So because a person is dead through violence and they are absolved of their crimes? Their crimes? First I would need to know for a fact a crime was even committed. I know of zero evidence of the crimes you are alleging. A man beats the heck out of his wife and kids and the wife kills him...but he is absolved of his actions that caused this affect? If there is actually evidence the man beat his wife. Would I believe the wife if there wasn't a bruise on her and no evidence to corroborate her claims. Nope. She would be a woman that murdered her husband. A child should just sit there and take the abuse and not fight back. The one time he did try he was just beat again. Tiffany started monitoring his calls with his mother. His own grandmother knew this was happening and refused to believe it and did nothing. Ask your friend why Vince's father, Leroy, would spit in the face of Tiffany if he ever saw her again. Ask your friend why there are no pictures of Vince and Tiffany in Liz's home. Ask your friend why there are pictures of Vince, Eryn and CR in Liz's home. Sorry, the last two sentences confused me. Ask your friend why there are pictures of Vince's sisters husbands in Liz's home...but none of Tiffany. I think I know why, they love the boy and are willing to believe him. Ask your friend why the only pictures of the Wedding are of Vince, CR and other family members...none of Tiffany. Ask your friend why Vince told his dad he would never have children with Tiffany. I think Tiffany started a pattern of abuse towards CR that Vince did nothing to stop and to keep her happy he 1) allowed it to go on and 2) started beating CR himself. According to who? A boy that was determined to kill his father and an innocent man? The kid didn't shoot Tiffany. If what you said was true, why didn't the kid wait until they were both sleeping? Why kill Tim? I think he's a very bright and manipulative child, smart enough to report any alleged abuse. I think the boy was smart enough to lie and claim he was abused, that's why he lied about the "log" he kept.
Tiffany can sit in her wheelchair the rest of her natural life and wonder just how her life went so bad...you do not beat a child the way she did... Amazing, not a mark on the boy, not a single trip to the ER, not one call ever placed to CPS. I think the boy is playing the victim. Just as he played the hero in one of his versions of what happened. The victim role is one his mother and a few others lap up. sure hope Karma is a bigger bi**h than I am. I cannot wait for the day they bring charges against her...that's what will make me happy. So far there has been nothing in the case that makes me happy, except the fact the I opened my heart to this young family in need and have been changed since. And Yes I do sleep better at night knowing that someday Tiffany will answer to the one above...and yes I have lost many nights of sleep worrying about this little boy and thinking about how torn apart that family is now. Because of the boy's actions.
Vince and Tiffany are just going along their merry way raising this boy, providing this idyllic life for this boy and he just wakes up and decides I'm going to kill my dad...come on... Murder never makes sense to me. I do understand the need for some to makes some sense of it all. Truth is, it doesn't make sense. Other, older children have murdered their parents and ya know what? Those murders didn't make sense to me either. They do it because they are angry and want to do what they want too do. They detest rules. Don't you think maybe they could have taught their son coping skills, some anger management skills. If my 8 year old son told me some of the things people claim "after the fact" that he said, I certainly would have my child in therapy...at a minimum. Are you forgetting his mother basically abandoned him for a long time and just recently breezed back into his life, AFTER THE FACT? Perhaps, he just wanted to be "rescued" from all the normal rules and expectations ...thought the grass would be greener?
This was a perfect storm brewing...child abuse, home alone, loaded weapons available, taught to use them...dysfunctional family...
The problem is this is not a black or white issue...this is not a third world country...we don't give up on our children Who is the "we"? I never said he should be given up on. Quite the contrary. While I personally believe he can't be fixed, even I believe every resource available should be used to try.
Again, stop putting words in my mouth...I never called you bias...
I know what he did, I know why he did it, does it make it right...no way, does the child need help...yes he does...can this child have a normal life...probably not...but I will do my best to make sure he has a good shot at it and so will his mother. Like I said, I respect your opinion, you may even be right. But there's a very strong possibility the boy is lying, manipulating and just maybe you are wrong. When considering the cold heinous way he went about carrying out these murders, it shouldn't be too hard to imagine.
