AZ - Lori Vallow Daybell charged w/ conspiring to kill ex-husband Charles Vallow and another relative, Brandon Boudreaux, Chandler, Maricopa County #5

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Meaning that Beresky passed the info/Karl's video interview on to Trenna for her not him to decide if it was juror misconduct or not?

No, that's not what happened.

This issue has not been decided yet.

So far, LVD has filed a written motion for a new trial, and multiple reasons why she thinks it's justified. The state has been given a chance to respond with their view of her motion and her points, which they have done.

That's as far as they've gotten.

From here, the judge (not the prosecution) will make the decision. He has various paths to choose from. He could do it by merely reading and weighing the motions and what they say, and then making a decision based on that, and in most requests for a new trial, thats all that happens. But at the discretion of the judge, any motion CAN be set to be argued in front of the judge, and there can be even be witnesses as needed, before the judge then weighs it and rules (and it may be some days before a ruling).

In this one? It remains to be seen what path he will choose, but with at least one crucial fact up in the air, it sure feels he should set a hearing and even call for an investigation. That's what I think he should do fwiw, but we will see what happens.
 
No, that's not what happened.

This issue has not been decided yet.

So far, LVD has filed a written motion for a new trial, and multiple reasons why she thinks it's justified. The state has been given a chance to respond with their view of her motion and her points, which they have done.

That's as far as they've gotten.

From here, the judge (not the prosecution) will make the decision. He has various paths to choose from. He could do it by merely reading and weighing the motions and what they say, and then making a decision based on that, and in most requests for a new trial, thats all that happens. But at the discretion of the judge, any motion CAN be set to be argued in front of the judge, and there can be even be witnesses as needed, before the judge then weighs it and rules (and it may be some days before a ruling).

In this one? It remains to be seen what path he will choose, but with at least one crucial fact up in the air, it sure feels he should set a hearing and even call for an investigation. That's what I think he should do fwiw, but we will see what happens.
Thanks so much for explaining and I should have realized it was the state's answer to LVD's motion.
Considering Beresky's past faith in Karl it wouldn't surprise me if he believes whatever Karl tells him.
 
So none of the inner circle again. If they got immunity agreements, the state has not gotten much out of them. I mean the two Melanies and Zulema. They each only testified once I believe.

I guess they probably have enough evidence without them, but it feels like the Vallow Daybell Girls are getting away with something.

Maybe they don't want to take the chance they contradict something they said in prior testimony.
 
So none of the inner circle again. If they got immunity agreements, the state has not gotten much out of them. I mean the two Melanies and Zulema. They each only testified once I believe.

I guess they probably have enough evidence without them, but it feels like the Vallow Daybell Girls are getting away with something.

Maybe they don't want to take the chance they contradict something they said in prior testimony.
I forgot about Zulema.
Maybe if LD is found guilty the state will move on M&M and Z with charges?
Melani would have had to be in cahoots with LD, CD,AC and ZP & MG knew the plan and aftermath.
imo
 
I forgot about Zulema.
Maybe if LD is found guilty the state will move on M&M and Z with charges?
Melani would have had to be in cahoots with LD, CD,AC and ZP & MG knew the plan and aftermath.
imo
If Chad the instigator wasn't charged in the Arizona crimes, others have even less chance (IMO). Without his zombie fantasy everyone would still be alive. Alex would probably not kill without an excuse.
 
If Chad the instigator wasn't charged in the Arizona crimes, others have even less chance (IMO). Without his zombie fantasy everyone would still be alive. Alex would probably not kill without an excuse.
I don't think they had enough evidence against CD to begin with and the charges/evidence for the 1st degree murders was their focus.

Putting MG & ZP aside I can't comprehend how Melani isn't crucial to this case.
Something is going on with her and I don't want to believe she gets another pass.
Even if she turned state's evidence against LD and made a deal I don't see it as worth it considering the convictions LD has already racked up.
If the state did make a plea deal with her I assume that BB would have had to sign off on it?

imo
 
Since LVD is going to represent herself again and no decision has yet been reported on her outstanding motion to set aside the verdict and order a new trial in the matter relating to Conspiracy to Murder CV, I expect that at the pretrial conference relating to the charges for Conspiracy-Attempted Murder of BB, she may bring up the issue.

Will Judge Berensky just remind her that relates to another case, not under consideration during this pretrial conference?
 
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*Case Management Conference Hearing (Boudreaux) (@ 10am AZT) – AZ – Brandon Boudreaux (34/now 40) attempted murder on Oct. 2, 2019 in Gilbert, AZ. *Lori Norene Vallow (46 @ time of crime/49/now 51) indicted (2/24/22), charged & arraigned (12/7/23) with 1 count of 1st degree premeditated attempted murder. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. Maricopa County
AZ – Charles Vallow (62) shot & killed on July 11, 2019 in Chandler, AZ. *Lori Norene Daybell aka Lori Norene Vallow (46 @ time of crime/48/now 51) indicted (6/24/21), charged & arraigned (12/8/23) with 1 count of conspiracy to commit 1st degree murder. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. Maricopa County
Trial of Charles began on 4/7/25 & ended 4/22/25 with GUILTY of all charges. Will be sentenced after Boudreaux trial.

Jury selection to begin on 5/30/25.
Trial set to begin on 6/2/25.
Judge Justin Beresky presiding. State’s attorney Ryan Green. DA Treena Jeanelle Kay. Vallow-Daybell Pro Se with advisory Defense attorneys Gerald Bradley & Denae Suchy.

Case info from 2/24/22 thru 3/27/25 & Jury selection Days 1-2 (3/31 & 4/1/25) & 4/4/25 & Trial Day 1-10/Verdict Watch Day 1-2 (4/7-4/22/25) reference post #603 here:
https://websleuths.com/threads/az-l...aux-chandler-maricopa-county-4.741528/page-41

Brandon’s case: 4/7/25 Docket update: Motion to dismiss for failure to disclose exculpatory evidence & prosecutorial misconduct by defendant. 4/10/25 Docket update: Order entered by Court. 4/11/25 Docket update: State's Notice of Intent to use defendant's other acts to establish conspiracy, premeditation and/or to establish motive pursuant to Rule 404(b), Arizona Rules of Evidence. [see post 637, page 32, thread #4]. Next final trial management hearing on 5/14/25 @ 10am, Jury questionnaire hearing on 5/29/25 @ 1pm, Jury selection on 5/30/25 @ 10am Trial is set to begin on 6/2/25 @ 10:30am. 4/18/25 Docket update: Trial setting.
Charles’ case: 4/25/25 Docket update: Notice of sealed jury questionnaires. 4/24/25: Status conference hearing on 5/30/25 @ 10am.
4/27/25 Docket update: Brandon: State's amended request for Rule 609 hearing. Prosecutor Kay says if Daybell testifies in next murder conspiracy trial the State will bring up all of LVD's convictions including the triple murder in Idaho & the latest conviction regarding Charles in cross examination. [see posts 822 to 824, page 42, thread #4 for more info].
5/1/25 Update: Charles’s case: Daybell has filed a motion for a new trial [Juror misconduct; Court precluded Tylee Ryan & Alex Cox's statements; Discovery violation re "graykey" hard drive date from Charlie's cell phone & Court's lack of impartiality by striking her witnesses]. See posts #925 & #929 thru #932, page 47, thread #4 for more info.
5/4/25 Docket update: Brandon: State's request to preclude the media from showing the face of testifying witness [undercover FBI Special Agent Nicholas Balance] (CAST Agent). See post #1,002, page 51, thread #4.
5/7/25 Docket update: Charles: State's response to defendant's Motion for new trial. See post 1000, page 50 & post 1004 thru 1007, page 51, Thread #4. 5/8/25 Update: Prosecutors cite interview with Juror 15 done by HiddenTrueCrime that clarifies he didn't know anything about Daybell's previous murder convictions until right after begin released from trial post-verdict. See post #1010 for more info.
5/12/25 Docket update: Charles: Motion to Dismiss for Abuse of Discretion by Judge Justin Beresky is denied. See post #24, page 2, thread 5 for more info.
5/11/25 Update: Brandon: 5/11/25 Docket update: State's final tial management conference pretrial statement filed by Kay. See post #26, page 2, thread 5.
ID – Vallow found guilty of all charges & sentenced to 3 consecutive life sentences without parole on 7/31/23.
 
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