," Judge says.

Source:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1909751239480688760

 

[Izzylizzy]

"You have the habit of when a witness answers a question to add something to the end of their answer - like I wasn't aware of that or I don't know much about guns. On previous witnesses, you say that's what I recall. When you say that, it's a form of testifying. I'm going to caution against that," Judge says.

Source:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1909751239480688760

 

[Diddian]

"You have the habit of when a witness answers a question to add something to the end of their answer - like I wasn't aware of that or I don't know much about guns. On previous witnesses, you say that's what I recall. When you say that, it's a form of testifying. I'm going to caution against that," Judge says.

Source:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1909751239480688760

It's about time. She has opined on most answers, even if only to say "correct" or "that's right" (as though "incorrect" or "that's not right" would also be optional and admissable defendant-acting-as-her-own attorney judgments of the witness's testimony).

 

[Izzylizzy]

I'm still having a problem with how LE acted during the investigation of Charles' death. Totally unprofessional.

 

[Campizi67]

What’s concerning to me is that, as her own defense lawyer, LVD is, in a sense, receiving a level of respect and attention that, in my opinion, she doesn’t truly deserve. While every defendant is entitled to legal representation, her actions and the severity of the charges against her shouldn’t automatically result in undue respect or sympathy from the jurors. It’s troubling to witness this dynamic, especially when considering the victims involved.

 

[Izzylizzy]

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[Izzylizzy]

What’s concerning to me is that, as her own defense lawyer, LVD is, in a sense, receiving a level of respect and attention that, in my opinion, she doesn’t truly deserve. While every defendant is entitled to legal representation, her actions and the severity of the charges against her shouldn’t automatically result in undue respect or sympathy from the jurors. It’s troubling to witness this dynamic, especially when considering the victims involved.

Yep, an offensive farce to the justice system.
She's got legal minds working with her writing the questions for witnesses, nudging her when to object etc.
I'm curious if studies were ever done on jurors where the defendant also represented themselves?

I'm going to look tomorrow.
IMO:

 

[Deleted member 19575]

I think I remember reading in one of the hundreds of pages for this case that if LVD is for some reason unable to keep representing herself, counsel could step in and take over… If that’s true, how much longer do we think she’ll keep this up or do we think she’ll hand over the reigns after one too many objections/admonishments?

I guess they decided she was competent enough or they wouldn't allow it. It was a long time before she was allowed to appear at her first trial because she had to have her head dry-cleaned for a year!

 

[Gigiky]

When she even speaks Tylee's name I get sick to my stomach.

 

[Niner]

Wednesday, April 9th:
*Trial continues (Day 3) (Charles) (@ 10:30am MST) - AZ – Charles Vallow (62) shot & killed on July 11, 2019 in Chandler, AZ. *Lori Norene Daybell aka Lori Norene Vallow (46 @ time of crime/48/now 51) indicted (6/24/21), charged & arraigned (12/8/23) with 1 count of conspiracy to commit 1st degree murder. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. Maricopa County
AZ – Brandon Boudreaux (34/now 40) attempted murder on Oct. 2, 2019 in Gilbert, AZ. *Lori Norene Vallow (46 @ time of crime/49/now 51) indicted (2/24/22), charged & arraigned (12/7/23) with 1 count of 1st degree murder premeditated. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. Maricopa County
Jury selection [for Charles] began on 3/31/25 & went thru 4/1/25.
Jury consisted of 12 jurors & 4 alternates. [13 men & 3 women]. As of 4/9/25: 12 jurors & 2 alternates. [12 men & 2 women].
Trial [for Brandon Boudreaux]: Judge sets 6/2/25 for start of Boudreux trial. Trial will be Monday thru Friday, the following week [6/9/25] will be Monday thru Thursday & the Judge may be gone for training the following week [6/16/25].
Trial began on 4/7/25. [thru 5/15/25] [State wants 4/24/25 as half day]. @10:30am to 4:30pm. NO Court on Fridays or 4/28 or 4/29/25.
Judge Justin Beresky presiding. State’s attorney Ryan Green. DA Treena Jeanelle Kay. Vallow-Daybell Pro Se with advisory Defense attorneys Gerald Bradley & Denae Suchy.
Case info from 2/24/22 thru 3/27/25 & Jury selection Days 1-2 (3/31 & 4/1/25) & 4/4/25 & Trial Day 1 (4/7/25) reference post #410 here:
https://websleuths.com/threads/az-l...aux-chandler-maricopa-county-2.739249/page-21
4/8/25 Tuesday, Trial Day 2: *Juror #4 was excused by Judge.
State witnesses: Scott Cowden continues on stand for cross. He’s a Chandler firefighter & responded to the shooting. Kent Keller from the Chandler Fire Dept. Daniel Coons detective with the Chandler Police Dept.
*Vallow-Daybell filed yesterday needs to be discussed at one point. Apparently it was a motion about a discovery violation. This motion deals with Lonnie Dworkin. Judge says there does not appear to be a discovery violation. Beresky says it’s more like a discovey request, not a violation. Lori says she would agree with him. “The problem that we have here is the software and those things were available and they were not handed over from the state.” Unclear all the specifics of what she is talking about. Lori says the complete downloads were never given – just reports. Judge says he will think about it & maybe have a hearing on Friday.
Trial continues on Wednesday, 4/9/25.
ID – Vallow found guilty of all charges & sentenced to 3 consecutive life sentences without parole on 7/31/23.

 

[Kemug]

I keep thinking about JJ and Tylee, and the way she just so casually mentioned them in that Opening, like nothing ever happened to those kids at her own command. And then that superficial tear in her voice like she was oooh so concerned about Tylee being at risk of getting hurt by her evil stepfather Charles , like all she could think of was protecting her precious babies.

RSBM
Whereas Charles would probably have given his life to protect those two children.

 

[Kemug]

I think I remember reading in one of the hundreds of pages for this case that if LVD is for some reason unable to keep representing herself, counsel could step in and take over… If that’s true, how much longer do we think she’ll keep this up or do we think she’ll hand over the reigns after one too many objections/admonishments?

Of course, she may become totally unable to continue due to her heartbroken sobbing about her dead children.

 

[Diddian]

Of course, she may become totally unable to continue due to her heartbroken sobbing about her dead children.

That would be the time to bring on the witness at her apartment complex in Idaho to whom she referred to JJ as her “niece’s drug baby” and the friend from Hawaii (April) whom she told she was “so done with JJ” and the multiple women acquaintances/friends in Arizona to whom she referred to Tylee as “dark” and “a zombie.”

But she could not give away to others who would gladly have taken them those children who were in the way of her having the life she’d decided she wanted because to give up the kids would also mean giving up the funds that provided for their care (survivor social security for both as well as social security disability for JJ’s care as well as the funds left to Tylee by Joe Ryan).

Motherhood was a well-paying commodity to LVD so she opted for the pretense of it at the cost of those kid’s lives to keep the money rolling in. And to keep the pesky questions their absence generated at bay, she pretended a dystopian religious worldview that provided a fog to hide in while lying that the kids were in the care of trusted friends. No one (or very few) outside the conspiracy of Lori, Chad, and the incredibly duped Alex would have accepted the murder and inhumane treatment of the remains of the kids as a moral or religious necessity - so Chad and Lori hid in Hawaii and lied about where the kids had gone.

Those lies about the location and well-being of the kids - to followers, disciples, family, and LE - were the admission that the dystopian religious worldview was a lie too.

Tears or not, no sympathy or mercy for Lori and her evil choices and her continued lying about them. The veil has lifted and there is nowhere to hide.

 

[adot0902]

I've been on juries and I can't see how on earth he was pulling out his phone with a baliffe there. No way.

When I was on a jury, the bailiff fell asleep MULTIPLE times, to the point we (the jury) started counting and joking about it. It was truly eye opening, things don't always work how you think they should.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Oh, my.
LVD has a legal fan, praising her delivery.

'PHOENIX (AZFamily) — An attorney who’s not connected to the case says Lori Vallow Daybell is faring better than some lawyers do in court as she represents herself for the 2019 murder of her former husband."

Kolsrud said Daybell is likely to do well, resonating with the jurors.

“The jurors are going to see an attractive woman who’s very smart, she’s meticulous, and she may be sympathetic,” he said. “The fact that she’s representing herself is a wild card in this case that, you know, we’ll see how effective it is once the jury makes their verdict.”

That jury not knowing anything about Daybell’s history and prior convictions is important for an impartial decision.

“If they find out that Lori Vallow (Daybell) was already convicted of murder in Idaho under similarly situated circumstances, it’s really going to prejudice the jury against her,” Kolsrud said."

Attorney: Lori Vallow Daybell faring better than some lawyers while representing herself in court

He said Daybell’s preparation is something that’s not usually seen when defendants represent themselves for murder.

www.azfamily.com

 

[Izzylizzy]

Yep, an offensive farce to the justice system.
She's got legal minds working with her writing the questions for witnesses, nudging her when to object etc.
I'm curious if studies were ever done on jurors where the defendant also represented themselves?

I'm going to look tomorrow.
IMO:

There's a few older studies done on "Pro-se" and the pros and cons using data but I found nothing on what jurors had to say about the defendant in a criminal trial representing themselves.

 

[Izzylizzy]

LVD being "chewed out" by the judge and prosecution, over and over again.
LVD switches to little girl giggles with witnesses, "cringey".