Bankrupt Casey Anthony interviewed by KPHO CBS in Phoenix

[A_News_Junkie]

I worry about #5.

If FCA can claim she has no book deal now or says she has no plans for one in the future and she wouldn't lie about that (oh yea), they could grant her a BK.

Then, she could walk out of court and say wait a month later, and miraculously she can be given a book deal free and clear.

What if she has her different attorneys or advisers secretly working with different publishers to get a book deal which we have suspected all along? Everyone is just waiting on the BK to go through but maybe she hasn't been presented any papers yet to be signed so she supposedly has no idea if a contract would go through or not? What if the book deal is in CA's name?

Or.............. what if KC and CA (or GA or LA, etc...) had a convo with her that when they say, "Now is the time for you to file bankruptcy" she knew the deal was in the bag and since she was 'not yet involved' in brokering the deal - she claim she never discussed it.

Yeah - I don't trust these people for a thwartcake minute. :cupcake::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

 

[ZsaZsa]

I worry about #5.

If FCA can claim she has no book deal now or says she has no plans for one in the future and she wouldn't lie about that (oh yea), they could grant her a BK.

Then, she could walk out of court and say wait a month later, and miraculously she can be given a book deal free and clear.

What if she has her different attorneys or advisers secretly working with different publishers to get a book deal which we have suspected all along? Everyone is just waiting on the BK to go through but maybe she hasn't been presented any papers yet to be signed so she supposedly has no idea if a contract would go through or not? What if the book deal is in CA's name?

This is all just a ploy to avoid her civil suits. After all, her major creditor is Baez for $500K - I mean, is he pressing her for payment, threatening to take the food from her mouth and the roof over her head, her so that she needs to file BK rightaway to protect what assets she has? After Baez comes the court and IRS, in value- I mean, what are they going to take off her if she doesn't do this right now? It's not like they can send in the bailiffs and take all her possessions (!) and get some money that way... I don't know if the court can tell her to delay or can find out her intangible assets ( her biography) but I think they should.

 

[ZsaZsa]

Or.............. what if KC and CA (or GA or LA, etc...) had a convo with her that when they say, "Now is the time for you to file bankruptcy" she knew the deal was in the bag and since she was 'not yet involved' in brokering the deal - she claim she never discussed it.

Yeah - I don't trust these people for a thwartcake minute. :cupcake::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

I'm hoping there's a clause that lets the Judge stipulate if she earns ANY money above and beyond a $10/hr job in the next 5 years it goes to pay off her debts.

 

[ZsaZsa]

I worry about #5.

If FCA can claim she has no book deal now or says she has no plans for one in the future and she wouldn't lie about that (oh yea), they could grant her a BK.

Then, she could walk out of court and say wait a month later, and miraculously she can be given a book deal free and clear.

What if she has her different attorneys or advisers secretly working with different publishers to get a book deal which we have suspected all along? Everyone is just waiting on the BK to go through but maybe she hasn't been presented any papers yet to be signed so she supposedly has no idea if a contract would go through or not? What if the book deal is in CA's name?

What about the $600K plus, that was in the Caylee fund? Will they ask where is that money?

 

[watcher9]

What about the $600K plus, that was in the Caylee fund? Will they ask where is that money?

That money wasn't in her name. How would she ever know what happened to it? (sarcasm here) She may claim her mother gave her $10 or $20 here or there to buy food for the table, so to speak, but that's it.

If the records were ever ever checked on the fund, they would just show that this amount went to this foundation, that amount went to another and another amount to another. Maybe the old Caylee foundation would have received one of the donations from the Caylee Fund (Dr Phil donation) which could then be distributed to other hidden funds or for salaries for the officers (the A's). It would be like peeling off the layers of a big onion and I doubt any official site would go to the trouble. The A's probably had enough expert advice so that all the angles were covered and they are home free on that money.

 

[logicalgirl]

Wait a minute - maybe it's different in the States - but in Canada just because you declare bankruptcy and become a bankruptee (is there such a word?) doesn't mean you are in the free and clear.

You are under the watchful eye of the bankruptcy court/trustee until you receive your discharge. Depending on your filing, that could be months down the road.

So up here, a book deal a month or two later after this meeting wouldn't be hers to keep - she'd have to declare it and the profits would go to her creditors...at least that is my understanding...

 

[heidisams]

That money wasn't in her name. How would she ever know what happened to it? (sarcasm here) She may claim her mother gave her $10 or $20 here or there to buy food for the table, so to speak, but that's it.

If the records were ever ever checked on the fund, they would just show that this amount went to this foundation, that amount went to another and another amount to another. Maybe the old Caylee foundation would have received one of the donations from the Caylee Fund (Dr Phil donation) which could then be distributed to other hidden funds or for salaries for the officers (the A's). It would be like peeling off the layers of a big onion and I doubt any official site would go to the trouble. The A's probably had enough expert advice so that all the angles were covered and they are home free on that money.

BBM

Agreed... This is what upsets me so much about these people. CA claims that the Anthony's always win, and at least in the legal aspect she's right. Our courts seem to keep reinforcing this idea, and I hate that their "above the law" behaviors/actions keep benefiting them... Imo, they need to be put in their place, because every time they get one over on the legal system, the more toxic they become... Fca has never been held accountable for her lies and behaviors. And, in her mind, she's won and her pathological lying is the reason,. Therefore, why should she stop? Her lies are benefiting her, and that's the lesson she, and the A fam, are taking away from all of this. I don't ever think she will be deterred from lying, which is what the punitive portion of our laws is designed to do. And, unless a big, fat message is sent to her, she will continue to exploit the loopholes, I fear, and (legally) I'm afraid she may somehow come out of all this untouched. At least, that's if history repeats itself... I hope I'm wrong... I think my pessimism stems from all the past disappointments and frustrations, and so I'm bracing myself for another...

 

[skbsoccermom]

BBM

Agreed... This is what upsets me so much about these people. CA claims that the Anthony's always win, and at least in the legal aspect she's right. Our courts seem to keep reinforcing this idea, and I hate that their "above the law" behaviors/actions keep benefiting them... Imo, they need to be put in their place, because every time they get one over on the legal system, the more toxic they become... Fca has never been held accountable for her lies and behaviors. And, in her mind, she's won and her pathological lying is the reason,. Therefore, why should she stop? Her lies are benefiting her, and that's the lesson she, and the A fam, are taking away from all of this. I don't ever think she will be deterred from lying, which is what the punitive portion of our laws is designed to do. And, unless a big, fat message is sent to her, she will continue to exploit the loopholes, I fear, and (legally) I'm afraid she may somehow come out of all this untouched. At least, that's if history repeats itself... I hope I'm wrong... I think my pessimism stems from all the past disappointments and frustrations, and so I'm bracing myself for another...

I totally get where you're coming from. She always seems to escape the consequences. I know this ... if she gets her debts wiped clean and the civil suits dismissed, the public will be outraged enough. If anyone offers her a book deal on top of that, the backlash will be HUGE!

 

[ZsaZsa]

Richard Hornsby has uncovered a huge inconsistency.

RichardHornsby@RichardHornsby

FYI @MattMorganESQ @JeffWeinerOS #Casey Anthony executed a 2010 affidavit saying Baez' fee $89K; now $500k?
http://media.trb.com/media/acrobat/2010-07/55220170.pdf

I think they conspired together to boost this number, solely to make her look broker than she really is, for the benefit of the BK court.

 

[watcher9]

Richard Hornsby has uncovered a huge inconsistency.

RichardHornsby@RichardHornsby

FYI @MattMorganESQ @JeffWeinerOS #Casey Anthony executed a 2010 affidavit saying Baez' fee $89K; now $500k?
http://media.trb.com/media/acrobat/2010-07/55220170.pdf

I think they conspired together to boost this number, solely to make her look broker than she really is, for the benefit of the BK court.

Thanks to RH for pulling up the paperwork on her indigency application.
They have the FCA signed documents filed in the court saying that this is all that was paid to JB and no more would be paid in the future. I believe these amounts are the same as the fees purportedly paid out of the $200,000 photo blood money. Now she is claiming JB is owed $500,000 more. A huge inconsistency or plain out lying?

Somewhere I hope they have or can find the book shopping deals and numerous gift donation statements made by her attorneys to the media in time to be presented at the hearing.

I want to see her get nailed to the wall.

 

[LolaMoon08]

The way I see it, Casey and company were able to fool 12 people who never picked up a newspaper or watched the news. 12 people who were so far removed from anything going on in the world that they probably never could fathom someone like Casey Anthony existing. 12 people who, for lack of better words, have serious comprehension problems. Whether it's from their lack of worldly education or just because they were lazy.

Now Casey is going to have to go in front of some very well educated people. People who are used to being lied to. People who have dealt with her type and her families type. I don't think she is going to be able to fool them as easy. The same way her lies didn't work with detectives and the majority of the free thinking world, I don't think her lies are going to work here either.

Great find by Richard Hornsby too. That's a pretty significant find and I don't think the bankruptcy court is going to like that too much. That's about a $411,000.00 lie. She really isn't that bright when you think about it. Also, you know they are going to hold her feet to the fire about these "gifts" too.

I have faith that the system is going to work please and that Casey is not going to have it so easy in this matter.

 

[logicalgirl]

Richard Hornsby has uncovered a huge inconsistency.

RichardHornsby@RichardHornsby

FYI @MattMorganESQ @JeffWeinerOS #Casey Anthony executed a 2010 affidavit saying Baez' fee $89K; now $500k?
http://media.trb.com/media/acrobat/2010-07/55220170.pdf

I think they conspired together to boost this number, solely to make her look broker than she really is, for the benefit of the BK court.

Holy Chit!! And now Matt Morgan knows this??...:waitasec: ....:giggle:

 

[HMSHood]

Richard Hornsby has uncovered a huge inconsistency.

RichardHornsby@RichardHornsby

FYI @MattMorganESQ @JeffWeinerOS #Casey Anthony executed a 2010 affidavit saying Baez' fee $89K; now $500k?
http://media.trb.com/media/acrobat/2010-07/55220170.pdf

I think they conspired together to boost this number, solely to make her look broker than she really is, for the benefit of the BK court.

Casey Anthony lives a life lies stack on top of more lies.

 

[AZlawyer]

Seems to me that news media are trying to say that FCA DOES HAVE book deal offers! And that should be important in the bankruptcy case.

In my view, if FCA is allowed to list "potential" future creditors, even people who have never had ANY contact with her in any way and have never sent her a bill for anything [Conway, NeJame, Lippmann] .... then FCA should also have to list all "potential" future INCOME. The public knows that she has received many many many high-paying book and interview offers. It is common sense that she will eventually take these offers.

If the bankruptcy judge is aware of the intense media interest in anything dealing with Casey Anthony [and agrees with safety concerns], then in the same vein, the judge should be aware that Casey Anthony has a huge "potential" for making large sums of money in the near future, from all of the media attention, and therefore, should not be allowed to play the bankruptcy card now.

http://www.cfnews13.com/content/new...ticles/cfn/2013/3/1/casey_anthony_5_thin.html

Casey Anthony: 5 things to know in the bankruptcy case
By Amanda Evans, Reporter
Last Updated: Friday, March 01, 2013

excerpts:
But legal analyst Mark NeJame says the bankruptcy courts are strict.
"You are under strict scrutiny when you are dealing with a bankruptcy trustee, and a bankruptcy judge," NeJame said. "You don't fool around, so if there has been any, any mis-statements or any 'fudging of numbers' there's going to be hell to pay in front of a bankrutpcy judge."

4. Casey Anthony could go back to jail.
Anthony’s attorney Jose Baez admitted in her murder trial she has a history of lying, but doing so in federal bankruptcy court could land her in jail.
Anthony signed a summary of her schedule when she filed for bankruptcy and listed all of her assets. If a judge determines she was not truthful on this form she could face felony charges.

5. A book deal means no bankruptcy.
Attorneys will question Casey Anthony on her finances and the potential to someday make money. If Casey Anthony has a potential book deal or offer, it could be considered an asset and she would not be allowed to file for bankruptcy. Money made from a book deal or movie would be paid to Anthony’s creditors first. Anthony claims she owes nearly $800,000. If a book deal is made after bankruptcy is granted, Anthony could keep the money.

BBM re: potential future creditors/income.

You cannot list potential future creditors in a BK, and you don't list potential future income either. Casey has not listed potential future creditors--but she has listed (as required) potential CURRENT creditors who have not yet made a demand (i.e., people you might ALREADY owe money to but they haven't figured out yet that they have a claim against you, or haven't yet demanded payment for that claim). She has also IMO listed people who might be pissed off at her for one reason or another just to force them to decide "do I have any claims against Casey Anthony?"

If Casey has a CURRENT book deal or offer, that would be considered a CURRENT asset that would have to be counted. If she has had conversations stopping just short of offers, the intangible asset of the story she is trying to sell might be counted as a current asset. If she has the story, but no apparent offers on the table or hovering near the table , it will not be counted as an asset IMO.

 

[AZlawyer]

Richard Hornsby has uncovered a huge inconsistency.

RichardHornsby@RichardHornsby

FYI @MattMorganESQ @JeffWeinerOS #Casey Anthony executed a 2010 affidavit saying Baez' fee $89K; now $500k?
http://media.trb.com/media/acrobat/2010-07/55220170.pdf

I think they conspired together to boost this number, solely to make her look broker than she really is, for the benefit of the BK court.

Oh, I love this. Hilarious. Thank you RHORNSBY! :floorlaugh:

 

[A_News_Junkie]

Hands Mr. Richard Hornsby a Caylee crown!!!!!!!
:gthanks:

 

[ThinkTank]

Attorney Richard Hornsby has found an inconsistency in Casey Anthony's bankruptcy filing. In 2010 Casey Anthony signed an affidavit, claiming indigency, stating that her attorney Baez fee was $ 89,000 [and "NO OTHER COMPENSATION"...] ... now in the bankruptcy filing she is saying Baez is owed $ 500,000.

Casey Anthony also wrote in her bankruptcy filing that she gave Baez rights to PHOTOS of herself. page 39 - listed under "Other transfers"

And, why is Andrea Lyon listed as a Creditor, when the Indigency affidavit says she was working PRO BONO and received no fees, and only received $ 22,500 and would receive "NO OTHER COMPENSATION".....


Twittter
RichardHornsby@RichardHornsbyFYI @MattMorganESQ @JeffWeinerOS #Casey Anthony executed a 2010 affidavit saying Baez' fee $89K; now $500k?

http://media.trb.com/media/acrobat/2010-07/55220170.pdf

8 page PDF

5. Here, as Ms Lyon appears pro bono ....

8. The Affidavit of Attorney's Fees from Miss Anthony ... indicates that the
$ 22,500 has been paid to Ms Lyon has been used directly to cover
those costs outlined by subsection 29.006 such as transcripts, travel,
and investigation. Ms Lyon has not received any fees. She has been
and continues to appear pro bono


page 8

INDIGENT FOR COSTS AFFIDAVIT OF ATTORNEY'S FEES
[identical afffidavit signed for Ms Lyon stating $ 22,500]

I, Casey Marie Anthony am represented by Jose Baez in the above entitled action. The estimated amount of fees for the attorney named above in this case is
$ 89,454.83 dollars. The fees paid or to be paid to the attorney were or are being paid by: Casey Marie Anthony ...
No other compensation, things of value or funds have been paid or are anticipated to be paid in the future to the attorney in this case from any other person or source. The attorney represents me in other cases as follows:

Case No: 2008-CF-013331-A-0 Fee: $ 0.00

Under penalty of perjury, I declare that I have read the foregoing Indigent for Costs Affidavit of Attorney's Fees and that the facts in it are true.

3-3-10 signed by Casey Anthony

 

[my2sense]

Richard Hornsby has uncovered a huge inconsistency.

RichardHornsby@RichardHornsby

FYI @MattMorganESQ @JeffWeinerOS #Casey Anthony executed a 2010 affidavit saying Baez' fee $89K; now $500k?
http://media.trb.com/media/acrobat/2010-07/55220170.pdf

I think they conspired together to boost this number, solely to make her look broker than she really is, for the benefit of the BK court.

So who's in trouble here? Casey or Jose? Or both?

 

[ZsaZsa]

Richard Hornsby has uncovered a huge inconsistency.

RichardHornsby@RichardHornsby

FYI @MattMorganESQ @JeffWeinerOS #Casey Anthony executed a 2010 affidavit saying Baez' fee $89K; now $500k?
http://media.trb.com/media/acrobat/2010-07/55220170.pdf

I think they conspired together to boost this number, solely to make her look broker than she really is, for the benefit of the BK court.

Now that I have re-read this I should clarify - the last sentence regarding them conspiring, is mine, not RH's.

 

[wonders]

Attorney Richard Hornsby has found an inconsistency in Casey Anthony's bankruptcy filing. In 2010 Casey Anthony signed an affidavit, claiming indigency, stating that her attorney Baez fee was $ 89,000 [and "NO OTHER COMPENSATION"...] ... now in the bankruptcy filing she is saying Baez is owed $ 500,000.

Casey Anthony also wrote in her bankruptcy filing that she gave Baez rights to PHOTOS of herself. page 39 - listed under "Other transfers"

And, why is Andrea Lyon listed as a Creditor, when the Indigency affidavit says she was working PRO BONO and received no fees, and only received $ 22,500 and would receive "NO OTHER COMPENSATION".....


Twittter
RichardHornsby@RichardHornsbyFYI @MattMorganESQ @JeffWeinerOS #Casey Anthony executed a 2010 affidavit saying Baez' fee $89K; now $500k?

http://media.trb.com/media/acrobat/2010-07/55220170.pdf

8 page PDF

5. Here, as Ms Lyon appears pro bono ....

8. The Affidavit of Attorney's Fees from Miss Anthony ... indicates that the
$ 22,500 has been paid to Ms Lyon has been used directly to cover
those costs outlined by subsection 29.006 such as transcripts, travel,
and investigation. Ms Lyon has not received any fees. She has been
and continues to appear pro bono


page 8

INDIGENT FOR COSTS AFFIDAVIT OF ATTORNEY'S FEES
[identical afffidavit signed for Ms Lyon stating $ 22,500]

I, Casey Marie Anthony am represented by Jose Baez in the above entitled action. The estimated amount of fees for the attorney named above in this case is
$ 89,454.83 dollars. The fees paid or to be paid to the attorney were or are being paid by: Casey Marie Anthony ...
No other compensation, things of value or funds have been paid or are anticipated to be paid in the future to the attorney in this case from any other person or source.[/B] The attorney represents me in other cases as follows:

Case No: 2008-CF-013331-A-0 Fee: $ 0.00

Under penalty of perjury, I declare that I have read the foregoing Indigent for Costs Affidavit of Attorney's Fees and that the facts in it are true.

3-3-10 signed by Casey Anthony

What I have enlarged and underlined may be the loop hole that these underhanded people will get away with once again?