GUILTY AZ - Officer Anthony Holly, 24, fatally shot, Glendale, 19 Feb 2007 #3

[josie1986]

rial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m
The jury has left for the day #bryanhulsey

guess i'll catch you all tomorrow,when they hopefully have a verdict

 

[geevee]

Let's hope they're just sleeping on a decision.

 

[geevee]

Jen's Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 2h

Good Morning! The #bryanhulsey jury is back to deliberating at 10:30am MST TODAY. Let's hope for a verdict!

 

[CA Lady]

Jen's Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 3m

Jury is back in the deliberations room #BryanHulsey

 

[geevee]

Hmmm...they came in early, wonder if that means anything?

 

[josie1986]

I hope so. Ooohhhh

 

[geevee]

Possibly not, I checked MCSC twitter to see if they'd started deliberating and saw this from yesterday:

MC Superior Court @courtpio · 18h

State v Bryan Hulsey: The jury has left for the evening. They will return tomorrow at 10am to deliberate.

 

[geevee]

MC Superior Court @courtpio · 20s

The jury has resumed deliberations in State v. #bryanhulsey

 

[josie1986]

I know my logic Is totally flawed here but the way I see it is they decided he is eligible for the DP but yet there are obviously some who can't give him it...why say he can get it then?

If I said someone is eligible for the DP I wouldn't go and then say oh I agreed he could get it but I won't give him it :shrug:

 

[geevee]

I think it's the theory vs. reality thing, some things sounds okay on paper, or seems right until you put that into practice and look at it from a couple different views, like, this guy killed someone, now the state is asking us to kill this guy, the state can't do it without the jury's say-so, and they're the ones who will have blood on their hands as well once it's all over and done with. Could be they never looked at it from that perspective when answering hypothetically that they could give the DP.

Or maybe some realize the person is more likely to die of natural causes in prison than to be executed so why help sign someone's death warrant when it'll happen naturally anyhow? It's not like he's ever getting out of prison. Just typing while thinking, that's all. Hope I haven't offended anyone.

 

[Love Never Fails]

I think it's the theory vs. reality thing, some things sounds okay on paper, or seems right until you put that into practice and look at it from a couple different views, like, this guy killed someone, now the state is asking us to kill this guy, the state can't do it without the jury's say-so, and they're the ones who will have blood on their hands as well once it's all over and done with. Could be they never looked at it from that perspective when answering hypothetically that they could give the DP.

Or maybe some realize the person is more likely to die of natural causes in prison than to be executed so why help sign someone's death warrant when it'll happen naturally anyhow? It's not like he's ever getting out of prison. Just typing while thinking, that's all. Hope I haven't offended anyone.

Not at all offended. Would be very hard to come back and look a person in the eye and say I just signed your death warrant. On the other hand, thinking of Jodi Arias case, it seems juries are getting softer, not willing to put someone to death. I guess I am thinking too far ahead on that one. Some people should really be locked away for LWOP though.

 

[josie1986]

Jen's Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 17s
Jury has gone to lunch #bryanhulsey

 

[geevee]

That's kinda early for lunch, maybe they're just used to not going a full 2 hours in between meals.

 

[rose222]

I'm all for the death penalty in theory and practice but I need to look at it case by case. It is possible that even someone like me could vote for life based on one or more mitigating factors.

Please don't throw rotten tomatoes at me for this. I don't know much about this case. I'm not sure whether I'd vote for death in this case based on the little I've read.

 

[Chelly]

That's kinda early for lunch, maybe they're just used to not going a full 2 hours in between meals.

It's AZ!!!!!!!!

 

[Bernina]

I'm all for the death penalty in theory and practice but I need to look at it case by case. It is possible that even someone like me could vote for life based on one or more mitigating factors.

Please don't throw rotten tomatoes at me for this. I don't know much about this case. I'm not sure whether I'd vote for death in this case based on the little I've read.

I'd have to vote DP.....just because BH made the decision to take a life, of a LEO of all people, instead of facing the consequences of being charged with 1. Prohibited Possessor for the firearm (felony), 2. Possession of Meth (felony), 3. Possession of drug paraphernalia (felony). Probably would have picked up 10 years with a plea.
So, in essence, Anthony Holly's life was worth a lousy 10 years.......shows a total disregard for human life on BH's part.

 

[geevee]

Jen's Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 29s

Sitting outside and was held hostage by the strangest juror ever! God help whatever jury he's on and the people he has to work with! #freak
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Oh good gravy, let's hope that wasn't one of our jurors.

 

[Love Never Fails]

I'd have to vote DP.....just because BH made the decision to take a life, of a LEO of all people, instead of facing the consequences of being charged with 1. Prohibited Possessor for the firearm (felony), 2. Possession of Meth (felony), 3. Possession of drug paraphernalia (felony). Probably would have picked up 10 years with a plea.
So, in essence, Anthony Holly's life was worth a lousy 10 years.......shows a total disregard for human life on BH's part.

Bernina,
I haven't followed this case, except the closings. I just can't compare him to Arias, who was not on drugs, and joyfully slaughtered a human being. Anthony's life meant everything to his family and Bryan was a real loser so he definitely deserves LWOP but I am not sure, based on his attorneys closing argument, that I could give him the DP. I guess you shouldn't compare one case with another. Don't get mad at me.

I sure wouldn't want to be in LE, in this day and time. Lack of respect for authority, law and life. The jurors know far more than I do. I just want them to be okay with their decision, no matter how long it takes. Maybe they went to lunch because they have made their decision already.

 

[rose222]

I'd have to vote DP.....just because BH made the decision to take a life, of a LEO of all people, instead of facing the consequences of being charged with 1. Prohibited Possessor for the firearm (felony), 2. Possession of Meth (felony), 3. Possession of drug paraphernalia (felony). Probably would have picked up 10 years with a plea.
So, in essence, Anthony Holly's life was worth a lousy 10 years.......shows a total disregard for human life on BH's part.

Bernina,
I haven't followed this case, except the closings. I just can't compare him to Arias, who was not on drugs, and joyfully slaughtered a human being. Anthony's life meant everything to his family and Bryan was a real loser so he definitely deserves LWOP but I am not sure, based on his attorneys closing argument, that I could give him the DP. I guess you shouldn't compare one case with another. Don't get mad at me.

I sure wouldn't want to be in LE, in this day and time. Lack of respect for authority, law and life. The jurors know far more than I do. I just want them to be okay with their decision, no matter how long it takes. Maybe they went to lunch because they have made their decision already.

Arias tortured Travis to death. It's the stuff of horror-movies. She shows no remorse but continues to torment Travis' family. Oh dear. I think I too have fallen into the trap of comparing the two cases. I shouldn't do that.

For all the reasons you have outlined, Bernina, Hulsey deserves LWOP at minimum.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Lunch over in AZ yet?