Baez & Casey's relationship?

[french75]

Who put that pic together and who wrote the words on it?

I would bet they are random pics gotten off the computer and someone did that and now it is being said Casey did it.

Where did the pic come from?

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before, but those are lyrics to a song. I think it's by Saving Jane or something like that.

 

[IrishSweetOne]

OK I admit it , I must be just as twisted cause I've been thinking the same thing . I mean come on I don't know of any lawyer that spends that amount of time at a jail visiting his client . The hours he's visiting through up red flags at first but then when he said he wanted her bailed out so he could have better access to her sent the ball home for me .

I would so like to be wrong about this but I have this weird gut instinct when it comes to reading people . There is definitly an attraction at the very least .

THIS IS JMHO

 

[amethyst221]

I don't draw any conclusions based on how much time he spends visiting his client or when he spends it. You go when it isn't so crowded, or when it fits in your schedule, or when your client needs "managing," or some specific issue, upcoming event, etc. requires it. This is a high profile case for him, she is probably (make that almost certainly) VERY high (What about meeee) maintenance. The daily ups and downs about getting out on bail, then not, the plan for after, etc. could have been a lot to deal with and talk about. They aren't high up on my favorites list, and wish she wasn't getting bailed out, especially if it's getting to her in jail, but I just don't see anything so unusual here -- other than the defendant herself, who is unusual in every way.

 

[manatee]

apparently I've upset some of you. Sorry. This is just the truth as I see it. It is based on my life experiences and that of my friends and relatives... and yes it is only my opinion, of course.

I never said "all men are pigs" either. I would rather say all "men are men." Is it nature or nurture? who knows. Women have the control when it comes to "IT" and they have been socialized to say "no." Men have been socialized by peers to say "YES."

Here is an experiment for all of you that are adamant that men can be faithful and it's about character and not environment. Let's suppose that we could arrange for your man to spend a weekend with a woman he finds extremely attractive (maybe angelina jolie or paris or anyone else he likes). Let's also suppose that this woman finds your spouse equally attractive also. Let's finally contend that there will be NO CAMERAS, or witnesses of what happened. They go to a hotel and stay there for the weekend completely alone. Bottom line: you would never know what really happen in that room, never. How many of you would sign your partners up for this experiment? how many still feel confident that your spouse would turn this person down. Again only he and this woman would know what transpired. any takers?

If you still don't see the problem, IMO, you are blinded by love or simply don't want to believe it. You are telling yourself, if he loves me he would never do it. I think you are kidding yourself and setting yourself up for disappointment. affairs have nothing to do with how much someone loves you.

I've been happily married in and affair free marriage because we follow these simple don'ts:

1) don't have breakfast, lunch, dinner, coffee, snack or anything with a person of the opposite sex alone even it its a coworker. NEVER!
2) don't go on girls night out or boys night out. trouble many times starts here
3) don't have secrets. all passwords, emails, letters and anything else should be fair game to your partner.
4) don't travel without your spouse. EVER! if your job requires you to travel and your spouse cannot come, CHANGE JOBS!!!!
5) don't share relationship issues or problems with the opposite sex. This opens the door for emotional attachment which eventually leads to an affair.


I'm sure many of you are familiar with Dr. Phil. Did you ever wonder why Robin (his wife) is always with him? I'm sure they are familiar with the research in the field of infidelity (dr. richard harley is a good source-see marriage builders)

So anyway. Hopefully this clears up what I'm saying and to bring it back to my original posts....this is why I think Baez's wife (if he has one) is crazy to allow him to spend so much time with Casey. The situation is set for problems to occur. :crazy:

 

[babycat]

apparently I've upset some of you. Sorry. This is just the truth as I see it. It is based on my life experiences and that of my friends and relatives... and yes it is only my opinion, of course.

I never said "all men are pigs" either. I would rather say all "men are men." Is it nature or nurture? who knows. Women have the control when it comes to "IT" and they have been socialized to say "no." Men have been socialized by peers to say "YES."

Here is an experiment for all of you that are adamant that men can be faithful and it's about character and not environment. Let's suppose that we could arrange for your man to spend a weekend with a woman he finds extremely attractive (maybe angelina jolie or paris or anyone else he likes). Let's also suppose that this woman finds your spouse equally attractive also. Let's finally contend that there will be NO CAMERAS, or witnesses of what happened. They go to a hotel and stay there for the weekend completely alone. Bottom line: you would never know what really happen in that room, never. How many of you would sign your partners up for this experiment? how many still feel confident that your spouse would turn this person down. Again only he and this woman would know what transpired. any takers?

If you still don't see the problem, IMO, you are blinded by love or simply don't want to believe it. You are telling yourself, if he loves me he would never do it. I think you are kidding yourself and setting yourself up for disappointment. affairs have nothing to do with how much someone loves you.

I've been happily married in and affair free marriage because we follow these simple don'ts:

1) don't have breakfast, lunch, dinner, coffee, snack or anything with a person of the opposite sex alone even it its a coworker. NEVER!
2) don't go on girls night out or boys night out. trouble many times starts here
3) don't have secrets. all passwords, emails, letters and anything else should be fair game to your partner.
4) don't travel without your spouse. EVER! if your job requires you to travel and your spouse cannot come, CHANGE JOBS!!!!
5) don't share relationship issues or problems with the opposite sex. This opens the door for emotional attachment which eventually leads to an affair.


I'm sure many of you are familiar with Dr. Phil. Did you ever wonder why Robin (his wife) is always with him? I'm sure they are familiar with the research in the field of infidelity (dr. richard harley is a good source-see marriage builders)

I would sign my fiancee up for that experiment, 100%. We have only been together for 7 years, but he works around good looking cocktail waitresses, one on one with many people, and I know he's never cheated. He doesn't have time. He's always here Straight to work, straight home. Conversely, I have many, many close relationships with my male friends. I frequently have lunch with men, one one one. Even with my exboyfriend! My fiancee is always invited, but doesn't always go. My fiancee is secure and has every reason to be. They don't make passes at me, because they respect me, and my relationship. And if they ever did make a pass, I would inform my fiancee immediately, and limit my contact with that person.

If any man ever told me to follow you "rules", i would be out the door in a heartbeat, thinking they had lost it. I am a mover, very independent, and very secure in myself and my relationships. If someone told me to follow those "rules", I would assume that they are insecure, and didn't trust me. I need privacy, and space! Privacy isn't about hiding something, but about personal boundaries.

The only "rule" I agree with is number 5. Also, my spouse and I share passwords, but it was never a rule...we just do it, because we occassionally need in one anothers accounts for stuff. The rest of those "rules", I feel, are unhealthy, and controlling. But each relationship is different, and different things make different people feel secure.


Also, Dr. Phil is not my moral compass. I don't just trust what I see on tv. Not to mention, we have no way of knowing that Dr. Phil has not cheated on his wife, or that his marriage is healthy.


But we are very different people, with different relationships, and everyone has what works for them. That's what is important.

I just hate how this went from Casey/Baez assumptions to, it seems, stereotyping men, and assuming other posters are "naive" just because we don't keep our husbands on lock down, or think men will cheat.

 

[manatee]

I would sign my fiancee up for that experiment, 100%. We have only been together for 7 years, but he works around good looking cocktail waitresses, one on one with many people, and I know he's never cheated. He doesn't have time. He's always here Straight to work, straight home. Conversely, I have many, many close relationships with my male friends. I frequently have lunch with men, one one one. Even with my exboyfriend! My fiancee is always invited, but doesn't always go. My fiancee is secure and has every reason to be. They don't make passes at me, because they respect me, and my relationship. And if they ever did make a pass, I would inform my fiancee immediately, and limit my contact with that person.

If any man ever told me to follow you "rules", i would be out the door in a heartbeat, thinking they had lost it. I am a mover, very independent, and very secure in myself and my relationships. If someone told me to follow those "rules", I would assume that they are insecure, and didn't trust me. I need privacy, and space! Privacy isn't about hiding something, but about personal boundaries.

The only "rule" I agree with is number 5. Also, my spouse and I share passwords, but it was never a rule...we just do it, because we occassionally need in one anothers accounts for stuff. The rest of those "rules", I feel, are unhealthy, and controlling. But each relationship is different, and different things make different people feel secure.


Also, Dr. Phil is not my moral compass. I don't just trust what I see on tv. Not to mention, we have no way of knowing that Dr. Phil has not cheated on his wife, or that his marriage is healthy.


But we are very different people, with different relationships, and everyone has what works for them. That's what is important.

I just hate how this went from Casey/Baez assumptions to, it seems, stereotyping men, and assuming other posters are "naive" just because we don't keep our husbands on lock down, or think men will cheat.

I'm not stereotyping and just realistic. I am very happy in my marriage and I gave you some of my secrets. take it or leave it.
all I'm going to say is "good luck to you." But I know that if I had to bet, I would bet that eventually you will find out I was right. Sorry to say. but I do hope for your sake, that an affair does not happen to you. Seriously. I really do hope so. But I know that the odds are against you. Do some research on the topic and you will see what I mean.
fidelity takes work.

 

[manatee]

I
...f any man ever told me to follow you "rules", i would be out the door in a heartbeat, thinking they had lost it. I am a mover, very independent, and very secure in myself and my relationships. If someone told me to follow those "rules", I would assume that they are insecure, and didn't trust me. I need privacy, and space! Privacy isn't about hiding something, but about personal boundaries.....

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my husband and I both agreed on these rules early on in our marriage. He never "told me." We cared about our relationship. We had both been cheated on previously and were determined that it would not a happen again. We did some research and this is what the experts recommended.

 

[manatee]

....Conversely, I have many, many close relationships with my male friends. I frequently have lunch with men, one one one. Even with my exboyfriend! My fiancee is always invited, but doesn't always go... .

my answer to you is you probably have not felt the attraction. Once you do, all bets are off. Also, you don't know how they would react if YOU came on to them. try it! I guarantee you that you will not be turned down.

I have a long time high school friend who still remains unmarried because she swore that she would never marry a man that would sleep with her easily.She has gone out of her way to come on to men to find the one that will turn her down....no luck yet. She is 43 and still single. Some of the men that I knew would never fall, fallen! Married, engaged, powerful, rich, religious, needeless to say she is never allowed alone with my husband. Does she have problems? yeah, probably. She is getting older so maybe she will be turned down soon but I doubt it.

 

[Sweetchelle]

I think that this type of speculation is disgusting, defamatory and completely unfounded. Regardless of my distaste for Casey or Baez, I think that to make accusatory statements such as these goes completely beyond trashy. There are millions of professional men who do their jobs every day without cheating on their spouses.

Shes entitled to her own opinion!!!!!!!

 

[Kelsy_C]

Although we know Baez is in private practice and is not a "public defender", do we know if he is a special public defender?

--respectfully snipped--

Many private attorneys will still do public defender work on a case by case basis, usually based on the availability of the current public defenders. I work for a private attorney and usually about once a year we get approached by the court to take on a case. Now, I don't know if thats how it works in FL or with Baez but it certainly could be.

 

[manatee]

Shes entitled to her own opinion!!!!!!!

thank you, Sweetchelle!

 

[manatee]

I would sign my fiancee up for that experiment, 100%. We have only been together for 7 years, but he works around good looking cocktail waitresses, one on one with many people, and I know he's never cheated. He doesn't have time. He's always here

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two points. Maybe he has not had an offer? or (not saying it's happening) but many affairs happen during work hours or lunch breaks.
sorry,

 

[Sweetchelle]

thank you, Sweetchelle!

yw I dont think you posting this was trashy! I actually thought the same thing this morning when a reporter said that Baez had said before he went into go get Casey. "im going to get my girl out".
If it was me I would of said "im going to get my client out" or "im going to get casey out" but not "my girl"

 

[manatee]

yw I dont think you posting this was trashy! I actually thought the same thing this morning when a reporter said that Baez had said before he went into go get Casey. "im going to get my girl out".
If it was me I would of said "im going to get my client out" or "im going to get casey out" but not "my girl"

Exactly! this is all I was getting at with my post. I am certain at this point that Baez has been suckered in to Casey's lies....at least for now. He has bought her stuff hook, line and sinker...AND I hope he does not have a wife and that if he does, she better get her butt out there and become her husbands shadow before it's too late. JMHO again.

 

[unravel]

I'm not stereotyping and just realistic. I am very happy in my marriage and I gave you some of my secrets. take it or leave it. [snip] all I'm going to say is "good luck to you." But I know that if I had to bet, I would bet that eventually you will find out I was right.

You are stereotyping. You are not only making statements about men in general, but going beyond that to tell women -whom you don't know- what their husbands -whom you dont' know- would do in a certain situation, based on the fact that they are men.

If you want to bet, you lose. I know people who have been driven to cheat or leave marriages because their partners insisted on the things that work for *you*.

None of that would fly with me. It screams of a complete lack of basic trust, and relationships are built ON trust. If somebody's so unworthy of my trust that I have to step out of the role of partner, and into the role of parent or parole officer [monitoring their friends, accompanying them places, denying them the basic privacy and personal space] because I feel they're bound to cheat, they're not worth my time. My husband tried to pull something like that on me early on in our relationship and I straight up verbally tore him a new #%^#@@ and told him that I was sorry XYZ had happened in his previous relationships, but I'd be damned if I'd live under a microscope or be punished for what someone else had done, that if he felt like I was so unworthy of his trust, we could end it then and there.

 

[manatee]

You are stereotyping. You are not only making statements about men in general, but going beyond that to tell women -whom you don't know- what their husbands -whom you dont' know- would do in a certain situation, based on the fact that they are men.

If you want to bet, you lose. I know people who have been driven to cheat or leave marriages because their partners insisted on the things that work for *you*.

None of that would fly with me. It screams of a complete lack of basic trust, and relationships are built ON trust. If somebody's so unworthy of my trust that I have to step out of the role of partner, and into the role of parent or parole officer [monitoring their friends, accompanying them places, denying them the basic privacy and personal space] because I feel they're bound to cheat, they're not worth my time. My husband tried to pull something like that on me early on in our relationship and I straight up verbally tore him a new #%^#@@ and told him that I was sorry XYZ had happened in his previous relationships, but I'd be damned if I'd live under a microscope or be punished for what someone else had done, that if he felt like I was so unworthy of his trust, we could end it then and there.

good luck to you! really I mean it. the odds are against you. sorry.

 

[websurfer]

Claudine Longet and her case comes to mind......

 

[manatee]

Claudine Longet and her case comes to mind......

please pray tell!!! name rings a bell. some dancer???

 

[JustJax]

please pray tell!!! name rings a bell. some dancer???

I believe she was Andy Williams wife? Also married to a prof. snow skier that was killed?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudine_Longet

 

[OneLostGrl]

yw I dont think you posting this was trashy! I actually thought the same thing this morning when a reporter said that Baez had said before he went into go get Casey. "im going to get my girl out".
If it was me I would of said "im going to get my client out" or "im going to get casey out" but not "my girl"

of course the other explanation could be that Casey is big break, the case he has hoped for his entire career. Because of her and this case, Jose Baez is now a household name. That's a big deal to some lawyers, more exciting than sex even!!