AZ - Lori Vallow Daybell charged w/ conspiring to kill ex-husband Charles Vallow and another relative, Brandon Boudreaux, Chandler, Maricopa County #5

[Megnut]

Motive? Money. But also, IMO LD discovered that controlling people is intoxicating. She's drunk on it.

JMO

 

[Teche]

I could watch this all night, thought it worthy of reposting. Two minute clip.

What did Lori do or say when she turned around while be escorted out of the court room?

 

[aafromaa]

What a day! I spent it with the beautiful humans over in Megan’s chat. It was a hard day for her seeing LVD treat BB like she did but Megan is a trooper and hung in there the whole day and even did her evening wrap up when it was over.

I’m sorry I don’t have time now to read all the WS comments posted today but boy oh boy what a day. Some of the most memorable parts to me….

1) LVD’s motion for new judge over lunch yesterday was dismissed by presiding judge before court started this morning.
2) LVD got on the wrong side of the judge 1st thing this morning when her acting counsel was not present when court was supposed to start because she was making copies in her office!
3) LVD was thrown out of court for arguing with the Judge - jury was not present.
4) LVD was warned if she continued to ask questions along the same lines after judge ruled on an objection that he would revoke her pro se status.
5) LVD has been warned that state can bring in her 4 murder convictions if she continues to try to convince the jury that she is a good person full of love for everyone and other stuff.
6) TK confirmed that MBP is still under investigation for her role in the attempted murder of BB.

 

[LinasK]

Motive? Money. But also, IMO LD discovered that controlling people is intoxicating. She's drunk on it.

JMO

And that the kids and former spouses were inconvenient to her and Chad's relationship. Dancing on the beach in Hawaii you know...

 

[Love Never Fails]

Motive? Money. But also, IMO LD discovered that controlling people is intoxicating. She's drunk on it.

JMO

What did the prosecutors say at the trial in Idaho? Money, Sex and Power. Well after watching Lori today, I think it was sex for Chad and power for Lori. They just needed the money to live that way. You can tell she craves control and she is mean when she doesn’t have it.

Well. Chad cannot have sex with her anymore, not that he would want to.

And they have no money now.

As for power, I am still concerned about Lori having her own little mafia in prison.

 

[Love Never Fails]

What a day! I spent it with the beautiful humans over in Megan’s chat. It was a hard day for her seeing LVD treat BB like she did but Megan is a trooper and hung in there the whole day and even did her evening wrap up when it was over.

I’m sorry I don’t have time now to read all the WS comments posted today but boy oh boy what a day. Some of the most memorable parts to me….

1) LVD’s motion for new judge over lunch yesterday was dismissed by presiding judge before court started this morning.
2) LVD got on the wrong side of the judge 1st thing this morning when her acting counsel was not present when court was supposed to start because she was making copies in her office!
3) LVD was thrown out of court for arguing with the Judge - jury was not present.
4) LVD was warned if she continued to ask questions along the same lines after judge ruled on an objection that he would revoke her pro se status.
5) LVD has been warned that state can bring in her 4 murder convictions if she continues to try to convince the jury that she is a good person full of love for everyone and other stuff.
6) TK confirmed that MBP is still under investigation for her role in the attempted murder of BB.

Good day all around. Except for Brandon. He makes my heart hurt. Praying he heals after this is over. Law should have forced Melani to go with Brandon when he identified JJ. That is what she was willing to do to her own children. i do hope they prosecute her.

 

[LinasK]

What did the prosecutors say at the trial in Idaho? Money, Sex and Power. Well after watching Lori today, I think it was sex for Chad and power for Lori. They just needed the money to live that way. You can tell she craves control and she is mean when she doesn’t have it.

Well. Chad cannot have sex with her anymore, not that he would want to.

And they have no money now.

As for power, I am still concerned about Lori having her own little mafia in prison.

I heard she has to serve her time in Idaho first, but I love the thought of her battling it out with Jodi Arias for top dog.

 

[Izzylizzy]

I think TK said today they had not planned to bring in financial interest or address motive. The state was walking a fine line here to avoid evidence and testimony of LVD’s prior convictions since withdrawing their notice to bring in those prior convictions. I think they streamlined their witness list and were just going to give the jury what they absolutely needed to convict and motive is not needed - helpful yet but not required to prove motive. However, as LVD keeps cracking that door open a little wider every so often, the state may start crashing thru like a bull in a china cabinet. That’s why TK said at one side-bar that if that’s how defense is going to play this then she will change up her witnesses and address a financial motive after all. I don’t know how far the door has to be cracked for that to happen but I think LVD is getting close. And if the jury hears how she failed in the attempt to get her own husband’s life insurance when he was murdered and hears how she told others that Melani was going to have enough money to take care of everyone, then they won’t have any trouble believing that she orchestrated the attempt to kill Brandon so she could get her greedy little hands on his life insurance and money too. And if the state brings in her killing her kids and keeping their SS and then her involvement with Tammy’s murder and marrying CD so soon after TD’s death & getting her hands on that insurance money…well no problem with them believing BB’s life insurance and his half of the equity in the home was her motive. Funny thing is, I think the money was only part of her motivation just like it was with each of the other 4 murders.

Thank you so much for updating me.
Zulema P. spoke about Melani's money I believe at CD's trial.
ZP didn't want to move to Idaho with Alex and LD was relentless trying to convince her to move.
She told LD that she'd never be able to get a job there like she has in Arizona and LD told her not to worry because Melanie will support her.
Also I just listened again to the video I posted earlier tonight of Jess, Melani's prior good friend and she said that Melania was a very generous person and one time she gave a family that needed a car her 35,000 SUV, just handed them the title.
LD most likely believed that MB with a million would her cash cow,
imo

 

[Izzylizzy]

Good day all around. Except for Brandon. He makes my heart hurt. Praying he heals after this is over. Law should have forced Melani to go with Brandon when he identified JJ. That is what she was willing to do to her own children. i do hope they prosecute her.

I'm sure BB did a huge exhale when he left the stand.
He waited years for yesterday and today and when he left the stand he sat down next to his wife and gently smiled at her.
Even though I know little about BB I do know that he's a man of strong faith and his being able to remain poised and respectful of the court's system of testifing and doing so in the face of evil was a testament to that faith.

imo

 

[indicolite22]

I just don’t understand this evil creature. Does she really think that she didn’t do these horrible things? Or does she think she did them but they were justified… Because the victims were zombies? And if that is what she really believes, why would she go through this farce of defending herself as if she didn’t do them? Just say, yeah, I did it, but it was just something that had to be done… if she really believes that.It is a puzzle too mind-boggling to try to solve.

She told her followers that bad acts don't count for her because of her exalted status. So entitlement to do whatever benefits her is her general attitude. In this trial she's simply trying to fool the jury into believing that she's a harmless peaceful creature.

 

[indicolite22]

Do I have this right? LD is insinuating that BB was motivated to lie to LE, naming LD, and using his life insurance to suggest MB was after his money, when it actually was just a couple of invisible boys with paintball guns, firing at 68" tall Teslas with paintball balls made of copper but also without containing any paint?

Because that makes sense. (Dripping sarcasm intended)

JMO

I think for a moment she was trying to insinuate that the damage to the Tesla could have been done by a tire iron, so no shooting. Her other route was to blame BB for shooting up his car himself. His supposed motive was to get back at her for breaking up his marriage, which she denies doing.

 

[indicolite22]

I love this. The jury will wonder why the jeep was at Lori’s house with Alex there. Yet, Melanie wasn’t there.

The jury will also wonder why Lori isn't allowed to ask witnesses about her good character.

Has Tylee even been mentioned so far? Is the jury asking themselves why Lori needed two cars for herself in Idaho?

 

[aafromaa]

The jury will also wonder why Lori isn't allowed to ask witnesses about her good character.

Has Tylee even been mentioned so far? Is the jury asking themselves why Lori needed two cars for herself in Idaho?

Well…in fairness there’s nothing wrong with having 2 cars for one person…I do

 

[indicolite22]

Lori spent a lot of the BB's cross trying to insinuate that Melani had proof that BB was gay, so as to say that it wasn't Lori who put the idea into Melani's head. She tried to bring up a certain fb video repeatedly, despite being told to stop several times. IIRC BB responded to one of those attempts, calling the supposed proof silly. I hate it how she was allowed to victimize him again, making claims about his marriage that would make him look like the bad guy who had a motive to retaliate against her.

 

[aafromaa]

I’m glad to know that MBP is still under investigation for the attempt on BB’s life but not sure that they can get a conviction and think if she is tried and not convicted it might be harder on the children than if she is never tried at all. So what evidence you think they can use against her?

I think it is obvious that she is the one that told LVD and/or AC what BB’s new address was but not sure that would be enough as she could say she simply shared it with them not knowing what they were planning.

They could show motive pretty easy with the life insurance and sale of the house but is motive and sharing her estranged husband’s new address enough to convict?

We know she was party to conversations about BB being dark or whatever but is that enough to say she wanted him dead let alone participated in the attempt to murder him? Can’t she just pass that off as being naive and trusting LVD’s spiritual guidance?

She sounded like someone with guilty knowledge in her interview the day after the shooting when she couldn’t remember what she did that morning but I’m not sure that raises to the level of proof.

I’d have a hard time getting past reasonable doubt with what comes to mind that we know about her. But perhaps I’ve forgotten some incriminating info along the way.

Your thoughts?

 

[indicolite22]

I’m glad to know that MBP is still under investigation for the attempt on BB’s life but not sure that they can get a conviction and think if she is tried and not convicted it might be harder on the children than if she is never tried at all. So what evidence you think they can use against her?

I think it is obvious that she is the one that told LVD and/or AC what BB’s new address was but not sure that would be enough as she could say she simply shared it with them not knowing what they were planning.

They could show motive pretty easy with the life insurance and sale of the house but is motive and sharing her estranged husband’s new address enough to convict?

We know she was party to conversations about BB being dark or whatever but is that enough to say she wanted him dead let alone participated in the attempt to murder him? Can’t she just pass that off as being naive and trusting LVD’s spiritual guidance?

She sounded like someone with guilty knowledge in her interview the day after the shooting when she couldn’t remember what she did that morning but I’m not sure that raises to the level of proof.

I’d have a hard time getting past reasonable doubt with what comes to mind that we know about her. But perhaps I’ve forgotten some incriminating info along the way.

Your thoughts?

I have the exact same opinion about MBP's case. It looks like zombies won't make an appearance in this trial, but I can't imagine the cult not being brought up in MBP's, if it ever happens.

 

[bmacmillan1]

I just don’t understand this evil creature. Does she really think that she didn’t do these horrible things? Or does she think she did them but they were justified… Because the victims were zombies? And if that is what she really believes, why would she go through this farce of defending herself as if she didn’t do them? Just say, yeah, I did it, but it was just something that had to be done… if she really believes that.It is a puzzle too mind-boggling to try to solve.

If choosing to defend herself in this trial does anything apart from wasting tax payers money, after the show she put on today, it has exposed to the world the true Lori in all her glory which is shocking.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Justin Lum - Investigative Reporter​

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JUDGMENT: Brandon Boudreaux, ex-husband of Lori Vallow’s niece settled defamation lawsuit against his ex’s (Melani Pawlowski) lawyers for $12M. The defendants had put out press releases w/ nasty allegations regarding Boudreaux during his child custody battle.
BACKGROUND: www.facebook.com/134640763365616/posts/1590940941068917/?d=n

 

[Izzylizzy]

Justin Lum - Investigative Reporter​

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Lawyer who once represented Lori Vallow’s niece is on probation after defamation suit
Remember Garrett Smith? He issued multiple press releases regarding Brandon Boudreaux, the ex-husband of Lori Vallow’s niece Melani Pawlowski during a child custody battle in court. Boudreaux is also the victim of an attempted murder via a shooting in Gilbert outside his home on 10/2/19. Court documents have continuously said he believes Alex Cox (Vallow’s brother) fired at him as he drove into his garage. The investigation is still open despite Cox being dead. Through the legal battle for child custody, Boudreaux shed light on his ex-wife’s alleged ties to Lori Vallow, Chad Daybell, their beliefs and the disappearance of JJ and Tylee. Pawlowski’s lawyers pushed back with press releases making claims about Boudreaux.
I previously reported that Boudreaux filed a defamation suit against Smith, fellow attorney Robert Jarvis and their wives in 2020. The lawsuit was settled to pay out Boudreaux for $12M, although I’m told the case is not wrapped up yet.
Smith was placed on probation by the AZ State Bar in June 2021 for six months and must complete additional legal training. Per online records, there were two aggravating factors — prior discipline and substantial experience in the practice.
Jarvis received an admonition on his record for violating of his duties as a lawyer.
Here are links to past coverage:
www.facebook.com/jlumfox10/posts/defamation-lawsuit-brandon-boudreauxs-attorneys-have-filed-a-complaint-against-h/1590940941068917/
www.facebook.com/jlumfox10/posts/judgment-brandon-boudreaux-ex-husband-of-lori-vallows-niece-settled-defamation-l/1831523330344009/

 

[Curious-A]

During cross , LD asked BB if he took a picture of the car and “bullet hole”. Hmmm… In her opening statements, didn’t she allege the damage could have been caused by a tire iron??? I hope the jury caught that. I hate that she is allowed to try to victimize him again!