Bankrupt Casey Anthony interviewed by KPHO CBS in Phoenix

[krkrjx]

At least in AZ bankruptcy courts, I have never seen any discussion of dischargeability of debts at the meeting of creditors. Those issues are raised later, by motion.

Sorry if I gave the impression that discharge decisions would be made on that day. I was not saying that. The arguments for or against happen during the process, but basically if no creditor raises an issue it is not likely to be considererd as an issue by the court.

ETA: Sorry all, I am being fed info by a friend who has just filed. Her attorney told her that creditors can show up at the first meeting and say what they have to say. Now, she is not really sure what that means, nor am I. But wouldn't that infer that any who show up are doing so for the purposes of dispute? I mean, how many creditors show up and say yes, by all means discharge all that she owes me? If they feel that way they just don't show up at all. Why take the time to show up if you are not going to be heard?

I will now stay out of this thread since I get my info from someone who is getting info from an attorney in the midwest, not Florida. So basically I am repeating second-hand information that is incomplete and also that may not even be relevant to a proceeding in another state (even though bankruptcy is federal).

 

[ThinkTank]

United States Bankruptcy Court
Middle District of Florida
Case 8:13-bk-00922

Twitter:
Matt Morgan ‏@MattMorganESQ
Yesterday, we filed a motion to transfer venue from Tampa to Orlando in #CaseyAnthony 's bankruptcy case. #EqualJustice #Accountability
Feb 6, 2013

Preliminary Hearing will be held Feb 26, 2013 at 9:30am to consider and act upon the Motion to Transfer Case to Another Division, filed by Creditor Zenaida Gonzalez on Feb 2/5/2013.

Zenaida's attorneys want the bankruptcy case transferred to the Orlando Division.

Debtor Casey Anthony listed much of the property as being located at 4937 Hopespring Dr, Orlando, FL. [for the past 180 days], which is part of the Orlando Division of bankruptcy court.

Debtor recently completed serving Probation and the probation location could be within the Tampa Division, but the bankruptcy proceeding still belongs in the Orlando Division. The probation location was not her legal residence.

The Debtor and the assets are located in the Orlando area.
The only connection to Tampa is that her bankruptcy counsel is located there.

The creditors and potential witnesses would be inconvenienced if required to travel to Tampa for hearings, discovery, and the meeting of creditors.

By filing this case in the Tampa Division - the "Debtor was forum shopping".
The Debtor and the assets are located in Orange County. Should have been filed in the Orlando Division. This Court should not permit the Debtor's attempt to forum shop.

Debtor's counsels says it was filed in Tampa only to avoid undue media coverage, and her attorneys do not agree to the transfer to Orlando.

 

[charok]

but yet radar and NE reporting she may do internet to get $$ ...take with a grain of salt but IF this is remotely legit...what will this do to the bankruptcy filing?

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/casey-anthony-wages-sin

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/02/is-broke-casey-anthony-going-to-do-🤬🤬🤬🤬/

 

[AZlawyer]

Sorry if I gave the impression that discharge decisions would be made on that day. I was not saying that. The arguments for or against happen during the process, but basically if no creditor raises an issue it is not likely to be considererd as an issue by the court.

ETA: Sorry all, I am being fed info by a friend who has just filed. Her attorney told her that creditors can show up at the first meeting and say what they have to say. Now, she is not really sure what that means, nor am I. But wouldn't that infer that any who show up are doing so for the purposes of dispute? I mean, how many creditors show up and say yes, by all means discharge all that she owes me? If they feel that way they just don't show up at all. Why take the time to show up if you are not going to be heard?

I will now stay out of this thread since I get my info from someone who is getting info from an attorney in the midwest, not Florida. So basically I am repeating second-hand information that is incomplete and also that may not even be relevant to a proceeding in another state (even though bankruptcy is federal).

You're correct, BK is a federal process, so should be essentially the same from state to state, although specific procedural rules could be in place in one district or another.

In my experience in AZ bankruptcy court, the purpose of the creditors' meeting is for the creditors and the trustee to ask questions of the debtor (Casey) regarding the assets and liabilities listed on the schedules. The subject of whether one debt or another should be discharged is simply not raised. The judge is not even there, so there would be little point in making arguments.

ETA: Most creditors don't even show up for the meeting of creditors. If they have no questions, there is no need for them to show up.

 

[logicalgirl]

You're correct, BK is a federal process, so should be essentially the same from state to state, although specific procedural rules could be in place in one district or another.

In my experience in AZ bankruptcy court, the purpose of the creditors' meeting is for the creditors and the trustee to ask questions of the debtor (Casey) regarding the assets and liabilities listed on the schedules. The subject of whether one debt or another should be discharged is simply not raised. The judge is not even there, so there would be little point in making arguments.

ETA: Most creditors don't even show up for the meeting of creditors. If they have no questions, there is no need for them to show up.

Hi AZLawyer - it is somewhat different in Canada. It's true some of the major creditors such as credit card companies and some banks do not attend the "creditors' meeting for the intial bankruptcy meeting, but any creditor who is unhappy with the bankruptcy does, to both ask questions and declare their intention of objecting in writing. Frequentily those objections are upheld and a discharge is not given until those issues are settled in a separate or regular debtor's court. The debtor must file the court judgement with the Trustee/bankruptcy court to be discharged.

 

[logicalgirl]

but yet radar and NE reporting she may do internet to get $$ ...take with a grain of salt but IF this is remotely legit...what will this do to the bankruptcy filing?

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/casey-anthony-wages-sin

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/02/is-broke-casey-anthony-going-to-do-🤬🤬🤬🤬/

So this is what - three or four stories on radaronline in the last week? What I want to know is not why they are running these stories, but who the contact is who is getting paid for supplying them.

Are these publications FCA's sympathetic friends who are supporting her with "gift cards"?

 

[AZlawyer]

Here is ZG's Motion to Transfer Venue from Tampa to Orlando:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2e60xsys74wqsij/motion%20venue.pdf

 

[bayouland]

Here is ZG's Motion to Transfer Venue from Tampa to Orlando:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2e60xsys74wqsij/motion%20venue.pdf

Thanks for this.

In your opinion what kind of a chance does ZG have to get this moved?

:seeya:

 

[elfie]

Here is ZG's Motion to Transfer Venue from Tampa to Orlando:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2e60xsys74wqsij/motion%20venue.pdf

Thank you, AZlawyer. I certainly hope they are successful in their Motion to Transfer Venue!

I guess if any one person is supplying more than 14K in gift cards they are paying the taxes on the amount above that. Difficult to imagine anyone would supply anything at all. Just waiting for the discharge of her debts so their goose can lay her golden egg.

 

[ZsaZsa]

That's odd. Morgan et al are not shown as her attorneys on that motion..

 

[ThinkTank]

That's odd. Morgan et al are not shown as her attorneys on that motion..

R. Scott Shuker, of Latham, Shuker, Eden & Beaudine filed a Notice of Appearance to be Zenaida's bankruptcy attorney, filed 2/5/2013.

I imagine Morgan and Morgan need to keep their work on the civil case separate from the bankruptcy case.

I would like to know if the other creditors would need to file a similiar Motion to change venue back to Orlando? Or, if they just wait and see what the ruling is on Shuker's Motion? Would the bankruptcy judge be more inclined to agree to move it back to Orlando, if more than one creditor was requesting the change of venue?

Are bankruptcy hearings open to the public?

 

[ZsaZsa]

R. Scott Shuker, of Latham, Shuker, Eden & Beaudine filed a Notice of Appearance to be Zenaida's bankruptcy attorney, filed 2/5/2013.

I imagine Morgan and Morgan need to keep their work on the civil case separate from the bankruptcy case.

I would like to know if the other creditors would need to file a similiar Motion to change venue back to Orlando? Or, if they just wait and see what the ruling is on Shuker's Motion? Would the bankruptcy judge be more inclined to agree to move it back to Orlando, if more than one creditor was requesting the change of venue?

Are bankruptcy hearings open to the public?

Thankyou.
It seems to me that everyone is being inconvenienced by this,other than Casey's attorney. Surely that will count for something?

 

[ohreally]

United States Bankruptcy Court
Middle District of Florida
Case 8:13-bk-00922

Twitter:
Matt Morgan ‏@MattMorganESQ
Yesterday, we filed a motion to transfer venue from Tampa to Orlando in #CaseyAnthony 's bankruptcy case. #EqualJustice #Accountability
Feb 6, 2013

Preliminary Hearing will be held Feb 26, 2013 at 9:30am to consider and act upon the Motion to Transfer Case to Another Division, filed by Creditor Zenaida Gonzalez on Feb 2/5/2013.

Zenaida's attorneys want the bankruptcy case transferred to the Orlando Division.

Debtor Casey Anthony listed much of the property as being located at 4937 Hopespring Dr, Orlando, FL. [for the past 180 days], which is part of the Orlando Division of bankruptcy court.

Debtor recently completed serving Probation and the probation location could be within the Tampa Division, but the bankruptcy proceeding still belongs in the Orlando Division. The probation location was not her legal residence.

The Debtor and the assets are located in the Orlando area.
The only connection to Tampa is that her bankruptcy counsel is located there.

The creditors and potential witnesses would be inconvenienced if required to travel to Tampa for hearings, discovery, and the meeting of creditors.

By filing this case in the Tampa Division - the "Debtor was forum shopping".
The Debtor and the assets are located in Orange County. Should have been filed in the Orlando Division. This Court should not permit the Debtor's attempt to forum shop.

Debtor's counsels says it was filed in Tampa only to avoid undue media coverage, and her attorneys do not agree to the transfer to Orlando.

BBM Does this mean Casey is living in Orange County?

 

[watcher9]

BBM Does this mean Casey is living in Orange County?

Good catch!
Maybe she moved from the condo.

 

[logicalgirl]

BBM Does this mean Casey is living in Orange County?

Hmm - I thought it meant her bankruptcy lawyers lived in Orange County? And she wanted to avoid the media.....:floorlaugh:

Hello radaronline? Guess what - I'm declaring bankruptcy.......:moo:

 

[ohreally]

My understanding is that her bankruptcy lawyers are from Tampa, and that she is the debtor
debtor
n. 1) a person or entity that owes an amount of money or favor to...
IIRC Morgan and Morgan found her tried to serve her, but instead Mason took the papers.
Maybe I am reading it wrong, but what I get from this legal document is that she is and has been living in Orange County.
I was really hoping she was living on the coast, or anywhere else further away. This is getting a little too close to home for me.

 

[LinTX]

In the motion, they quote the rule that states that one should file where most of the assets are located, and where they live. She stated her legal residence as Hope Springs Dr., and it says most of her assets are there. The motion also states she was 'forum shopping' by filing it in Tampa...

 

[AZlawyer]

Thanks for this.

In your opinion what kind of a chance does ZG have to get this moved?

:seeya:

Pretty good.

R. Scott Shuker, of Latham, Shuker, Eden & Beaudine filed a Notice of Appearance to be Zenaida's bankruptcy attorney, filed 2/5/2013.

I imagine Morgan and Morgan need to keep their work on the civil case separate from the bankruptcy case.

I would like to know if the other creditors would need to file a similiar Motion to change venue back to Orlando? Or, if they just wait and see what the ruling is on Shuker's Motion? Would the bankruptcy judge be more inclined to agree to move it back to Orlando, if more than one creditor was requesting the change of venue?

Are bankruptcy hearings open to the public?

Yes, BK hearings are public.

The other creditors could just file a "joinder" to the motion (basically saying "me too" in legalese. ). But I don't think the judge will care much what the "vote" is unless a bunch of creditors actually object to the motion.

Thankyou.
It seems to me that everyone is being inconvenienced by this,other than Casey's attorney. Surely that will count for something?

IMO the judge will focus on Casey's residence and location of assets rather than convenience issues, based on the law he is supposed to follow.

BBM Does this mean Casey is living in Orange County?

No, but she put down the Orange County address (her parents' address) as her last residence. Morgan & Morgan are basically saying, "You can't have it both ways. Either file in Orange County based on the fiction that you live there, or file wherever you actually live, but you'll have to say where that is."

 

[gramcracker]

No, but she put down the Orange County address (her parents' address) as her last residence. Morgan & Morgan are basically saying, "You can't have it both ways. Either file in Orange County based on the fiction that you live there, or file wherever you actually live, but you'll have to say where that is."

:rocker: :slap: :rocker:

 

[ohreally]

Thank you all for explaining to me that it is because she listed her parents house as her address. I sure was stressing wondering just how close she is living to my neighborhood. LOL