AZ - Lori Vallow Daybell charged w/ conspiring to kill ex-husband Charles Vallow and another relative, Brandon Boudreaux, Chandler, Maricopa County #2

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Right after the prosecutor tells KW /court she has no further questions and the judge says "okay cross" KW while staring ( at LVD?) picks up the bottle of water and before taking a sip waiting for LVD says under her breath "oh, boy"

It was louder on my TV then LT but it's there.
LVD certainly didn't want to tangle with CV's beloved sister.
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@5:57
I heard it too and chuckled. I thought KW did a great job. Every single time I hear her or LW speak I get choked up. I never knew that they found out about CV via a Google search. My gosh, how awful is that?! 😭
 
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It was so telling with SS that LVD wouldn't dare touch the "casting prayer" to get that evil guy Ned(?) out of her husband CV's body.
That was the biggie not the zombies.

Did LVD actually expect the jury to believe she was /is a main line LDS Christian because she can babble off a few scriptures about Biblical prophets?
SS held up beautifully.

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Kay's testimony alone would seal Lori's fate for me.
 
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I thought it was very interesting that Alex Cox was excommunicated 2x by the church and was ex'ed at the time he killed CV.
Maybe LVD had AC convinced he was some divine being and he carried out her wishes to get rid of CV?

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I thought it was very interesting that Alex Cox was excommunicated 2x by the church and was ex'ed at the time he killed CV.
Maybe LVD had AC convinced he was some divine being and he carried out her wishes to get rid of CV?

imo
That is exactly what was going on. The blessing Chad gave him is very telling, all about Alex's divine mission.


MOO
 
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We have not yet seen texts from the downloads of electronics. I expect, based on the prosecutor’s opening statement, that they are coming and they will include the texts exchanged between Chad and Lori in which Lori refers to “getting rid of Ned” or “now that we’ve gotten rid of Ned” and also the text in which she refers to the changed beneficiary form and that she will still be getting the $4,000 in monthly SS benefits (indicating that she and Chad had discussed the financial things before).

Those will be damning.

I do not understand how the Chandler PD had not developed a case before the explosion of news in Idaho about the two missing kids. I remember from the Idaho trial that police body cams showed officers expressing doubts about the reliability of AC’s claims about what happened based on CV’s body and other items of evidence in the room where his body was. And certainly LVD’s behavior - leaving the scene for an hour or so and returning and her demeanor overall - would generate reasonable concerns. The forensics relating to the shots see to indicate that work was thorough and also would generate concerns.

(ETA: I could see one counter to some of those concerns being that this was a separated and potentially divorcing couple. LE is likely accustomed to seeing some hostile behavior in such situations, so they might explain away LVD’s demeanor to those circumstances. But trajectory of shots, evidence that doesn’t match the stories, the departure - with CV’s phone and vehicle - from the scene. One would think those would all weigh heavily in favor of thorough investigation.)

So what was happening between July and December 2019? Was the ball dropped, or was the investigating quietly unfolding, and if so, why wasn’t anyone in LE watching LVD and AC? Had LE dropped the ball or had the Maricopa prosecutors done so? And if so, why?
I wonder all the same things you do from the original investigation in Charles’s death.
I heard on YouTube that the trial is going to last three of four weeks and no court on Fridays. I just don’t see how the State can get testimony of those texts in time. The jurors must have gone home today wondering why the poor little blonde was charged. ugh.
 
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The prosecution made a big deal in the opening statement about how LVD wanted to be with CD and wanted the money to continue the lifestyle CV had provided her, so I'll bet there's a lot more coming about the affair, since up until this point, they've barely mentioned CD at all.

I think the prosecution has done a great job thus far setting up WHAT has happened; I expect them now to be moving into more evidence pointing to WHY it happened.
I hope you are correct about the State bringing this together.
 
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That is exactly what was going on. The blessing Chad gave him is very telling, all about Alex's divine mission.


MOO
Thanks for that info.about CD & AC,
I'm new to the trials and that sure makes sense, megalomania sense that is.
 
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I’m hoping the State can bring in the texts of the affair and the previous deaths. We all know Lori and Chad ordered Alex to kill Charles because we have followed from day one.
But right now, I don’t see how the prosecution has brought Lori into the conspiracy to kill Charles. To begin with, Chandler PD blew this case and now it appears to me that the prosecution isn’t even prepared.
Does anyone else doubt they will get a conviction?
And Melani Pawlowski and Melanie Gibb and ZulemaPastenes, why aren’t they testifying? Makes no sense!
I'm holding out hope that we'll ok here. Think back to Treena Kay's opening statement....

11:17 a.m. Treena Kay moves to podium in front of jury. “I’m going to need you to stay close to me the next few days,” Treena begins quoting from text messages. Messages between Lori and Alex. “Thanks for standing by me.” “It’s all coming to a head this week. I will like Nephi, I am told, and so will you.” Treena: “Lori Daybell, seated over here, wrote this to her brother two days before they killed Charles Vallow.”

They have texts and maybe...hopefully...more than we know about.
I think the witnesses talk about demons, castings and putting JJs meds in CVs shakes are going to help prove the point.
Remember we're only 4 days into this trial. I think it's hard for us that have been following for the last 5 years because we want to throw it all the jury in one day. We have to keep being patient and have faith that they'll bring it around.
Just my thoughts and opinion.

 
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I wonder where she actually was for that time period and who was supporting her? That was so sad to hear about that 💩 🤬 not wanting JJ or Tylee, I also wonder which brother she left Tylee with? My heart still breaks for the kids, but learning all of this only makes me hate that demon more.

Glad she feels that she is above repentance... God doesn't like ugly!!
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Thanks for that info.about CD & AC,
I'm new to the trials and that sure makes sense, megalomania sense that is.
One of the last reported things we know Alex said was "I think I'm their fall guy."

They manipulated and shaped him into their assassin. He's 100% responsible for his own actions, don't get me wrong, but all the people he killed or tried to kill benefitted Chad and Lori's plan to get rid of their spouses and Lori's kids and get rich, and, in the case of the attempt on Brandon Boudreaux, get rid of an annoyance. His previous run in with the law was an assault on Lori's ex, Tylee's father. I think his whole life, he was Lori's attack dog, her enforcer.

MOO
 
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