AZ - Lori Vallow Daybell charged w/ conspiring to kill ex-husband Charles Vallow and another relative, Brandon Boudreaux, Chandler, Maricopa County #2

[Cindizzi]

As I understand it - NO court on Fridays, right? So after today it will be back on Monday the 14th.

Me too on the "zap" part!

I’m assuming no court on Friday based on reporter JL saying the week is wrapping up today.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1910335843073773865

 

[Jolynna]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1910400808988139671

https://twitter.com/x/status/1910401023639974310

LVD blames Tylee for the fighting in her household in 2019. She blames the Law Enforcement and EMTs who tried to save Charles. Now, LVD is putting blame on her brother, Adam.

She has a gift for manipulating facts to make herself the victim.

 

[nodamselindistress]

That is exactly what Charles said before he died, she always finds a way to blame everyone else she is never guilty of anything!

 

[CHEL]

Green Chile chicken enchiladas

 

[Cindizzi]

Green Chile chicken enchiladas

Lol

https://twitter.com/x/status/1910401306998743234

 

[Diddian]

Lol

https://twitter.com/x/status/1910401306998743234

Maybe she’d sprinkled a little something extra on them (like CV’s protein shakes).

Celestial seasonings, one might call them.

 

[SluethinAway]

Lol

https://twitter.com/x/status/1910401306998743234

Thinking she's so dang smart.

She oozes narcissism.
I had a feeling it would go this way.

 

[indicolite22]

Green Chile chicken enchiladas

She's insinuating that she has redeeming qualities.

 

[iamshadow21]

She's insinuating that she has redeeming qualities.

Or that her Tex Mex does. She can fold Satan into a taco, don't you know?

 

[Diddian]

It is so odd to me that these women who have been included in the gathering, but who are alert to practices that violate church doctrine and/or differ materially from typical group prayer or the like, still participated in these "castings" despite their discomfort with them.

I cannot imagine doing that. This kind of stuff would have had me headed for the door with ANY excuse to get the heck out of there.

 

[TLobo]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1910400808988139671

https://twitter.com/x/status/1910401023639974310

LVD blames Tylee for the fighting in her household in 2019. She blames the Law Enforcement and EMTs who tried to save Charles. Now, LVD is putting blame on her brother, Adam.

She has a gift for manipulating facts to make herself the victim.

This is a very serious trial, but...

this is also a really, really funny sequence of questions and answers to me. Like, you see your sibling for the first time in years in court, where one of you is cross-examining the other for one of many heinous crimes that she has committed, and you talk about...whether or not you were at her son's wedding, and if you remember seeing her that one time when she made enchiladas. If you enjoyed her green chile chicken enchiladas. Just more craziness to LVD's circus.

 

[iamshadow21]

It is so odd to me that these women who have been included in the gathering, but who are alert to practices that violate church doctrine and/or differ materially from typical group prayer or the like, still participated in these "castings" despite their discomfort with them.

I cannot imagine doing that. This kind of stuff would have had me headed for the door with ANY excuse to get the heck out of there.

As I've discussed before, the church is a very unusual thing to anyone who isn't raised in it. On the one hand, it looks very conservative, conformative, vanilla. And it is. At the same time, it is a religion with its roots in tent revivalism, folk magic, divination and treasure hunting. The church has always had a foot in both worlds. The official doctrine is one thing, but every congregation I had contact with growing up had an undercurrent of herbal medicine, energy healing, personal revelation and visions, dream interpretation, and commonly held 'extra' beliefs that you won't find anywhere in official church doctrine but persist, regardless. Lori's cult might seem wild, and it is, it's resulted in at least four murders, but this 'coven' of hers is something I can look at, knowing the doctrine and culture of the LDS church and understand exactly where it came from. It's harder to explain to outsiders, but as someone born in church, the steps are pretty clear to me.

MOO

 

[Nikynoo]

We don't really know if she grabbed the phone while in the house, do we? It's just as plausible that Charles simply left the phone in the car. Maybe they'll have some phone data that shows when it was being used and whether she accessed it during the drive.

The argument in the house was because Lori would not give Charles his phone back.

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1910404698160718062

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1910400855360352396

 

[TigerLou]

It is so odd to me that these women who have been included in the gathering, but who are alert to practices that violate church doctrine and/or differ materially from typical group prayer or the like, still participated in these "castings" despite their discomfort with them.

I cannot imagine doing that. This kind of stuff would have had me headed for the door with ANY excuse to get the heck out of there.

YES!!!!

I'd have had my Bishop on the phone in the car before I pulled out of the driveway! This stuff is insane!

 

[Diddian]

As I've discussed before, the church is a very unusual thing to anyone who isn't raised in it. On the one hand, it looks very conservative, conformative, vanilla. And it is. At the same time, it is a religion with its roots in tent revivalism, folk magic, divination and treasure hunting. The church has always had a foot in both worlds. The official doctrine is one thing, but every congregation I had contact with growing up had an undercurrent of herbal medicine, energy healing, personal revelation and visions, dream interpretation, and commonly held 'extra' beliefs that you won't find anywhere in official church doctrine but persist, regardless. Lori's cult might seem wild, and it is, it's resulted in at least four murders, but this 'coven' of hers is something I can look at, knowing the doctrine and culture of the LDS church and understand exactly where it came from. It's harder to explain to outsiders, but as someone born in church, the steps are pretty clear to me.

MOO

Thank you for sharing your perspective which is much appreciated.

 

[TigerLou]

As I've discussed before, the church is a very unusual thing to anyone who isn't raised in it. On the one hand, it looks very conservative, conformative, vanilla. And it is. At the same time, it is a religion with its roots in tent revivalism, folk magic, divination and treasure hunting. The church has always had a foot in both worlds. The official doctrine is one thing, but every congregation I had contact with growing up had an undercurrent of herbal medicine, energy healing, personal revelation and visions, dream interpretation, and commonly held 'extra' beliefs that you won't find anywhere in official church doctrine but persist, regardless. Lori's cult might seem wild, and it is, it's resulted in at least four murders, but this 'coven' of hers is something I can look at, knowing the doctrine and culture of the LDS church and understand exactly where it came from. It's harder to explain to outsiders, but as someone born in church, the steps are pretty clear to me.

MOO

Yeah...um raised and still active and clueless to what you're saying is there. Not one bit in my experience. Sorry.

 

[Bipolar Express]

Lol

https://twitter.com/x/status/1910401306998743234

This was my favorite part so far today

 

[iamshadow21]

Yeah...um raised and still active and clueless to what you're saying is there. Not one bit in my experience. Sorry.

And both our experiences are valid.

My point is that as much as the church presents itself as a monolith of belief, it isn't, even in the mainstream. And when you get offshoots like Lori and her ilk, it can metamorphosise into something different very quickly.

MOO