AZ-Pandora Kjolsrud, 18 and Evan Clark, 17-Found shot to death in Maricopa County -May 27, 2025

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A page of of the court documents via Ashley Holden of ABC15:

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I find it interesting that when MCSO retraced Brown’s route last week, they found “multiple” items belonging to the victims.
 
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This case reminds me of another tragedy in Devil's Den State Park, AR.
Senseless murders of the couple on the trail by a stranger.

JMO
 
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Interesting. So their bodies were not found near their vehicle. But the gloves were and Brown’s dna was found in the vehicle. Then the victims’ belongings (what? clothing, phones, a water bottle, who knows?) were presumably removed either from where their bodies were or from the car and discarded near to where he camped. That seems like an awful lot of back and forth to different sites.
 
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Interesting. So their bodies were not found near their vehicle. But the gloves were and Brown’s dna was found in the vehicle. Then the victims’ belongings (what? clothing, phones, a water bottle, who knows?) were presumably removed either from where their bodies were or from the car and discarded near to where he camped. That seems like an awful lot of back and forth to different sites.
According the press conference linked above, LE said TB's wife left their campsite the morning of the 25th, the same morning that the victims arrived.

Later on the 25th, he'd been seen around the area and was described as acting strangely, by another group that arrived later that day.

IMO, once his wife left - and being without internet access - he wouldn't have anything much to do. He apparently flew a drone for a while. Just my speculation, but what if that revealed there wasn't anyone else around except the victims - and he watched them with the drone. And he might just have been one of those guys who'd always fantasized about killing someone - or a couple....

Perhaps, after he'd murdered the victims, he wanted to go through their stuff, see what he'd find, prolonge the experience of violation...

ETA or maybe he was planning to move the victims and/or their vehicle.

But then, what if a new set of campers arrived and saw him, perhaps near the victims car or something? So that might be why he decided to reveal his presence there to LE and act all innocent and helpful. ETA, also, his wife knew he'd been there.

It sounds to me, all the campers left their vehicles on the side of the road and hiked up with their gear to a viewpoint for their actual tent site.

JMO
 
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According the press conference linked above, LE said TB's wife left their campsite the morning of the 25th, the same morning that the victims arrived.

Later on the 25th, he'd been seen around the area and was described as acting strangely, by another group that arrived later that day.

IMO, once his wife left - and being without internet access - he wouldn't have anything much to do. He apparently flew a drone for a while. Just my speculation, but what if that revealed there wasn't anyone else around except the victims - and he watched them with the drone. And he might just have been one of those guys who'd always fantasized about killing someone - or a couple....

Perhaps, after he targetted and killed the victims, he just wanted to go through their stuff, see what he'd find, prolonge the experience of violation...

ETA or maybe he was planning to move the victims and/or their vehicle, but was interrupted

But then what if a new set of campers arrived and saw him, perhaps near the victims car or something? So that might be why he decided to reveal his presence there to LE and act all innocent and helpful. ETA, also, his wife knew he'd been there.

It sounds to me, all the campers left their vehicles on the side of the road and hiked up with their gear to a viewpoint for the actual tent site.

JMO

Did he have an argument with wife?
Is that why she left?

His "behaving strangely" is interesting.
In fact,
he was behaving this way after arrest as was reported (sitting in the cell).
His mugshot looks scary IMO.

He reminds me of another accused I mentioned earlier - the suspect teacher from Devil's Den State Park.
The same empty stare and weird face expression.

🤔

JMO
 
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Did he have an argument with wife?
Is that why she left?

His "behaving strangely" is interesting.
In fact,
he was behaving this way after arrest as was reported (sitting in the cell).
His mugshot looks scary IMO.

He reminds me of another accused I mentioned earlier - the suspect teacher from Devil's Den State Park.
The same empty stare and weird face expression.
I kind of hope that killing people, and getting caught, is a strange experience for perps, that they have trouble behaving normally.

I know that's not how it's portrayed in fiction, but that's what makes it fiction.

JMO
 

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